Hey everyone! Hope you all had a great weekend. Lots of great things to talk about so let's get started.
Did it seem to you like the blinds went up pretty fast for the 1500nl Day 2 last night? I think the average stack was only 30bb or less at one point.
Those events are designed to get people in and out. That said, the structure in this event isn't that bad in my mind. I think the event really picks up today with some major blind jumps, but it's not really something I'd complain about just as an observer. I'm sure if I was playing I would think differently.
I was prob the best Super Turbo player online before Black Friday. Any events similar at WSOP I could crush??
Werewolf?...No seriously CJ, if you're looking for a really quick turbo-like structure, I'd check out any of non-WSOP daily tournaments that are going on around Vegas. Lots of those events offer little to no play and it's push/shove all the time.
Do you think that Phil H. is going to get his 12th bracelet this year?
I said yes before the WSOP started. I thought he was going to do it the other night...but if you were watching, you saw his body language completely change. His head was out of it and if he isn't still working with Sam Chauhan, maybe he should go back. He emailed me today that there's lots of events left and he's confident. Instead of him getting really down on himself (which we know he does), he seems optimistic, so I'll remain optimistic and say yes.
Hi! I know you probably don't care about the issues with full tilt, but I was wondering if you've spoken to anyone about the issue?
Why would I not care? I do! I've spoken to a number of people and unfortunately, there's no update. There's a major lack of communication, not only with the outside and their players, but internal as well. Still wait and see...
So we get a voucher for food with our buy-ins. Looking to make two meals out of mine. Suggestions??
$10 at the Rio can get you...A slice of pizza (no soda) from the Sports Kitchen place (near the sportsbook) and maybe an oatmeal from Starbucks? That's not ideal. You can even get a burrito from the poker kitchen for $10.
Any chance you could get Kevmath in for one of these chats? I want to see how fast the scrollbar on the right side of the screen can go.
I will get Kev during the main event providing his bosses at Bluff let him do it.
I asked the question about the structure last night because with around 100 ppl left Greg Brooks tweeted that it looked like they wouldn't be seeing any more flops. He had about an average stack. Does the WSOP want to give bracelets out just to whoever runs hottest at the end?
Just revisiting this a second, the play these days also really doesn't depend on number of blinds anymore. At a certain point, and that might be as high as 25-30 blinds, people just start to shove. It might even be more than that. Especially in these low buy-in NLHE events, preflop is basically everything.
Do you think the allure of a bracelet is getting tarnished with such a high number of small buy in tournaments? It seems the 'pros' mock these tourneys as crap shoots...
This sounds like a great Hot Topic for this week...which we've already started to work on. As a preview, I think they are a little bit, but still, there are only ~900 bracelets in the world. It's not like anyone can win one with ease.
Why don't you guys stream more tournaments on ESPN3? A lot of us really want to see the game other than NL Hold Em. I would love to See Omaha or even Limit Hold Em!
We're hoping for more in the future Cory. For this WSOP, until the Players' Championship, you can check out everything on WSOP.com.
AF - Are people still wearing FTP patches?
Depending on the player. Juanda at the final table the other night did not....unless he hid it well below his jacket.
Depending on the player. Juanda at the final table the other night did not....unless he hid it well below his jacket.
Andrew, I play occassionally with friends. I'm interested in playing more regularly at our local casinos. Like everyone I want it to be fun and at the same time rewarding. Any advice you can give a new player about to jump in to the poker world? I'm 34 years old by the way. Thanks.
You can jump in at any age and that's one of the great things about poker. Given your goals, I'd find a game that you are a) comfortable with the limits and b)is still fun. I think determining your bankroll is a start. Don't play in something that will cause you a ton of stress to begin and just like if it were online, work your way up to the bigger games. Don't jump into the fire of a high-limit game while you're still getting used to the casino atmosphere. Good luck!
If Phil held off Juanda would it have been his most impressive bracelet ever, besides winning the Main Event? (Combination of non- Hold em and top pros in the field)
It might have just been given the caliber of this field. There were 126 great players that bought into that event. It is of a discipline that requires a great reading ability and really, is a lot more complex than what it may seem. I think the Hellmuth misconception of him being only a hold 'em player is slightly off and even without the win, I think it went a long way to prove to some people that he's a better all-around player than he's given credit for.
Hellmuth basically admitted he feared Juanda heads-up in that 2-7 Lowball event. It definitely was out of his comfort zone. But he almost got his first non-Hold'em bracelet. I was wondering why he didn't take the Kill Phil route and put as much pressure on Juanda as he could since he basically admitted he didn't think he could outplay him.
Hindsight is 20-20...and do you think Phil read Kill Phil? I think that Juanda just had his number. JJ is an excellent 2-7 player and has a lot more experience than Hellmuth. Juanda showed a couple bluffs to get inside Phil's head and once he did that, he was in great shape to win. To counter, Hellmuth was trying to force Juanda to commit more chips preflop. Juanda's standard opening raise was to 62K at one level while Hellmuth's varied from 75-90K. Hellmuth did try and force the action a bit, but the reserved Juanda only got involved in big pots as sparingly as possible.
What kind of low buy in SNGs WSOP offer. Is backing prevalent since I'm broke as a joke since BF??
Go outside of the WSOP for SNGs. Especially if you're looking for anything < $100. Sorry to hear about your bankroll.
I know that after Black Friday a lot of people worried that online players would "tap the glass " (i.e., alerting people to their bad play) too much at live games. Does that happen a lot at WSOP events, especially the low buy in ones? Is it happening more this year than in past years?
If you were at the table and saw a player make a miserable move...would you really let them know about it until you had all their chips? No...people aren't giving suggestions at the table very often.
Technically, is it permitted for two players in the same WSOP tournament (or any other live tourney for that matter) to sell pieces of themselves to each other? What about if they get wait to do it at the final table, as opposed to doing it before the tourney started? If it is not permitted, then do you suspect that it happens nevertheless?
Sure. That's the bigger and more concerning issue about backing/swapping/etc. IT doesn't need to be disclosed so the opponents are sitting in the dark. I think that's a key spot that the industry in general needs to work on, but I don't a resolution anytime soon.
I could never afford to play on my own, I always had to use my own money to buy things for my gf so she wouldn't leave. Anyhow, is there any interest of backers for live play or was that only for online play?
If you prove yourself and post in the right places, there may be interest for live backing.
Has there been a ton of interest in the NBA Finals and Stanley Cup Finals from the WSOP players? Is there TV's set up throughout the Rio? Most the poker players out there seem to be sports junkies...
The Amazon room usually has a couple tvs spread out across the room. Of course players are interested as many of them have additional financial interests in the game. According to Jess Welman's item on Bluff today: "35 People crowded around the TVs in the Amazon Room during the final minute of the final game of the NBA Championship. That number would have been exponentially higher, but all of the events were on dinner break and the players lurking near the TV had opted for basketball over nourishment."
Does Moneymaker have a future with PS? I know he's actually played well of late, but wasn't most of his lure tied to the memory in American's minds that anyone can turn an online satellite into a WSOP ME championship. With that no longer being possible, is there a need for him in the PS roster?
I think he's going to be one of the few Americans that keeps his patch. He has the global association of a poker superstar and I would think PS getting rid of him wouldn't be the right move. Many people still consider him the face of poker after all these years. Ask a random on the street if they can name a poker player...you'll get Phil Hellmuth, Daniel Negreanu, Phil Ivey and... Chis Moneymaker.
Seriously - what's a man gotta do to win a bracelet these days?
Not run into John Juanda in 2-7? It's not like you didn't have a good chance up 3:1 heads-up, but I think you got a little complacent and off your game really quickly once he won a big pot during heads-up play.
Is ESPN going to have better coverage of the final tables, I find through WSOP.com you can't see much of what is going on, and very boring with no commentary. Thoughts?
We'll have commentary for the $50K Players Championship on ESPN3, then live coverage with hole cards and announcers during Days 3-8 of the main event. I love the WSOP coverage though...it's just as advertised - fly on the wall coverage.
Other than ESPN, who has been providing the best coverage so far this year?
I think PokerNews and Bluff are doing a tremendous job. Bluff's two videos of the day are hands down the best anywhere given their content. I thought Mark did a great job here: http://spartanfox.com/2011/06/13/wsop-coverage-you-have-to-see/, describing the great coverage and I appreciate the shoutout for this at the end. PKRGSSP is also a great source for all the links to all good stories in one place.
Was Juanda the first bracelet winner this year that already had a bracelet?
Crazy, huh? We've had 1 repeat bracelet winner in 17 events. I'd still take >10 overall by the time this year is said and done.
I just heard an ESPN "30 for 30" commercial on ESPN Radio. If there was one Poker story you would have loved for them to do (you help them do) what would it be? Black Friday in 5 years? Moneymaker or Rounders effect? Or something else?
I already pitched the Black Friday one as an extended piece on the network...not going to happen. Seems like it just makes sense. I'd go Moneymaker No. 2 as it would get great ratings and share the huge story and for No. 3, Ivey's 3 wins in one year in 2002.
So who is the NEXT repeat bracelet winner this week?
Mike Sexton in the stud 10K.
Andy Beal 30 for 30!
That's a great one.
If online poker does not "get legalized" in the US, do you think there will be any more new episodes filmed for shows like PAD, Big Game, HSP? What about the National HU Championship on NBC? Would all those be done and gone?
I think the only one that you mentioned that remains next year (pending any legalization or major change in the industry) would be the National Heads-Up. Heartland Poker Tour, btw, is probably going to continue as well. Not sure if that's of interest...
Thanks for all the questions today. See you tomorrow at 4 ET!