Greetings from a very unhappy Halas Hall. Let's get it started and try and figure out where the Bears go from here.
Who's seat is hotter? Martz or Lovie?
Martz. Lovie just signed an extension. Martz did not.
Two yards on nine rushes for Matt Forte. Is it more indicative of the Bears running game and/or strategy, or of the Packers' defense?
You have to give credit to the Packers defense. But the Bears offensive line couldn't do a thing yesterday. It's more on the Bears.
Who exactly scouted Chris Spencer and said, "Yep, he's the guy."??
Is it true that Gabe Carimi might be able to play this week? And when will Lance Louis make his return to the line up?
Louis probably returns to the starting line-up in some form vs. Carolina. Carimi is not expected back for a few weeks.
Steltz is obviously a major liability in coverage. What is it that the Bears' front office sees that the fans don't?
He's a reserve for a reason. Was forced to play because Harris and Wright were inactive. I like Steltz's work ethic and attitude, but he can't cover Jermichael Finley. No way. Blame the front office for drafting him in 2008, but you can't fault the Bears for giving him a shot vs. the Packers.
We saw a Kellen Davis sighting on the weekend. Maybe Martz should release him into more patterns instead of asking him to play LT, what do you think?
How about this, Marcus. How about if Kellen Davis starts to block. They got rid of Greg Olsen because he was a pass catcher and not a blocker. If they wanted their tight ends to be a threat in the passing game, they should've kept Olsen. Now, I agree with you that asking Davis to block a DE one on one is a bad idea. But if that's what you're asked to do, I guess you have to do it. I'm not ripping Davis (he had a great TD yesterday), but if the plan now is to turn him into a weapon in the passing game, why did they trade Greg Olsen in the first place??!!!
Jerry Angelo said no team has improved the o-line more than the Bears yet they are on pace to lead the NFL in sacks allowed for a 2nd straight year. Angelo said he's confident in our WRs yet an undrafted FA rookie seems to be Cutler's favorite/most reliable target. When will the Bears front office stop lying to us and treating us like we're idiots?
That will probably never happen. It happens all the time in the NFL, not just in Chicago.
How is it the Bears special teams always are inventive and so strongly executed in play but the offense always looks like a mess? Is Dave Toub that good of a coach?
Dave Toub is an excellent coach. But it also doesn't hurt to have the greatest return man in history (Devin Hester), one of the most accurate kickers in history (Robbie Gould) and the greatest long snapper in team history (Patrick Mannelly). It's a group effort on special teams.
How much longer before Martz is gone? His play calling is going to continue to lose games & possibly get Cutler hurt. The Bears shouldn't be having the same issues as last season. There's a reason Martz has been run out of every town he's coached in. And Angelo is just as responsible due to the talent he's signed and/or let go.
If the offense continues to sputter, Martz will be gone at the end of the season. Martz is a hardcore FOL (friend of Lovie), so it would come as a surprise if the Bears made a change during the season. I've seen this before with Orlando Pace, Adam Archuleta, etc. Lovie quietly lets them go right after the season.
Play calling remained pass heavy considering Martz suggested a more balance offense. Is this a product of obviously poor O-Line performance or are the Bears moving towards a pas first mentality?
Martz always has a pass first mentality. But I struggle to go crazy about the balance last week because the Bears simply could not run the ball. There wasn't the 40 plus yard run by Forte that we saw in NO. Then they fell behind....the whole thing is a mess.
Why can't Roy Williams ever get open?
He said after the game his groin was still sore. I've yet to see Roy go full-speed since he got here.
JD..I usually keep it level and avoid the "Fire !" noise. But Angelo has butchered the draft and free agency (mostly) for ten years. Isn't it time to move on? This team is a year away from a Bengals-esque run of four or five seasons.
It's the draft I have the real issue with. Great teams that win year after year all have one thing in common: they draft well. The Bears 2011 2nd round pick Stephen Paea can't even dress on Sunday. The 2010 third round pick Major Wright is turning out to be a huge disappointment. The 2010 fourth round pick Corey Wootton practiced all week, yet was inactive vs. Green Bay. The 2010 5th round pick Joshua Moore was cut. The Bears top two picks from 2009 (Jarron Gilbert and Juaquin Iglesias) are gone. Chris Williams had a terrible game at LG. Marcus Harrison got cut. The six top picks from 2007 are no longer with the team (Olsen, Bazuin, Wolfe, Okwo, Beekman, Payne). Do I need to continue. That is why the Bears have only had one playoff berth since 2006. They don't draft well.
Why did the Bears keep Tim Jenning on Finley the whole game? It was an obvious mismatch that the Packers took full advantage on.
Charles Tillman eventually guarded Finley, but it was too late. The Packers exposed a flaw in the Bears defensive game plan.
Thank you everybody. I now turn it over to my guy Michael Wright. Talk to you next week.
Hello folks, I've got the next 30 minutes. Let's keep it rolling.
Would it be prudent for the Bears to tank the season? Before you laugh here is my reasoning: Vontaze Birfect (ASU) could be the next great Chicago linebacker...He could tutor under Urlacher...The Bears will not make the playoffs this year, so why not go for the pick to set up the future...NEWSFLASH!!! Detroit is for real and we (The Bears) are old and wasting too much time on promise...
Really? We're three games into the season and you're bringing up the thought of tanking the season? It's way too early for that. Yes, Detroit is for real. But so what? The team's hopes for the playoffs aren't lost. There's too much football left to play to even be thinking along those lines.
Jump ahead two years and 4-5 months, after the 2013 season. Would Jay Cutler resign with the Bears? Why would he? Angelo made a great deal in getting him but has done hardly anything since to help the offense. Winning the division last year was the worst thing to happen to the Bears because it bought more time for Jerry and Lovie.
On the other hand, you have to ask would the Bears want to re-sign Cutler? Let's be real: he's 19-16 as a starter. He's thrown 55 touchdowns and 45 interceptions, and the Bears traded two first rounders and have paid him around $23 million over the last two years. It's nonsense that supposedly Cutler needs all these weapons to play better. Elite quarterbacks make due with what they have, and the Bears are paying Cutler elite-money. I agree that Cutler doesn't have the best weapons and the offensive line has been shoddy. But he's been given somewhat of a pass in this town after all the drama from the NFC Championship, and I'm not sure I understand why. He needs to be held accountable, too. He threw quite a few bad balls against the Packers and on several of those throws, he had sufficient time.
What's going on with Corey Wootton? He sustained an injury at the beginning of preseason and we were told he'd be out 3-4 weeks with a possible return for the start of the season. It's been 6 weeks, and still no sighting. Where has the "Destroyer of Favre's Career" gone?
I think Corey will be back in the next couple of weeks. You've got to remember that he underwent arthroscopic surgery. We like to throw general recovery times out there as journalists, but each individual person is different. And this appears to be what's going on with Wootton. Wootton didn't even get back to practicing fully until the week of the Atlanta game. I think by now he's about ready to go.
I agree with you on Cutler needing to accept some of the accountability but I believe with Martz in charge of the offense he's always going to have an excuse.
Adam, I agree with you on that. Martz isn't the tough-love type, so Cutler will continue to be coddled in my opinion. That's not good.
In your opinion is there a rift forming with members of the offensive and even possibly coaches such as Mike Tice with Mike Martz? I feel like guys are sick of all the schemes.
Jon, I wouldn't call it a full-blown "rift". Right now, things are being said out of frustration, and it's totally understandable. After all, the Bears are 1-2. There's quite a bit of frustration from several folks about the way these last two games have been called. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Mike how about Mike tice as an offensive coordinator? or do OL coaches not translate well into that position.
Mike, Mike Tice would do just fine as an offensive coordinator. When he was in Jacksonville, Tice played a huge role in putting together some of the Jaguars rushing schemes with Maurice Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor. If Tice were the offensive coordinator, I'd say the team would be playing more of what you guys probably consider "Bears football."
Is it true that Cutler isn't allowed to audible at the line if he sees something in the defense that would warrant a play change?
It's true. Supposedly the system allows for enough options that a quarterback would never have to audible.
So you're OK to let Cutler walk. I agree he isn't an elite QB but there are very few elite QBs. Rodgers is an elite QB but I would be interested in seeing how well he'd do on the Bears right now. Maybe the O-line would block better for Rodgers? Maybe the receivers wouldn't drop Rodger's passes? Maybe Rodger's could heal Roy Williams groin?
Not saying it's OK to let him walk. But based on the way it's gone so far, are you telling me the Bears couldn't get similar production (maybe even better) out of a cheaper/lesser-known quarterback? Just saying.
Is there a reason we don't see Corey Graham playing in the secondary? Did he not resign with the Bears because of a "promise" he would do so?
He's been sort of type-cast into that role as a special team player, and he definitely was reluctant to re-sign with the Bears. Did you notice that when he came back, he signed just a 1-year deal?
As much as Martz is a fun punching bag, isnt a lot of the loss on the players? The wildcat play could have thrown the Pack if Hester doesn't false start, the last drives were killed by penalties which put the team at first or second and long and cutler taking the sack instead of throwing it away, not to say Martz isnt at fault
No doubt, Jeremiah. How many passes did Martz drop? How many bad throws did Martz make? How many times did Martz false start, or hold someone? At some point the players have to execute the game plan.
Mike - can Lovie get the team re-focused on winning and making plays when needed?
No doubt. If anybody can, it's Lovie. The players will run through a brick wall for Lovie because he commands that much respect among the team. He's gonna have to straighten things out among his staff (namely Mike Martz) first though. This team has a good habit of developing amnesia after a bad game, and coming back much stronger.
Michael.... do you watch Breaking Bad? Put a pair of glasses on you, and you'd be a dead ringer for Gus Fring.
Gus must be one handsome dude.
Michael.... do you watch Breaking Bad? Put a pair of glasses on you, and you'd be a dead ringer for Gus Fring.
I don't. Gus must be one handsome dude.
Cutler is already in the Top-10 in Bears history for passing yards, TDs and QB rating. That is in only two years and 3 games. He may reach top-5 by the end of the year. If it is so "easy" to get similar production, why haven't the Bears been able to do that in the history of the franchise?
How many points have the Bears averaged with Cutler as the quarterback? I'll hang up and wait.
How does Randy moss sound to you? I think jay has put up good numbers this year and played a good game yesterday what was the number of drops yesterday?
Randy sounds old and expensive. I'm not quite sure just yet on the drops. Haven't had time to tally them up just yet. There were a few of them though.
Has it ever crossed Jerry Angelo's mind that cutler is not an elite QB and that he needs better WR's in order to succeed. Why has the WR issue never been addressed? And is Jerry Angelo on the hot seat?
Dean, I don't think anyone is comfortable with what's gone on out here. And I also think everyone on the personnel side will be held accountable if this continues. The receivers weren't addressed because the Bears thought they could succeed with what they have. Obviously, that doesn't seem to be the case.
I think Martz has to realize that he doesnt have an Isaac Bruce, or Torry Holt,,or even Marshall Faulk,,oh wait,,Kurt Warner is not available either. Don't u think that Martz needs to plan a scheme with the talent available?
I think so, David. You're absolutely right. Martz needs to cater things to the talent on the roster.
I give up. You're right Michael. Dump Cutler, keep the O-line, Martz, Jerry, the receivers, and everyone else. The Bears should easily be able to find someone to lead the league in times sacked. Let Jerry concentrate on signing more no-talent former 1st round picks.
I never said to dump Cutler. I simply asked why at the end of his deal would you devote so much to trying to retain him when his body of work so far hasn't justified the picks given up or the money spent to acquire him. I could sugarcoat it and blame everyone else, but Cutler. But I'm giving you my honest opinion that he deserves plenty of blame in this, too. When Cutler was in Denver, the Broncos weren't exactly setting the world on fire. But that's probably because of bad play calling, a horrible offensive line, and butterfinger receivers.
What's the status on Forte's extension? Would it be fair to say he should recieve Gore type money?
There hasn't been any movement that I know of. To answer your second question, I'd say yes; probably more, actually.
Cade Mcnoun, Shane Matthews,Chad Hutchinson, things could be worse. I'm happy with Cutler lets have a good qb retire a bear!
Yeah, it's been pretty ugly in this town in terms of quarterbacks. So I understand why everyone is so thankful to have a guy like Cutler.
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