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October 21, 12:00 PM ET
Chat with Dan Rafael

Dan Rafael
  (12:01 PM)

Greetings Fight Freaks and welcome to the Friday boxing chat. I'm headed to NYC tomorrow to cover the Donaire-Narvaez fight, so we can discuss that. And there is a Donaire feature and monster notebook that should be posted shortly, not to mention all the news stories that are posted -- including the updates on the Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson situation. So check the schedule and let's get to it.

Mike S. (San Antonio)

What up Dan, call me crazy but Angulo-Kirkland is my most anticipated fight

Dan Rafael
  (12:01 PM)

That should be a very good action fight for as long as it lasts. I like it a lot too.

paul (austin,mass)

yo danny whose supposed to fight on the december 31st card on showtime? anybody good?

Dan Rafael
  (12:02 PM)

There are several fights being pitched to the network, which I go over in today's notebook. But some are Pirog-Geale, Ramos-Rigondeaux and Shumenov-Erdei.

Juan (Riverside)

When you chatted with Robert Guerrero did he mention anyone he is interested in fighting when he comes back?

Dan Rafael
  (12:03 PM)

No, he was just looking forward to getting healthy and making sure his shoulder is OK. But he has said many times he wanted to fight the best opponents at 140 and maybe at some point at 147.

Juan (Riverside)

Will you like to see a rematch between Dawson and Hopkins?

Dan Rafael
  (12:03 PM)

Absolutely not.

Juan (Riverside)

Who would win against mathysse vs. Maidana in your opinion?

Dan Rafael
  (12:03 PM)

Great fight. Flip a coin. Whoever lands.

Brian (DC)

Hershman isn't "officially" starting at HBO until January, but should we assume that he will be unofficially involved in all the major decisions HBO makes over the next few months in setting up fights for early 2012?

Dan Rafael
  (12:04 PM)

I dont know if you can assume anything. There are legal ramification to his do not compete clause that prevents him from starting immediately. Now that does not mean he can't sit in his house and think about things, write things out, make plans. But I do not believe he would be permitted to have any contact with his future employees or make any specific decisions until he starts.

Mike (Homer Glen, IL)

Hey Dan. Where do you see Adamek's career going now that we know he's in a different class than Wlad or Vitali? Do you see him doing fan friendly fights in the Northeast or working his way back to another title shot?

Dan Rafael
  (12:05 PM)

I think he can accomplish both by doing just what you suggested.

Bobby (Louisville)

Any movement on that Berto-Bailey fight? seems like a good one

Dan Rafael
  (12:05 PM)

Nothing at this point.

Steve (Hartford)

IIs there an exact # off ppv buys for Hopkins/Dawson?

Dan Rafael
  (12:05 PM)

Not yet, too soon, but the numbers are horrible, as Schaefer admitted. No shock. But he was not at risk. This was all HBO.

Bobby (Louisville)

There was some talk about a DEMARCO-MORALES fight, is that realistic? would be a great one

Dan Rafael
  (12:06 PM)

That's a fight Morales as said he is interested in. I think we'll see a DeMarco-Linares rematch first and then if DeMarco wins we could certainly see him with Morales.

Devon (North Carolina)

Hey Dan, there are rumors circulating around boxing websites that Mayweather-Martinez is in the works. heard anything about this?

Dan Rafael
  (12:06 PM)

BS.

Bobby (Louisville)

Hey Dan! I tend to like that Cloud-Erdie fight. Do you think it gets done for Dec. 31?

Dan Rafael
  (12:06 PM)

That fight is not being discussed for Dec. 31.

MacDaddy (Philly)

Hey Josh Hamil-Dan, you travelling or will we get RAD this weekend?Who do you have winning?

Dan Rafael
  (12:07 PM)

No RAD. I will be in NYC covering the fight.

Martin (NYC)

Is the Ivan Caleron fight on 10/29 on integrated ppv? That card fell apart pretty bad. Quintana is now out as is rayito garcia.

Dan Rafael
  (12:07 PM)

No, not on US PPV.

R! (Bay Area)

Will Concepcion vs Marquez II be on Top Rank Live next week? Or are we getting a mismatch featuring never will be Vanes Martuhfasduierfhiuah?

Dan Rafael
  (12:07 PM)

No, it is not on TR Live, the Vanes card is.

Paul B (NY, NY)

Sounds like a good conversation with Too Sharp! How about Too Sharp vs Donaire?

Dan Rafael
  (12:07 PM)

Terrific matchup!!!!

Bobby (Louisville)

Do you think Hershman will bring back the HBO "COUNTDOWN" shows?? those were amazing

Dan Rafael
  (12:08 PM)

I have no idea. Ken will have a lot of decisions to make, but he is not talking about them just yet.

Mike (Los Angeles)

What up Dan! Did you have any doubt in the Hopkins ruling?

Dan Rafael
  (12:09 PM)

What the WBC did does not surprise me. And I expect the Cali commission to overturn the result as well when they meet in a few weeks.

Tom (Sacramento)

I rewatched Linares vs Demarco last night. I know it was a LOT of blood but do you REALLY think it was a good stoppage? Linares was still connecting and staggered a bit.

Dan Rafael
  (12:10 PM)

Absolutely a perfect stoppage. Linares was DONE. He didn't complain at all. And then when he sat on his stool and leaned over blood was pouring out of his various cuts. Just because he was ahead means nothing. DeMarco rightfully got the stoppage. Period.

crispanic (chantilly, va)

whats the hold up with tickets for the Khan-Peterson fight?

Dan Rafael
  (12:10 PM)

There is no holdup. They go on sale next week.

The Met (T.O.)

Guys, let's be realistic. Chad Dawson doesn't need a belt. After all, he has all those fans, right?

Dan Rafael
  (12:11 PM)

PAY THE MAN SHIRLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike (Los Angeles)

Your thoughts on the Donaire-Navarrez fight? Do you see it competitive, or do you see another Donaire blow out?

Dan Rafael
  (12:12 PM)

I think Narvaez is a durable tough and talented guy who deserves respect for everything he has accomplished. I think though that he is going to be too small and slow and Donaire will wind up pounding on him. Can he stop him? I'm not sure he will but it would not surprise me. But I do not think this is a 1-round fight. But I do think it's going to be an eventual Donaire domination.

rich (cape cod)

Dan, Can someone please do an intervention on RJJ to force him to retire? This is beyond sad and depressing news. Roy, you were Great but you are Finished! Give it up.

Dan Rafael
  (12:13 PM)

It is sad.

Bobby (Louisville)

Is the Bute-Johnson winner a realistic option for Hopkin's next fight? (especially if it's Bute)

Dan Rafael
  (12:13 PM)

I think so.

Matt (LA)

I'm no BHop fan, but I was shocked at all the legitimate boxing folks who believed he was faking. BHop can be arrogant and be a manipulator, but whimp out on a fight. No way. Agree?

Dan Rafael
  (12:14 PM)

I dont care what anyone says. He was not faking in my opinion. I was in his hotel suite an hour or so after he got back from the hospital. I looked at his shoulder and it looked messed up just from the naked eye. I also read his medical report and tweeted photos of it. The man was not faking at all.

hectorconga (nyc)

For Chad Dawson to say he feels like a champ and feeling that he actually won that fight against a boxing Legend...makes me question how much he really cares about the sport...

Dan Rafael
  (12:15 PM)

I think that was bravado.

Bk don (Brooklyn)

Can you please explain what Alexander has done to warrant a #1 rating at welterweight by the WBC, despite never having fought in that division, and having lost his WBC 140lb title via clear decision?

Dan Rafael
  (12:15 PM)

He has done nothing to be No. 1 in the WBC, but that is the wretched WBC for you.

Mike (Chicago)

Shouldn't the Hopkins-Dawson fight have gone down as a no contest? I thought Mexico was the only jurisdiction that used technical draws.

Dan Rafael
  (12:16 PM)

WBC is based in Mexico, first of all. And, yes, most folks I have talked to, as well as my own opinion, believe it should have been a no contest. For sure.

Nell (Minnesota)

Does Roy Jones have financial issues to be still fighting, he has nothing left to prove

Dan Rafael
  (12:16 PM)

Yes, he has a crazy tax burden.

Duff (Boston, MA)

Demarco-Linares Round 11 is ROTY so far or at very least on the short list for that award.

Dan Rafael
  (12:17 PM)

Im not sure it is round of the year but it is on the list most definitely.

Dan Rafael
  (12:17 PM)

Im not sure it is round of the year but it is on the list most definitely.

Martin (NYC)

over/under - donaire card sells more then 1,500 tix at the theatre at msg?

Dan Rafael
  (12:17 PM)

Over. According to Top Rank's Todd duBoef they have already sold well in excess of 1,500 tickets.

JoJo (Thousand Oaks, CA)

Is HBO going to air the Mikey Garcia fight prior to Donaire?

Dan Rafael
  (12:18 PM)

No, but they might show hilis.

Ricardo (LA)

Is Chavez Jr. training with Roach and Ariza at Wild Card?

Dan Rafael
  (12:18 PM)

Yes.

Tom (Akron)

Dan, great job in promoting Hopkins to get his title back following his flop. It?s writers like you that have allowed him to get away with his tactics for so long.

Dan Rafael
  (12:19 PM)

Yeah like the WBC is going to listen to me. You are an absolute moron.

Brian (Jersey)

Dan, to clarify, unlike the WBC which ruled a technical DRAW, doesn?t the CSAC have to rule either a Hopkins DQ win or a No Contest, which is different than a draw?

Dan Rafael
  (12:21 PM)

The WBC's ruling of a tech draw is symbolic. What counted was they gave the title back to Hopkins. The OFFICIAL result can only be rendered by the Cali commission, which then will forward it to Fight Fax, the OFFICIAL boxing record keeper. So at the moment, Hopkins still has a TKO loss on his record and Dawson still has a TKO win. The Cali commission could leave that result in place, it could rule a no contest or it could rule Hopkins DQ winner. I tend to think it will make the fight a no contest. Whatever the commission does, that is the decision that will go on the fighters' OFFICIAL records -- as in the records I would write in a story, for example.

Sam (London)

Any idea who Kell Brook will be fighting on the Froch-Ward undercard?

Dan Rafael
  (12:21 PM)

No. And, as far as I know, he has not officially been added to that card yet.

Maths Exam (School)

Number of Chad Dawson fans = Number of Ricky HattonsWhat is the answer?

Dan Rafael
  (12:22 PM)

I'm not good with math.

Jim (Santa Monica)

I understand why people don't let Dawson speak... In his post-fight interview he came off really really poorly in my opinion.

Dan Rafael
  (12:22 PM)

What are you talking about? He was on SportsCenter last night for an extended interview.

Chico (Santa Fe)

Dan, I respect you as a writer, but I do not understand why you defend Hopkins as much as you do.

Dan Rafael
  (12:23 PM)

I call it like I see it whether you think so or not.

Steve (NYC)

Is Mitchell- Witherspoon a done deal for HBO?

Dan Rafael
  (12:23 PM)

Nope. Likely will be Mitchell-Timur Ibragimov.

Joe (Santa Monica)

To the judge who scored Holt/Garcia for Holt: If the boxer you picked to win the fight says he clearly lost, maybe it is time to look for a new profession.

Dan Rafael
  (12:24 PM)

That was Wayne Hedgepeth and it was a horrific scorecard. Even Holt said he lost. Hedgepeth has been a good referee but he leaves a lot to be desired as a judge. Bad, bad, bad card, which has been overshadowed by the controversy of the main event.

Danny (Miami)

Still no PPV numbers for the Mayweather vs Ortiz fight?I hearing 800,000 -900,000 which is still good.

Dan Rafael
  (12:25 PM)

I suggest you read my blog from yesterday.

John (Phoenix)

Dan, didnt Hopkins have issues with you in the past? Can Banishment come out and eat some of these Chad Dawson apologists that are simply trying to get him an unearned title?

Dan Rafael
  (12:27 PM)

Bernard once went four years refusing to speak to me because he was so pissed off about something I wrote. But most idiots who think I am carrying BHop's water do not know our long and often poor history together. But, of course, because I say what I think, I must somehow be just shilling for him this week. That's cool because most of the dopes that drink the Kool Aid have no idea what they are talking about.

Steve (NYC)

Would a trippleheader card featuring a Dawson fight, a Bradley fight and a Berto fight even draw 1,500 fans?

Dan Rafael
  (12:27 PM)

Why so many?

Steve (NYC)

IS Sultan Ibragimov still fighting

Dan Rafael
  (12:28 PM)

No, he is long retired.

Jeff (NY, NY)

Dan,what are your thoughts on Oscar calling you out for poor journalism regarding his comeback?

Dan Rafael
  (12:32 PM)

I simply quoted Oscar from his own tweets and his partner Richard Schaefer and then wrote my opinion. If Oscar doesn't like it, that's on him and I couldn't care less.

Sam (Santa Monica)

Wonjongkam successfully defended his belt this morning with a wide UD, in an ideal world where he steps away from Thailand frequently, who would you like to see him fight?

Dan Rafael
  (12:33 PM)

Actually, Sosa was a fight I was interested in.

Sim ((UK))

Dan, what did you make of Tony Bellew's performance last weekend? A lot of people didn't think he could challenge Cleverly but it was a very close (and great) fight

Dan Rafael
  (12:33 PM)

I thought Tony showed a lot of heart and grit and he fought a lot better than I thought he would and I give him full credit for it. Was a great fight from both guys.

Eric Omaha [via mobile]

Dan - Is HBO going to show the first two Pacquiao-JMM fights before their third fight?

Dan Rafael
  (12:34 PM)

I would imagine they will replay those, but I have not heard that officially.

The Met (T.O.)

It's funny how Oscar keeps proclaiming you have a vendetta against him. When, technically speaking, if we go by printed word, it's fairly clear that he is the one with the vendetta.

Dan Rafael
  (12:34 PM)

True. I have nothing against Oscar.

David haye (U.K.)

I am still retired. Does anybody care yet?

Dan Rafael
  (12:35 PM)

How's your toe my man?

Tom E (Lambertville, NJ)

I thought the best comment of the broadcast last week was Max noting that somehow Linares always seems to wind up less than the sum of his parts. Very astute observation.

Dan Rafael
  (12:35 PM)

100 percent agree and I actually mentioned that exact quote to Max as being dead on when we spoke on Monday or Tuesday about the show.

Brian (Montreal)

i heard talks of pirog vs david lemieux, your thoughts ??

Dan Rafael
  (12:35 PM)

Lemieux side turned it down.

James (Windsor)

If you and Bhop have such a bad history why were you in his Hotel Suite.

Dan Rafael
  (12:36 PM)

We get along fine these days. I went to his room to talk to him about the fight -- he didnt come to the postfight press conference because he went to the hospital.

Matt (LA)

Would you be interested in Demarco/Linares 2?

Dan Rafael
  (12:37 PM)

Sure, although I think if it happens, let them just make the fight. I do not think it should be MANDATED.

Courtney (Atlanta)

Dan, I've prayed for Atlanta to have a boxing card for the longest, and it's been answered with Roy Jones fighting here. Did I do something wrong?

Dan Rafael
  (12:37 PM)

Be careful what you wish for.

Chris (Los Angeles, CA)

Wait. I thought you were a Top Rank Shill yet you're saying B-Hop was not faking?

Dan Rafael
  (12:38 PM)

Welcome to my world.

Brooks (New Hampshire)

Danno - Anything in the works for Darchinyan?

Dan Rafael
  (12:38 PM)

Yes, he fights Anselmo Moreno on Dec. 3 on Showtime on the Mares-Agbeko II undercard. Glad to see you give the schedule a look once in awhile.

Crazy Person (Mental Institution)

IF YOU AND BHOP HATE EACH OTHER WHY DID YOU GO TO HIS FIGHT?!? YOU ARE A BHOP SHILL!

Dan Rafael
  (12:40 PM)

Exactly.

josh (Lumberton)

Hey dan, who would have won the fight last sat just by seeing those 2 rounds? Also whats next for bhop and dawson?

Dan Rafael
  (12:41 PM)

It is impossible to say after 1 1/2 rounds. Neither guy had done much of anything. Chad shaded round 1 based on one halfway decent flurry and not much had happened in round 2, although you can argue BHop should have gotten credit for a knockdown when Dawson touched the canvas.

John (Phoenix)

WILL PEOPLE READ THE FREAKING SKED FOR ONCE SO THAT WE CAN NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH DUMB QUESTIONS TAKING UP TIME!?!?! Yes, I understand that scrolling through the same fights every week is the worst part of being a freak, but it is something that must be done. READ THE SKED!!!

John (EL PASO, TX.)

Dan Who would you rather see fight Wlad, Tarver or Toney? Only asking cause their names keep coming up.

Dan Rafael
  (12:42 PM)

Neither. Both are wipeouts and neither deserve the shot based on what they have done at heavyweight.

Tom E (Lambertville, NJ)

What is Danny Jacobs doing?

Dan Rafael
  (12:43 PM)

Recovering from his back surgery.

Dan Rafael
  (12:44 PM)

Notebook is up: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7130781/lots-invites-showtime-dec-31-bash-boxing

Johann (Berlin, CT)

Any truth to the rumors that there is tension between the Khan and Pacquiao camps during training? I read that they are keeping the fighters away from each other during sparring because of a possible future fight. What do you think?

Dan Rafael
  (12:46 PM)

That is what I hear as it relates to some of Pacquiao's people, but I dont think there is any issue whatsoever with Khan's people or directly between the fighters. Khan looks up to Manny and they are friends.

E.C. (San Bernardino, Ca)

Dan, i know everyones talking about the b-hop fight and that was my first big fight i went to. Even though the ending sucked, man there is nothing like a live fight, i still had a great time. What a great ending to Demarco/Linares. The way the fans get into it there is nothing like it

Dan Rafael
  (12:47 PM)

I am glad you had a good time. It's nice to see something from a fan who is not crying or complaining about something for a change.

Martin (NYC)

i think danny garcia could beat zab judah now. thoughts?

Dan Rafael
  (12:47 PM)

I agree.

David (Houston)

Why are people in and around boxing so angry all the time? My 7 year old doesn't whine half as much. I'm talking both fans and professionals...

Oscar De La Hoya (Los Angeles)

I'm inspired to make a comeback..................wait waitMy twitter page mis quoted me.It's all lies. I am not coming out of retirement.

Darryl (Montreal)

Hey Dan did you happen to read Mannix's article where he writes that BHop should retire? Do you agree with this sentiment?

Dan Rafael
  (12:48 PM)

If he wrote that I couldnt disagree more.

Sammy (Jakartas)

What's nexts for Chris Johns?

Dan Rafael
  (12:49 PM)

I forget da opponent's name but it is in today's notebook. He is fightings in Australia on a Danny Green card.

Willy (NYC)

Any word on who Paul Williams will be fighting next?

Dan Rafael
  (12:50 PM)

Nothing. He wont be back until next year anyway. Plenty of time to figure it out. You know what I'm sayin'?

Juan (Riverside)

How do you like if Donaire and Gamboa fight at 126?

Dan Rafael
  (12:51 PM)

I would love to see that and I think it is entirely possible down the road a bit, although possibly at 130, since Gamboa is moving up.

Mikey (Jersey)

Any news on Kelly Pavlik?

Dan Rafael
  (12:51 PM)

Nothing new at this point. He is supposed to meet with Top Rank and his management to try to get on the same page.

Mike (Miami)

Any news about Lara ?

Brian (DC)

Who would you pick if Donaire fought a prime Rafael Marquez at 118?

Dan Rafael
  (12:52 PM)

Tough to pick against a prime Marquez at 118.

Richie (Bronx NY)

Why is Jones torturing us with fighting again? doesn't he understand fans are in pain watching that..

Dan Rafael
  (12:52 PM)

So dont watch.

Jeff (Lexington)

Dan, how much influence did Bob Arum have on Greenburg getting the boot?

Dan Rafael
  (12:54 PM)

Definitely some because of the leverage he had with Pacquiao.

Juan Castruita (San Diego)

I'm going to go ahead and add another to the list.. You're definitely carrying water for Pacquiao, because you buy into the notion that he's #1 pound for pound. He's either fought washed up or not-at-his-level opponents for the last 3 years! Hatton was done, Cotto's brother was a joke, Clottey HAHA, Margarito is not at his level, Mosley was DONE like a turkey on thanksgiving! And JMM won't give him any problems at that weight. OVERRATED.

Dan Rafael
  (12:54 PM)

Another idiot.

maniroc (Cicero, IL )

What was up with Gary Shaw and that trophy at the post-conference?

Dan Rafael
  (12:55 PM)

I think they had it made because the whole card was Golden Boy fighters against Gary's fighters so they made a trophy for the winner promoter to keep.

John (CT)

Mannix wrote based on what he saw that night, Dawson would beat Hopkins 10 out of 10 times. Said the only real chance BHOP has in a big fight is against raw, undisciplined punchers like Pascal. Said rangy, volume punchers like Dawson would eat him up.

Dan Rafael
  (12:56 PM)

Anyone who would make such a bold statement after less than two rounds, especially with regard to Hopkins, a NOTORIOUSLY slow starter, just hasn't been around long enough to really understand the sport. Maybe my friend was too busy worrying about the NBA lockout?

Jeff (Ohio)

Dan, did you happen to see the ESPN E:60 piece on former WWE wrestler Scott Hall? Heartbreaking but captivating. Couldn't take my eyes and ears off it.

Dan Rafael
  (12:57 PM)

Have not seen it but heard it was excellent. I will have to catch a replay.

Coz (Cincinnati)

How much interest will Manny/Marquez III actually draw?

Dan Rafael
  (12:58 PM)

More than a million PPV buyers.

Carlos (Gilroy)

Does Narvaez even have a chance tomorrow night?

Dan Rafael
  (12:58 PM)

He's an obvious underdog, but he's a two-time Olympian, a two-division titleholder, has fought outside of his own country several times in title bouts and is undefeated. Yeah, he has a chance.

@Vicmatic_TKO (north jersey)

pirog vs geale? any interest?

Dan Rafael
  (12:59 PM)

Yes, good fight.

Aaron (Hartford)

Sounds like Tom from Akron was bitten by one of those wild animals running around in his state...

Mark (WI)

Is there any way to watch Burns vs Katsidis on TV in America? This could be the FOY!

Dan Rafael
  (12:59 PM)

There is no US TV. I wanted EPIX to pick it up. My opinion only goes so far.

Darryl (Montreal)

Just read the notebook, really disappointing to see Lemieux's work ethic is not where Russ Anber believes it should be. You'd think his last fight would've woken him up

Dan Rafael
  (1:02 PM)

You'd think. But he's also only 22 and maybe not fully mature yet.

Jerry (Detroit)

Hagler wouldve destroyed Hopkins.

Dan Rafael
  (1:03 PM)

You're crazy. I'm not saying Hagler wouldn't have won, but destroy Hopkins? Please.

Bubba Gage (Ottawa IL)

Freak, As i told you on twitter thanks for clearing that up about the mayweather-ortiz PPV Numbers. While a lot of boxing people and websites were posting flat out dumb rumors, you gave us the facts which i respect 100 percent. Thanks Again.

Dan Rafael
  (1:03 PM)

You're welcome.

Boxing Newbie (Hong Kong)

My understanding of Boxing HOF is that only 3 boxers can be voted in, I was just wondering what would happen if two boxers are clearly ahead and with another two boxers getting the same amount of votes, will those 2 drawn boxers go in as well?

Dan Rafael
  (1:04 PM)

If there is a tie they would both go in.

Gene (Fort Lauderdale)

What's the story with Gariel Bracero? Why did he take such a long break and why's he not facing better talent. Seems to be spinning his wheels for an undefeated fighter over 30.

Dan Rafael
  (1:05 PM)

He was in prison.

Gerardo (AZ)

Hey Dan. I know the DeMarco - Linares fight doesn't completely meet the "standard" criteria for FOY, but I gotta say I enojyed as much as any other fight this year. Where does it rank for you?

Dan Rafael
  (1:06 PM)

Very good fight, great 11th round, not close to FOY IMO.

Andy (UK)

In your opinion, what are the chances that Cleverly can get one of Cloud/Dawson/Bhop etc. and get a fight on US TV? Have the networks heard of him?

Dan Rafael
  (1:07 PM)

I think they have heard of him (if they haven't they are not doing their jobs). I doubt he will get a shot with a guy like Dawson or Hopkins. Cloud? You never know. But so hard to make those fights sometimes. People have such crazy $ expectations, there are options, there are multiple titles involved. Etc...

Dave, NJ [via mobile]

Do you think the WBC will mandate Hopkins-Dawson II and if they do would Hopkins give up the title in your opinion?

Dan Rafael
  (1:08 PM)

I found it interesting that in all of the stuff the WBC wrote in giving Hopkins the title back it never once indicated it would order a rematch. I would imagine the WBC won't order a rematch but will keep Dawson high in its rankings.

Joe (PA)

Is EPIX or ESPN picking up the Wladimir Klitschko fight in Dec?

Dan Rafael
  (1:08 PM)

As far as I know, no, not at this point if for no other reason the asking price.

Liljo (Lake Worth Fl)

Dan what do you think about Bhop not wanting to give Dawson a rematch just like Dawson said when he thought he was champ?

Dan Rafael
  (1:09 PM)

I have no problem with either of them saying no to a rematch.

Mike (NJ)

I have not heard the amount of PPV buys for Mayweather/Ortiz. Have you?

Dan Rafael
  (1:11 PM)

Do you ever read my blogs, like yesterday's?

Richard (London UK)

Will Hopkins-Dawson likely be the worst performing PPV in the history of HBO?

Dan Rafael
  (1:12 PM)

No.

Jose Suliaman (Mexico City)

Under the accordance of WBC rule 32.6 (Appendix C, clause 17.2), and with full support of the Board of Governors, we hereby appoint Chad Dawson as the WBC interim diamond champion emeritus.

Dan Rafael
  (1:12 PM)

For a small sanctioning fee, of course.

josh (Lumberton)

did you read tarver and hopkins twitter? Tarver mad because he didn't get a rematch with hopkins lol and taylor gave up a rematch. Does Tarver realize he got dominated by hopkins and most ringside obsevers thought bhop one the first taylor fight.

Dan Rafael
  (1:14 PM)

I have seen it. It's been amusing. Tarver lost basically every round to Hopkins and got knocked down. There was no need for a rematch at all. And the fight was not very good to begin with.

Kevin (UK)

Dan you breifly spoke about the Roy Jones -Denis Lebedev fight on SC and how Roy was on his way to losing a split decision. I havent seen the fight, was it really that close? Who did you have winning at the time of the stoppage?

Dan Rafael
  (1:15 PM)

Roy was competitive. I watched the fight live on the Internet and I thought Lebedev was winning fairly easily.

Mike (Los Angeles)

Dan Pacquaio's promoted card at San Manuel Indian Nation isn't going to be televised. I'm going to have to go there to watch the fights right?

Dan Rafael
  (1:15 PM)

Correct, no TV for that card.

Matthew (London UK)

Watched an interview this week with Col. Bob Sheridan from a little while back. He says you guys are good friends, and calls you one of the best boxing writers on the beat, but also criticizes you for criticizing the sanctioning bodies. Is he for real???

Dan Rafael
  (1:16 PM)

Yes, Colonel is a dear friend. I love the guy. He is a wonderful guy with a bazillion great boxing stories. But we do argue about the sanctioning bodies. But that's cool. He is passionate about boxing and loves the sport. We can argue and disgaree but still be friends.

Rob (Denton, Tx)

Do you know when the last time a fighter or a fight has been on the cover of Sports Illustrated? It was good to see a big write-up about the Mayweather-Ortiz fight before the fight.

Dan Rafael
  (1:17 PM)

I think there was a small cover photo before Mayweather-Ortiz. There was a full cover of Oscar and Mayweather before their fight.

Tom (UK)

What were some of the worst performing PPV's in HBO's history?

Dan Rafael
  (1:18 PM)

There have been some bad ones. I think Roy Jones-Montell Griffin 2 (on a Thursday night as I recall) tanked. Maskaev-Rahman 2 was a huge money loser. There have been some bad ones.

Rick (Marina Ca)

Whats up Dan, does Navarez have any punching power ?

Dan Rafael
  (1:20 PM)

He's not a big puncher but he has some KOs. 19 KOs in 35ish wins. Not bad but not great.

Derek (Boulder)

Looks like you have an extra dose of morons today

Dan Rafael
  (1:20 PM)

It's bad today.

Joe (Vancouver)

Is Povetkin really going to fight Cedric Boswell on Dec 3? Cedric says the fight is going to happen, but I've seen no statement from Sauerland. Have you heard anything new as to who Helenius will be fighting on that card? I understand they sent an offer to Dimitrenko.

Dan Rafael
  (1:21 PM)

That is the likely fight for Povetkin on Dec. 3.

nick (florida)

hey dan, ave you seen abner cotto fight? is he any good

Dan Rafael
  (1:23 PM)

I have seen him a few times. He's OK. He's no Miguel.

Nizzi (Des Moines)

What happened to Povetkin vs. Holyfield?

Dan Rafael
  (1:23 PM)

Not happening from what I am told.

crispanic (chantilly, va)

how much did Hopkins and Dawson get paid for this non-fight?

Dan Rafael
  (1:25 PM)

Hopkins' official purse was $1 million, Dawson's official purse was $800,000. That what was on the California contracts. But promoters play funny business all the time and I suspect both got more.

jt$ (DC)

So no Linares-Demarco on the replay tomorrow night? That's a cryin' shame. That's the kind of fight that more people need to see.

Dan Rafael
  (1:26 PM)

HBO will show extended highlights or selected rounds.

Tom (Sacramento)

I have read the notebook, didn't Dzinziruk turn down some fights from HBO? I don't think he just sat without HBO offering him tough fights, correct?

Dan Rafael
  (1:27 PM)

No, he didnt turn down anything from HBO.

Jordan (Matsue, Japan)

Moron: Hopkins was faking!Dan: No, he wasn't. I tweeted the doctor's note after interviewing him, as is my job.Moron: The doctor is faking too! And you're in the tank for Hopkins!I do not envy you sir.

Wil (Toronto)

Of the options currently presented to Showtime for their New Year's Eve card, which do you like best?

Dan Rafael
  (1:28 PM)

Pirog-Geale without question.

Andy (Ventura, Ca)

Dan, I've never seen Austin Trout fight - what is your opinion of him?

Dan Rafael
  (1:29 PM)

I have seen 4-5 of his fights. He's tough, not much power, good boxer. And has won on the road in Mexico. He at least deserves a chance to face a good name opponent and see what he can do.

Fred (CT)

How much do you count a fighter's amateur career in your Hall of Fame voting? I was thinking about Sven Ottke and if you consider his both pro and amateur then I think he gets in.

Dan Rafael
  (1:29 PM)

It counts in the whole picture for me.

Rick (Marina Ca)

Why is HBO replaying the hop-dawson fight, it wasn't even a fight. Waste of time, if I was head of HBO I would just show the incident and then say ok we will now show you the fight of the ppv the linares vs demarco

Dan Rafael
  (1:30 PM)

Seriously? It's a 5 1/2-minute fight. Get over yourself.

Gabe Saginaw Mi [via mobile]

Big setback for Luis Collazo losing to Freddy Hernandez.

Dan Rafael
  (1:30 PM)

Massive setback. Was a good fight but Luis did not look particularly good at all and got knocked down.

Bing (Philly)

If the Cali commission changes the Hopkins/Dawson result to a No Contest, does that mean they are still contractually obligated to fight again because it's like the first fight never happened?

Dan Rafael
  (1:31 PM)

Not at all Bing A Ling.

Josh (Iowa)

If Hopkins-Dawson eventually gets ruled a no-contest, what does that do for BHop's 3-fight deal w/ HBO?

Dan Rafael
  (1:31 PM)

My belief is that win, lose, no contest or whatever, HBO will still do Hopkins' next fight.

Mike (Chicago)

How much of a chance would you give Erdei against Shumenov?

Dan Rafael
  (1:32 PM)

Very solid, competitive fight. Erdei is a little odler and slower now and more flatfooted when he fights but Shumenov has a ton of flaws.

David (Cape Canaveral)

Dan, saw Francisco Palacios who is fighting on the Jones-Marrone card, said he is promised a rematch with Wlordczik after....any thoughts.

Dan Rafael
  (1:32 PM)

Before I watch that rematch I would rather gouge out my eyes with a rusty nail. The first fight was HORRIBLE. Made Ruiz-Oquendo look like Gatti-Ward 1.

Jim (Santa Monica)

James DeGale: Good win last week. He says he wants Kessler, but I think he's still too raw. Do you agree?

Dan Rafael
  (1:33 PM)

Way too raw. Couldn't handle Groves. He's going to handle Kessler? He needs to step back.

Jose (Lennox, CA)

I like how Anthony Mundine thinks he's being blackballed by the U.S. for his comments about 9/11. I think anyone who is one of Sven Ottke's 6 KO victims loses alot of credibility!

Dan Rafael
  (1:35 PM)

Mundine is a buffoon. Nobody in America cares about him or wants to see him. Not because of his hateful comments 10 years ago but because he's not much of a fighter.

Fred (CT)

Wow, two Sven Ottke references in the same chat. We must all have no life.

Dan Rafael
  (1:36 PM)

LOL.

Juan (Sherman Oaks)

Please Tell me when Schafer talks about Morales/Maidana and Demarco/Linares rematches he talking about HBO chamionship card and not pay per view. That would be a great great night of fights

Dan Rafael
  (1:36 PM)

He didn't say.

Mike (Los Angeles)

Dan how far off is Helenius and Tyson fury for getting a shot at the Klitschko's? 2-3 fights?

Dan Rafael
  (1:37 PM)

Could be about that, yes. Not much else for the Klitschkos to fight.

Scott (Massachusetts)

i would be a huge fan of brandon rios if he diden't do that weird yelling thing he does, any way you can ask him to never do that again?

Dan Rafael
  (1:38 PM)

I would suggest simply turn the channel or lower the sound at the moment of his victory.

Shawn (Tempe)

I think there's a misprint in the schedule...says Oliver McCall is fighting on Nov. 5. That can't be right, can it?

Dan Rafael
  (1:38 PM)

It is entirely correct.

John (Phoenix)

Did you get any blowback from your comments on Hershman declining the Rios deal with Showtime because he knew he was moving. Obviously, I understand you were not making accusations, just mentioning a topic. Did you hear about that from anyone?

Dan Rafael
  (1:38 PM)

Nope.

Fitz (Somerville)

Things like Sven Ottke references are why I love the Freak Chat.

Gary (Coppell Texas)

Hey Dan any possible opponet for Andre DIrrell, and wqill it be aired on ESPN, thats the rumor

Dan Rafael
  (1:39 PM)

Absolutely nothing.

Mike (Los Angeles)

Are you going to watch the "Klischokos" movie that starts today? Heard a lot of good reviews about it.

Dan Rafael
  (1:39 PM)

Ive seen it as I received a copy it months ago because I am in it.

Steve (Brokelynn)

Isnt today supposed to be the end of the world?

Dan Rafael
  (1:40 PM)

I heard that the loony dude who keeps missing his predictions of the end of the word swears that he figured out the issue and that today is the day. And if this is the end I can think of nothing better than hanging with the Freaks. Well, maybe a few things...

Barry (Werner, CO)

Ever see good throwdowns between media guys on press row or in the press room?

Dan Rafael
  (1:40 PM)

Not an all out fight, although I missed the legendary Borges-Katz battle.

Mikey (Jersey)

This chat might cause the apocalypse...

Secret Squirrel (Philadelphia)

What was Danny Swift Garcia's purse for the Kendall Holt fight? Do you think he will eventually look for a different trainer to help tighten some routines?

Dan Rafael
  (1:41 PM)

As I tweeted, Garcia's purse was $75,000. Holt's, as I recall, was $31,000.

Brody (NYC)

Dan, any plans to appear at the Sports Industry Networking and Career Conference again this year? Thanks.

Dan Rafael
  (1:44 PM)

Haven't been invited this year and do not know when it is. But I did have fun doing it.

BoxingFan (London)

you are fat pile of rubbish , dan .

Dan Rafael
  (1:44 PM)

Did your parents have any children who lived?

Dave (Cincinnati,OH)

Dan, really interested in the Klitschko doc. Seems like it is only in a limited release, NY/LA. Do you know if there is going to a be wider release or is going to DVD soon?

Dan Rafael
  (1:45 PM)

Not sure about a wide release, but if you are interested in the brothers the docu is VERY detaled and outstanding. Has good stuff about where they grew up, stuff with their parents, lots of stuff about their biggest fights, etc...

Aaron (Hartford)

Dan, one request if this is last day of our World... one last Joey Gilbert question to make me laugh....thanks !

Mike (Los Angeles)

That would suck if they finally got Pac/Floyd Dec. 21st 2012, but then the Apocalypse would happen a day before...

Dan Rafael
  (1:46 PM)

Ya think?

RALPH (LONG ISLAND)

LOVE CHILD NEWS????

Dan Rafael
  (1:47 PM)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child. I spoke to Kathy Duva last week and he probably will not fight until next year.

Max (Boston)

i think the Apocalypse is more likely then the manny floyd fight happening

Randy (NYC)

Damn Linares is good.. damn did he get busted up

Dan Rafael
  (1:51 PM)

Well said.

Dan Rafael
  (1:54 PM)

OK Freaks, thanks for chatting. Hope you check out the notebook, Donaire feature and all the news stories this week. And follow me on Twitter @danrafael for updates throughout Saturday's Donaire-Narvaez card. I'll be in NYC covering the card. Talk you next week. Peace.