Greetings Fight Freaks, I'll be back with you at the conclusion of the Marquez-Fedchenko fight. They're in round 4. We can discuss the PPV, including the horrible decision that saw Abril ROBBED against Rios.
Hi Fight Freaks, here I am to chat in this special RAD now that the PPV is over. Marquez wins a lopsided decision, Abril gets hosed against Rios, Alvarado wins a decision over Herrera in a war and Gesta stops Cuero. Let's get to it.
Popo and Thunder could have done a better job scoring that one!
Agreed. Rios-Abril is one of the worst scorecards I have EVER seen. I had Abril winning EASILY.
I thought Rios won a close decision, I think your scored card was off because of the commentary, Rios I thought was the effective aggressor, Abril landed some good shots but all he did was hold and go into his defensive shell while Rios landed a bunch of blocked punches, not much action...I thought Rios won on just letting his punches go...
I dont agree at all. Rios was NOT EFFECTIVE. He was slow, off target and missed a ton of his shots. Abril controlled the entire fight and definitely outlanded him.
WHY put these fights on PPV? PPV events like these will turn off the casual fan...both these fights would've been great on HBO
Are we really going to go there?
Withthe questionable victory by Rios -- do you think decisions like these (negatively) affect the popularity of boxing?
Yes, bad decision after bad decision have driven people away from the sport. I am disgusted with it tonight.
Good for Gamboa finally to step out of the fight, Rios is not even a lightweight, Top Rank wanted him to get beat by Bam Bam because they had the feeling Yuriorkis did not wanted to be with top rank anymore. Rios is a fool to continue to fighting little guy at lightweight.
Gamboa could have just said no to begin with, fine. But he accepted and then bailed with no notice on the day of a press conference. That is not cool.
Dan, Mike Alvarado is now 33-0 (22 KOs) and he's fought some solid competition. Why in the world has he not even had a shot at a world title and only two shots at regional titles? Bad management?
Top Rank needs to get him a title shot. He deserves it.
is there any chance at all tha the judges get suspended just like in the willians lara fight this is what is killing boxing time after time again at this point people are just getting used to it
Doubtful. Very doubtful.
Why should I continue to watch this sport that I love after decisions like Rios/Abril?
I dont know.
D$ - What a waste that no one will remember or care about the awesome Alvarado-Herrera fight. I love boxing but why follow it for what is becoming a weekly occurrence - horrible decisions. Good night.
Bro Dan. WTF!!!? Abril got straight hosed sir! Is the politic machine that powerful to push rios v marquez to commit such blasphemy? I'm very disappointed with the judging of recent fights. This is one of the worst.
I agree. I'd rather see Marquez-Alvarado now.
Can Richard Abril file a protest? He clearly won the fight with Rios. This kind of decision or robbery as I see it makes boxing a rotten organization. Those 2 judges that favors rios should be banned for life!
He can but the commission wont do anything.
they need new judges how long do fans have to suffer.they wonder why boxing is a dying sport. rios clearly lost the fight
They should give the 50k to Abril anyway, he not just win against Rios, he schooled him!
If they dont give it to Abril, split it between Alvarado and Herrera for what they did tonight. That was a well-scored terrific fight.
D$ - After yet another robbery I am having a hard time supporting boxing right now. Unreal.
Dan, you are screaming robbery, but will you say the word FIXED?
It wasnt fixed.
how do you think marquez looked physically?...... a little too bulked up?
He looked like he did against Manny. Muscular and strong. We're just used to seeing him as a lightweight.
we stay up late, we spend our hard earned money, just for another sham like tonight....
The fights themselves were solid, which is the main thing. But that one decision was WRETCHED.
Gotta believe Rios gets dusted by kahn, peterson, marquez, and many others at 140
dan considering what transpired today what do you think there is a better we see alvarado vs marquez or do you believe top rank will go ahead with the proposed rios vs marquez
I have no idea but I cant see how they can try to sell Marquez-Rios at this point.
Good to see BK back on TV. FNF isn't the same
Was good to hear him.
why are you so down on rios? its not like he paid the judges to score it that way..if so, we can be down on pac, pwill etc..
I'm down because he didnt make weight and fought a terrible fight and got a gift. He doesnt control the judging but his performance was not good.
rios looks like easy pickings vs. any jr. welter who can box.
Marquez looked sharp against a unwilling fedchencko. What were your thoughts?
I agree. He did what he had to do, dominated and went for the KO, but Fedchenko was a survivor.
Dan, every time I invite my non-boxing friends over, something like this happens. And I wonder why I'm the only boxing fan at my office.
How well do you think this $45 PPV did considering there was hardly anyone at the fight?
This decision smelled worse than somebody taking a Valuev.
It probably did not do well on PPV but nobody, including TR, expected it would. I was satisfied as a consumer with the fights but not the decision in the Rios fight.
when floyd retires is boxing...as ppv over
No. That's a stupid remark.
which one of the undercard fighters impressed you the most?
Abril and Alvarado.
I feel sorry for Abril, but honestly I dont want to see him in any other Main Event. his style is just not fan friendly.
Maybe not but he won.
In all seriousness did you think this was worse than Santa Cruz-Casa? To me that's the golden standard for robberies...
Maybe not QUITE that bad but close. I was at Santa Cruz-Casamayor and I had it 11-1 for Santa Cruz (and he scored a knockdown).
Dan, I notice that Abril was doing great with the shoulder roll. Mayweather has made that style so interesting to watch, and when done effectively, it seems that the only answer is a stiff quick jab. Why do so few fighters use the shoulder roll?
Good question. Abril did it very, very well. That's why Rios missed so many shots.
you guys hungry lets rap this up early
I think Jerry Roth and Glenn Trowbridge broke their TOE on their way to Mandalay Bay.
I didn't see it but from what I've seen, Abril got Van Hoyed?
Out of all the fights you have covered for years, what 2 fighters, in your opinion, really disliked each other w/o any gimmicks?
Barrera and Morales despised each other.
It's hard not to pull for Michael Katsidis, but watching the 9th and 10th Rounds last night was painful. I really felt he would collapse and have to be carried out on a stretcher at any moment. Any word if this will be his last fight? Please encourage him to call it a career.
Michael had a rough night last night on FNF and his better days are gone. He has taken a LOT of punishment too and I do hope he strongly considers retirement.
What's the wait for Showtime approving Pascal/Cloud?
Showtime wants it. They are negotiating the terms.
So can I get my fight with Rios now?
Anyone have Abril's number? I want to buy him a cerveza. Thanks
Maybe the Neveda Boxing Commission needs to hire the American Idol judges for Vegas fights. Even J-LO and Steven Tyler would have gotten the Abril decision right.
What do you think about may-cotto 24/7?
I didnt watch it. I was watching the PPV. I have it on my DVR.
Hey Brandon, we got 15 minutes before they shut down the buffet!!
What's next for Marquez? And how do you assess his performance?
He won easily against a competent pro who has a good chin. He may fight in July, maybe Rios, maybe Gesta, maybe wait for possible Pacquiao 4th fight in the fall.
Whats going on with the Love Child?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child. June 1 on NBC Sports Net.
i think i did a toeffric job tonite eating all abrils punches toenite
Any chance Vanes/K-9 gets made for the June 9 undercard?
No. Bundrage has a due mandatory with Spinks and they made a deal for a fight that is supposed to be June 23.
Local media is reporting Mundine is calling out Manny, I laughed my head off when reading this. Is Mundine as disliked in the States as he is here in his own country?
Dont know about disliked but nobody here gives a damn about him. Why should they?
what did you think of gesta? i don't thnk he's ready for any of the big names yet.
I've never thought much of him. He looked fine tonight but he is not ready for a top guy.
How about some love for Tyson Fury, took care of Rogan today easily.
Yeah? And he didnt look all that good doing what he was supposed to do against a 40-year-old journeyman.
Is it too far fetched for Marquez to get the winner of Peterson/Khan?
Very unlikely given their promotional ties.
dan any news on kirkland??
Had shoulder surgery and is out until at least September.
Who's crying more tonight: Richard Abril, Rios' nutritionist or Gamboa for passing up the surest thing since the easy girl on prom night?
I think people are really under estamating Shane Mosley for his upcoming fight and truthfully i think Alvarez is in for a Rude Awakening
Why? Mosley has not done a thing for three consecutive fights. It's one thing to lose (or draw in the case of the Mora fight) but he looked absolutely horrible in all three fights. That's not an accident. That is a fighter who cant do it at the top anymore.
Who should Khan fight after he wins his rematch vs. Peterson?
I dont know but I would imagine he will move up to 147. I'd like to see him maybe fight the Ortiz-Berto 2 winner if he beats Peterson and moves up.
props to herrera and alvardo for making the PPV worth the purchase
Efren give it a freakin rest.
I do tend to lean towards the Marquez brother to be the best dual in boxing but I still think the Klitschkos have to be in the mix somewhere
I would take the Klitschos. DOMINANT heavyweight champions. Rafael Marquez was terrific but not on par with his brother or the accomplishments of the Klitschkos.
Was it your idea or ESPN's to spread the notebook out? (PS: I love the notebook.)
I do understand your point Dan but Alvarez Has never Fought anyone on Shanes level and Mayweather and Pacquiao makes a lot of people look bad
And Mora? Shane is 40 and threw no punches in either fight and fought to survive, never to win.
Next fight you are traveling to?
April 28 for Hopkins-Dawson 2 in AC, May 5 in Vegas for Mayweather-Cotto, May 19 in Vegas for Peterson-Khan 2 and May 26 in Nottingham, England for Bute-Froch.
How is going, Dan? I am desperete to see Pacquiao and Mayweather finally fight. I was wondering if you think there is a decent chance that the two will fight in May 2013?
Who the heck knows?
your not traveling for the best fight out of all of them Pac-Bradley?
That's not until June. I'll be there too.
Mayweather vs Tito. Who wins?
Oh stop. Mayweather by toyage.
how much of Rios performance do we blame on the weight cut?
Obviously, that is part of it but that's his own fault.
Dan, whats your thoughts on Hopkins-Dawson 2? IMO Hopkins didnt look like he was too eager to take either fight with Chad?
Dan, you're telling me you aren't gonna take a red eye to Ukraine the night of the Hopkins fight to cover the Twitter King the next day. LOL!
I'll pass and watch the PPV.
What's even worse is that Abril fought his heart out, he shut down Rios inside and picked him off on the outside. But now Rios is going to a multi-million dollar payday against JMM while Abril looked too dangerous for any big name to want to fight him now.
dan do decsions like this turn you off the sport?
Yes. I am disgusted. I could barely watch the JMM fight.
Favorite part of being a journalist?
Going to the fights.
Sturm reportedly was excellent against Zbik on Friday. What do you see for him the rest of this year?
Sturm looked great. Best he has looked in a long time. I watched the fight live. Beat him down, made him quite, awesome jab. He is supposed to make a mandatory against Golovkin, which is a very interesting fight to me.
Are you excited about Stevenson on FNF this week? If he wins where do you see him in the 168 picture?
I like Stevenson so I am looking forward to seeing him on FNF. Not sure what's next if he wins though.
Linares was talking crap on Twitter about how boxing writers don't know about boxing because they haven't stepped in the ring.. If it weren't for a boxing writer, who the hell would know about you???
When's the last time Linares wrote a story on deadline? He should worry more about his chin than what anybody writes. LOL.
Dan: True or False - Erik Morales did more to earn a fight with Marquez tonight in losing to Garcia than Rios did in accepting the proceeds of a heist?
Good call. Yes!
who wins mythical 3rd fight in Apollo/Rocky trilogy?
Probably Apollo but Trowbridge and Roth would have Rocky.
Dan, do any of the big players in boxing show any indication of recognizing the fact that they are collectively destroying the sport?
Lou DiBella's tweets are great. After Rios decision tonight. "F*** THIS CORRUPT, SELF DESTRUCTIVE INDUSTRY"
Lou is Lou. Wears his heart on his sleeve.
I wouldn't mind seeing Juan marquez vs Devon Alexander
Interesting but I think unless JMM gets Pacquia, he will stay at 140 for the time being. Devon is now at 147.
We get it! Abril was robbed. Move onto some real questions
You're banned. I'm in no mood for the likes of you.
What fight when you were journalist that you missed that you would have wanted to witness it in person?
Let's be more realistic: I wouldn't mind seeing Khan vs Alexander... Good fight!
Also a good fight and one I think is possible.
Dan, is it me or is the hate amped up X 10 on RAD chats?
LOL. So true.
Dan where Do you rate Mayweather/Cotto Undercard on a scale from 1-5
Someone call the CDC and tell them to Quarantine all Texas judges, their mediocrity is spreading at an exponential rate.
Pay the man, Shirley.
Dan anyone you know that went to the Mike Tyson show tonight? Curious to see what people are thinking of it.
I know several people who were there and I can't wait to hear about it.
Was Santa Cruz-Casamayor the worst big-fight decision you've ever seen (watching on TV and in-person fights included)?
Yes, it is the single worst decision I have ever seen period in my life, live or on TV, including all the famous robberies. That was the single worst one ever. Santa Cruz could have won 12-0 plus scored a knockdown and got robbed of winning the lightweight champinship.
Trowbridge and Roth had the meat carcass hanging in the freezers ahead on points over Rocky Balboa.
Pay the man, Shirley!
how can someone like james toney keep getting licensed to fight? does the commission that licenses him benefit from it somehow?
I have no idea. As I have stated before, his speech is so obviusly slurred and poor that he sounds like he has brain damage.
Where is Tysons Show held?
At a theater at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Dan has a boxer ever tried to confront you regarding something you may have said or wrote that was not in their favor?
Is The Tyson Show going to be a regular out there? if so the wifey is going to be mad when i force to go with me there on are next trip.lol
Right now it is a 2-week run but it could be extended.
What is Epix boxing budget? Are they happy with their ratings in regards to boxing? It is beyond awesome that they are picking up so many fights recently.
I dont know the exact budget but from what they tell me they are quite pleased with the program and the ratings and the publicity. So now we're going to England to do Bute-Froch ringside. They much be happy because that's a lot more expensive to do than to have us in a studio.
dan considering Rios vs marquez may have taken a hit tonight do you think there is any chance we may finally get to see marquez vs morales on july 16 I have always wanted to see that fight.
I think it is unlikely but I still want to see that fight.
Did you ever get to see Roberto Duran live? What was that like?
I never covered one of his fights live but I have met him several times. Cool guy, seems to enjoy being around fans and comes out to a lot of fights. Check out my photo on my Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dan-Rafael-ESPN/320596341293700
So... is Zab Judah going to Russia to fight Khabib Allakhverdiev?
Dan, so who is Broner fighting...
Not set yet. HBO figures it should wait until fight week I guess.
What fight do you wish you could have covered?
Cain vs Abel.
Speaking of robbery, watching Whitaker vs Chavez now.
which one was worst roberry yet Rios vs Abril or Campillo vs Cloud!?
To me, Abril-Rios definitely. But they both stunk.
Just watched 24/7. Mayweather talks about betting on dog fights, challenges PETA, and brags about wearing mink coats.
Any truth to the rumors that Golden Boy will ask for a volunteer from the audience to fight Broner?
You never know.
You never know.
Do you think Broner vs Gamoa is possible in the future?
Depends if Gamboa gets out of his contract with Top Rank. But I'd say no.
TerranceCrawford looked pretty impresive tonight what do you think the future holds for him?
He did look tremendous. I watched the off TV fights on ESPN3.com and he scored a great KO. Looks like a very talented prospect.
Mayweather's bromance with 50 cent is becoming... uncomfortable to watch. Is 50 going to take Ellerbe's place as the guy who rubs down Mayweather's chest and legs during fights while reassuring him that he's the man?
Dan I hear Thomas dulorme may fight on june 14th on a broadway boxing card considering he just fought on shobox are you surprised he is not fighting in a bigger platform and how long do you think it will be until he fights for a title
That is the plan. Fighting in NY will be good for him to have Puerto Rican fans at his fight.
This is the 2nd fishy scorecard Trowbridge has given in within the calendar month. Both in favor of TR. Sorry, but if theres smoke.......
Any correlations between top rank and bad judging from your point of view?
No, there is bad judging around fights of all promoters. That's a silly comment.
I think Gamboa would have destroyed Rios. Your take?
Dont agree with that. Dont know what would have happened but I do not see what you said.
I dont want to hear he was weight drained either!! Cant make the weight dont sign the contract!!!
I never thought I'd say this, but tonight Adelaide Byrd got it right.
Who did Rios hire as his dietician? Ronald McDonald? He looked very stiff / slow tonight.
Anytime you talk to Oscar de la Hoya on Twitter, it cracks me up. He asked you about Rios for missing weight, and you kindly reminded him of Castillo missing weight on his card last month. Classic!
Just keepin' it real.
Lost in all this, Marquez is still the man.
Dan, thanks for the late night chat! I am of the belief that Floyd's prison stint will make the Pacquiao fight more plausible. A man has nothing to do but think about his legacy in the clink. Agree or disagree?
It's nights like these that make me proud to be associated with boxing.
marqez looked like his hairline was receeding big time
Probably from drinking too much pee?
Who moves higher in your Lightweight rankings, Abril or Mensah? Both put in very good performances this weekend.
I can't even keep track of how many robberies there have been already this year...
Interest in Rios vs Marquez at an all time low now?
I would imagine so.
Whenever I feel down, I read the comments by the basement losers, and all of the their hate and bitterness towards you makes me know that life could be a lot worse.
Rios lost every minute of that fight
I wouldnt get that carried away.
What do you think of the quadruple header on Showtime? And whats the 4th fight for that card? Tarver-Kayode, Winky-Quillen, Trout-D Rod . and?
TBA, but I suspect it will be Santa Cruz vs Malinga for a vacant bantam title.
when is roy jones fighting next? he says he going to make the greatest comeback in boxing history
I should ban you.
These decisions r killin boxing
EVERYBODY BE COOL THIS IS A ROBBERY!!
Hey there dan , do you ever think that donaire could face gamboa anytime soon? I also think broner and russell could help create a four to six man tournament like the super six.
No, Top Rank isn't going to make that match anytime soon and Gamboa is in a lawsuit right now anyway. As for Broner and Russell, they will be steered away from each other. Neither will happen at any time in the near future or even in the next couple of years.
ABRIL FOOL'S DAY!!!
Pay the man, Shirley!
Danimal, Oscar is blaming Top Rank for Rios-Abril robbery, does it mean all GBB's fights had no issues? Lol
That's dumb. I dont blame Top Rank. I blame the two judges who got it way wrong.
OK Freaks thanks for chatting tonight. Wish it was under better circumstances instead of that disgusting decision. Anyway, hope you enjoyed tonight's fights. Talk you Friday back at our usual time. Peace.