Greetings Fight Freaks, the Showtime fights are still going. We are late in the Quillin-Winky fight and Tarver-Kayode is up next. I will be back at the conclusion of Tarver-Kayode. Been a full night of boxing. See you in a little bit.
I'm here Fight Freaks. We're going to the scorecards in Tarver-Kayode after a lonnnngggg night of boxing. Five fights on Showtime/Showtime Extreme. Let's get to it.
We go the scorecards. Split decision. 115-113 Tarver, 115-113 Kayode and 114-114 we have a split draw!
Tarver for being 43 looked great the whole fight kayose on the other hand seems to wear down in the late rounds.
I wasnt impressed with either of them. Tarver way too inactive for the first half of the fight. Kayode so raw and unimpressive.
A younger Tarver would have shut this guy out!
You're probably right.
Did Tarver's performance tonight look like a bit of ring rust to you? It seems like he still has the skills and ability but just didn't bring the tempo and aggression necessary to be effective, at least until later in the fight.
Who won the wright vs quillin fight?
Quillin, by decision, easily. Knocked Winky down too.
I think Trout gives Canelo quite a scare if they meet. In fact, I am not so sure that Canelo would win. I would love to see it!
Boring fight to me.
Hey Dan did you need coffee with these bad fights?
Not the most exciting night. I thought Bika looked great in the Showtime Extreme fight, Santa Cruz threw a billion punches and was fun. Trout-Rodriguez was not a good fight. Quillin-Wright had a few moments but was not much of a fight. Tarver-Kayode was good the last few rounds.
What the hell is Kayode yelling about? Anyone understand a word he is saying?
PLEASE NO REMATCH ON THIS FIGHT!!
Tarver getting old quick
No, he's not. It took him 43 years.
What a crock. Both of them should've lost.
antonio tarver is too old to have a fight end in a draw, he'll be 47 by the time they can schedule a rematch
Do you think Showtime regrets not picking up Bute-Froch even more now? Card wasn't awful, but wasn't spectacular either
No, they made a calculated decision.
canelo vs ?????
Can you make 154?
You really think they'll match Quillin against Canelo?
Are you drunk?
Well, Kayode just burned his bridges with that powerful mouth of his in that Jim Grey interview
I have no idea what he said.
Dan do you think winky is a hofer
what do you see next for Quillin??
Good question. Not sure. A lot of the 160s are tied up now with other fights. I'd like to see him against maybe a Matthew Macklin type, some solid legit contender.
Love Tarver the commentator -- can't stand hearing Tarver the fighter. He needs a Klitschko to give him some reality.
Klitschko, either of them, would SMOKE Tarver. It would not be pretty.
Dan, is Golden Boy not considering Cotto for Canelo because of timing, or because they think Cotto would wipe him out?
Cotto doesnt want to fight in the fall, according to Richard Schaefer. That is why he hasnt been in the running to face Canelo.
Is Pacquiao Bradley worth buying or should I save my money?
Up to you.
How do you think Quillin stacks up to fighters of the Chavez, Jr.-Andy Lee quality?
Quillin against either would be a good fight.
Did you hear Victor Ortiz say he wants a rematch with Floyd? Any chance of that happening?
I seriously doubt it.
hey dan, did u watch 24/7 tonight? Roach brought another condition coach in and he wants ariza out
No I didnt.
Do you think Kirkland had a legit reason for backing out of the Canelo fight or is he running? Canelo is fast, strong, and we've seen what a weak puncher can do to Kirkland.
He's injured and wants to be overpaid to risk his shoulder. KNOWING he is hurt who would want to buy the fight anyway?
Johan Dantana, any word on Jose Benavidez's return tonight?
That was last week chief, and he won a shutout 6-rd decision.
Kirkland's last couple days... does he set a record for a delusional fighter and adviser? Not a good look these last couple days.
Looks like a typical fighter who knows how to fight but is clueless about how the business works. He's lucky to even get the offer for the fight considering he should have lost his last fight if not for the gift from the referee for DQing Molina.
Speaking of Molina, here's my blog from earlier: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/1230/molina-merits-canelo-consideration
Dan, read your blog on the Canelo situation. Intentionally or unintentionally, it would teach Kirkland a lesson if they made the fight with Molina. But I still don't see that happening. High risk, low reward.
Kayode screaming at Jim Grey that the network somehow screwed him by giving a draw to Tarver since he works for Showtime. Because that is rational thinking.
Kayode is delusional and apparently not very smart.
What grade would you give the Showtime crew tonight? They weren't perfect, but it was a long card.
A for effort. Grading on the actual outcome of the bouts I would say C.
I am very impressed with the main play by play announcer at the EPIX card for the Bute-Froch fight, he was very animated and seemed like what Showtime needs.
Our blow-by-blow announcer on Epix is Bruce Beck and he is terrific.
Canelo-Lara why won't happen ? Same promoters, Lara is rank #1. Both fighters from WBC. Why Not ?
Because Golden Boy probably thinks Lara will beat Alvarez, which he probably would, and Lara means nothing business-wise compared to Canelo.
I had the same opinion than you! It was a close fight, Tarver vs Kayode. Draw. I expecting that decision: DRAW
Bika was impressive tonight. Good fighter, never beats the top tier guys but is a tough, solid fighter
Bika might have been the most impressive fighter on the show tonight. He'll give anybody at 168 a tough fight. ANYBODY.
YES!!!! Big win for him tonight in Uraguay, KO9 against Oliveira after a five-year layoff! My cat is thrilled!
Ward crushes Dawson. Agreed?
Someone should tell Kayode that if you can't knockout a 43 year old man (not Hopkins) you shouldn't be running your mouth
I guess today was an okay warm up for next weeks pay per view
Any fighters in your mind already for 2012's fighter of the year?
You have to have Mayweather and Froch on the list but there are still seven months to go.
DTM!!! So do u think Trout is a worthy opponent for Canelo on PPV? If not, who do u see Canelo fighting?
I dont because I dont think anybody pays to see Trout. He's good but not all that exciting and very unknown. The one thing he might have going for him is that he beat Canelo's brother to win his belt so there is that angle of Canelo going for family revenge.
b-hop-cleverly...good fight to keep b-hop's career relevant?
Your nuts, Santa Cruz was way more impressive. The kid stole the show
He was very good but I give Bika the slight edge.
Dan, How long before Espinoza brings Roy Jones jr and Marco Antonio Barrera to Showtime? Thankfully Santa Cruz put on a great performance.
LOL! What about Riddick Bowe and Evander Holyfield?
For a fight like tonight's, will Freddy just fly in for the day and fly back out after the fight? Tough timing with Manny going next week.
The fight tonight was in Carson, maybe a half hour drive from his gym. No issue.
Santa Cruz vs Donaire would be epic sometime in late 2013! Agree or is that too early?
Too early and Santa Cruz is at 118 and Donaire will probably soon be at 126.
After tonight Tarver's analysis of Kayode was right on the money. Kayode threw wild slapping punches that didn't land, his defense was bad and showed a lot of signs of inexperience. I don't see how Kayode will beat any top cruiserweights.
Dan, No chance of a Canelo-Chavez jr. Mexican independence day fight???
Less than zero.
Any more Punisher updates since the surgery? After watching how Corrales's life ended it is amazing he even got on a bike.
Paul had a 6-hour plus surgery on Friday night and is resting in the hospital. He has a long road ahead of him but he is alive.
Dan-O: Do you remember when Johhny Tapia asked Jim Gray to appologize to Pete Rose? Classic Tapia.
I do. Johnny was never one to not give his opinion.
Tarver might as well fight Lebedev next...Only fitting for the Russian to try and take out another 40+ fighter.
How about Lara-Molina? They can't rob both of them!!! @jinjtown
Molina already got robbed against Lara in a draw on ESPN2.
I got a kick out of Tarver arguing with his corner all night about what rounds he was winning.
That was more entertaining than some of the rounds.
What's the latest with Kelly Pavlik?
He fights on ESPN2 next Friday night in Vegas. I'll be at the fight.
Time for a BHop-Tarver rematch?
Please. The first fight stunk and BHop won EASILY. A rematch would be worse.
DTM, Any word on "Perro" I hear he is being held by immigration in Socal. To bad, could of made some good fights for some 154 pounders
Supposedly he is in custody. You wont see him fight for a long time.
Speaking of Holyfield, TMZ is reporting more money problems. Money problems = more fights.
Probably but his money issues are no secret.
Bradly seems to have the youth and energy on his side, but does he have enough skill to actually break Manny's defense, if he can survive Manny's offense?
I think so.
ANY NEWS FROM ISRAEL VAZQUEZ, WILL HE FIGHT AGAIN?
He is retired.
What are the chances of seeing a headbutt next week from Bradley?
What are the chances somebody sends in a comment to the chat that should get them banned?
Dan,How bout Love Child vs Canelo? Or popo vs Canelo? Which one would you prefer?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child. He's not getting Canelo and doesnt deserve the fight anyway. Popo? Also no chance.
Why is el Perro on custody?
Illegally came to the US multiple times.
Any chance we see a Ward/ Froch rematch?
Not any time soon.
Do you think Ike Ouartey would get any HOF consideration?? i remember him being one of my favorites, thought he was robbed v. De la hoya
He has no shot and he wasnt robbed vs Oscar.
Hi Dan did your cat get an extra treat tonight after Popo's big win?
Yes. Couple of extra furry mice to kick around the house.
Did you see the Powell fight last night,pretty good scrap
I saw it. Good performance from Rosado.
Also, how about Bika versus Froch?
Froch has bigger fish to fry. No money in that fight, no interst really.
Has Bradley been in a fight that has allowed for a serious reading on his chin?
He got dropped twice by Holt and survived to win.
I HATE THE TWEETS DURING ROUNDS ON SHOWTIME!!!!!!!
Who would you like to see Broner fight?
Great post of Tapia's interview of you by the way. Classic Tapia. RIP
Thanks. Really a bummer about what happened.
Is Berto a viable opponent for Canelo? He might move up for the right price
Umm, no. You know he funked a drug test right and will probably be punished?
DTM!!! Any word on What fight is replacin mitchelle vs Banks?
Dan - How much of a shot do you give Lopez against Victor Ortiz?
Where can I find the whole Holyfield vs Sherman Williams card?
Probably in a sewer somewhere.
Sergio martinez vs Chavez Jr is mandatory after their next fights, correct?
The wretched WBC changes its mind every 10 seconds on this fight. Who the hell knows?
When you do the ESPN fight in Vegas any chance of some of Saturday night's fighters being on hand? I love how many fighters show up to Vegas shows.
Do you give Lee a good chance against Chavez Jr.? Frankly, I think he should be the favorite. He's a southpaw, and more skilled boxer than Chavez Jr. with solid power.
Defintely give him a good chance.
What are the chances that Amir Khan fights Kell Brook?
Maybe down the road but a long way off.
How do you see the Bailey-Jones fight next week playing out?
Jones will outbox Bailey, who will win if he lands his fastball right hand on his chin.
YARD WORK INCARCERATION!!!!
Is Broner vs Escobedo a done deal yet?
Not 100 percent but that's the fight for July 21.
How surprised were you at Winky's performance. I think it's time to call it a day, but he wasn't embarrassed.
Wasnt surprised. He is 40 and hadnt fought in 3 1/2 years and was facing a good opponent.
Why after the emergence of Mares and Moreno is Donaire fighting somebody nobody has ever heard of?
Becuase he is with Top Rank and the others are with Golden Boy.
What would Tarver have to do to get into the HOF? He holds wins over Roy Jones and Glen Johnson. I agree he's not a HOFer but what if he beat Huck or Yoan Pablo Hernandez?
He's not going to face those guys so it's pointless. Tarver is/was an excellent fighter. But he is 43 and has 35 pro fights. He knocked out Roy for his only really big win. Sorry, beating Clinton Woods or Danny Green or even Glen Johnson doesnt make him a HOFer. And when he beat Roy, Roy was not in his prime and he had also lost to Roy in the previous fight. So Tarver: Terrific fighter, not HOF material to ME.
No clue why you blocked me on twitter?
I'm sure there was a reason.
Wait!? Who was tending the school while Winky was fighting?
Closed on the weekends. Dont worry.
I think the judges in Tarver fight were gamblers. Them and their sons!
Pay the man, Shirley!
Everyone please before sending I'm a question think about the top rank golden boy beef has been long-standing so if a fighter is with either or chances of them fighting??? About as good as we have of understanding what the hell lateef was talking about
hey dan what chance do you give geale in beating strum
I give him a good chance. He has won in Germany before and Sturm has been inconsistent in recent bouts -- looked horrible vs Mackin (lost in my view), a bit shaky against Murray and then very good vs Zbik. Which Sturm shows up?
Did you happen to take any pictures of the lovely Rachel cordingley while in Nottingham>?
Kayode translation just released: He glassed me! He glassed me! He glassed me! He glassed me!
Winky Wright's school of business has freshman orientation on Monday with an incoming class featuring James Krikland.
Where does De La Hoya vs Sturm rank on your list of biggest robberies in boxing history?
It doesnt. I thought Sturm edged it out but not THAT horrible of a decision compared to many others.
Omar Henry is asking for the Canelo fight. You think maybe he should've built up a name in the ring instead of trying to be a twitter celebrity for the past 2 plus years?
Dan, what next for Beibut Shumenov after his win?
what ever happened with peterson's hearing?
It is supposed to be in a couple of weeks.
I just enrolled into the Winky Wright School of Business. My Jim Gray interview was my orientation.
Dan, whats next for Steve "USS" Cunningham?
Nothing scheduled at the moment.
Even I had trouble figuring out what Kayode was sayin
PAY THE MAN, SHIRLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didnt know there was a RAD, just came happened to be browsing ESPN, sweet!!!!!
Any word if Paul Williams surgery went well? He is from my hometown and my thoughts go out to him.
From what I am told it went as it was supposed to go.
If Guerrero can beat Aydin (big if I know), is he a legit opponent for the big name welterweights?
LUIS - You would know if you were folling Dan on Twitter!!!!!!!!!!
Does Danny Jacobs still box?
He is recovering from cancer and should be back in action in October.
Was able to con my fiancee into watching the quadruple header by going to a baby shower. she fell asleep during the trout rodriguez fight
She got the better end of the bargain.
Looking forward to my upcoming students James Kirkland was impressive this week in his final exam to get in and lateef's interview skills excellent... Winky Wrights class of 2012
I had trouble understaning him too!
Dan, do you think that Felix Sturm is actually ducking Gennady Golovkin?
Here's my column on Floyd going to jail yesterday: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7996765/floyd-mayweather-jr-time-worry-come
Kirkland wants 2.5 million to fight canelo. Where can i get some of what he's smoking?
We respectfully decline Lateefs wishes to fight on HBO and would like to refer him to Rosetta Stone.
Best moment of all of the fights is when victor ortiz was called out on checking out the ring card girls
The Trout fight had half my body on the floor from my sofa...as I opened up my eyes, my wife was staring at me and she said "what happened, the fight is no good?"
Any word on Zab Judah's next move after getting ruled out of the Marquez fight?
Nothing at the moment.
Do you have regular conversation with any trainers? If so do they share how training camp is progressing?
Not even I would be able to get Lateef on HBO.
News from the Bat Email from Showtime Sports boss Stephen Espinoza regarding Kayode's ridiculous outburst after the fight. Stephen wrote to me: "Not only am I not doing a rematch, I told Kayode's people that he won't be on the network again. It's incredibly disrespectful to say that after he's received the benefit of our network. I wished him good luck with HBO."
So what the Showtime Sports boss is saying is Kayode now has no career....
Pretty much. Kayode wont be on HBO either. They havent done a cruiserweight fight, I think, since Toney-Jirov.
wow, there goes Kayode's tv career
Kayode has already responded to Stephen Espinoza: "kakdsfk adskfkajsdfk kadlsfadkdfk dkdk HBO, akdkladfjkfdj kasjkdfskdfs kdsasjdkf Showtime."
Had a lot of coffee to stay up for the fights and the RAD. Should have no trouble getting to sleep-- I'll just re-watch Trout/Rodriguez
Happy to see my teachings are paying off for Lateef!!
Stephan espinoza scores the biggest ko of the night
How long before you cover MMA full time?
HOw do u feel the promotion for Pacquiao/Bradley is going.....I here nothing about this fight.....24/7 has been a bore and Bradley's camp is doing all the promotional work during the episodes...
It's been a little quiet compared to other Pacquiao and Mayweather fights. Bradley is doing his part though, I give him credit for that.
Any chance of a Maliggnagi-Judah fight in Brooklyn? Seem like the obvious fight to open the new arena and an interesting fight as well.
Not sure but I'd like to see that.
Bradley-Alexander had a better build up and promotion than Bradley-Pacquiao has.
Even though his fight was a stinker, Trout seems like a really good kid.
Agreed. He is.
I really hate that Bradley got rewarded for ducking Khan.
That he did.
How many PPV buys do you think Pacquiao vs Bradley does?
Not nearly as many as Mayweather-Cotto.
Speaking of D. Alexander, saw him ringside tonight. Any word on whats next for him?
Aug 18 on Showtime vs TBA.
Your thoughts on Amir Khan vs Danny Garcia? I see an action-packed fight that could go either way!
I favor Khan but I think it will be an exciting fight.
no offense Dan, but Molina did too much holding against James for me to see him make a good fight vs Saul
What I wrote was that Molina should at least be on the list and mentioned as a possibility.
Maybe i shouldnt ask, but anyone knows if rocky juarez won???
He lost a wide decision, his sixth loss in a row. Time for Rocky to call it a day.
Any talk about Rosado getting the shot against Canelo on Sept. 15, with maybe Kirkland in December and Cotto next summer?
Only from Rosado's promoter, which is his job.
Dan, has this been one of the craziest weeks of boxing ever? Or just another day at the office for DTM?
It was a little crazier than usual but nothing I can't handle. :)
Could the Canelo fight be demoted to a regular HBO fight (as opposed to PPV) if a significant opponent isn't found?
First off, the fight is not with a network yet. Golden Boy is speaking to both HBO and Showtime. Second, Richard Schaefer told me the fight will be on PPV period.
just want to say RIP to Mr. Tapia!! He may have had his demons outside of the ring but at least he laid it all out in the ring. I think the newer generation of fighters should watch his tapes on how to perform in the ring!!
DTM, thanks for the responses on twitter...what do you think about Prenice Brewer calling Freddie Roach and Pac out after his loss last night??
I think Prenice should just spend more time working on his hair instead of speaking.
Johnny Tapia straight up radiated joy in the boxing ring! Much love to a great warrior!
After that long way back to the top couldn't believe Delvin Rodriguez didn't put forth a stronger effort.
Dan, do you think Lucian Bute should pick up his option on an immediate rematch with Carl Froch in CA?
No, I dont think he should take that rematch right away.
What do you think Floyd is doing right now?
Trying to sleep.
Middleweight division is really looking up...finally!
Some excellent fights on tap -- Chavez-Lee, Pirog-Golovkin, Geale-Sturm. All good.
Your excitement/anticipation of Pacquiao/Bradley, on a scale of 1-10?
The number of fighters sitting ringside seemed a little higher than normal
So many of them live and train in that area and are with Golden Boy, so no surprise at all.
Did you see Golovkin KO Bute in the amateurs?!
Yup. Great KO.
If Tarver continues to fight, what do you think of him and Toe?
No thanks. #toe
What do you think of a Vitali Klitschko Vs Tyson Fury match up?
I think at this point Vitali blows him away.
No chance of seeing Angulo in there vs. Canelo?
Golden Boy seems to be looking for quality opposition for Canelo. How about Canelo vs Margarito?
A) Margarito is not a quality opponent anymore. B) He is with Top Rank. C) He is injured.
With Showtime interviewing Canelo as aggressively as they were tonight about his Sept. 15 opponent, do you think GB leaning towards airing fight on Showtime PPV? You usually dont see Showtime & HBO interviewing fighters promoting upcoming shows on other networks
Canelo's fight is not on either network yet. He was there and there was a 154 title bout going on. Made sense to interview him.
Again, your responses to De la Hoya are hilarious. Something along the lines of "I have Kathy Duva's number, and I'll get it to you if you need it..."
I just answered the man's question.
If it were purely your decision who would you pick to fight Canelo, excluding James Kirkland because he's out
Obviously, I'd love to see him and Cotto, but that's not happening.
hey Dan, how did you score the fights tonight?
I had it a draw.
So Popo fight again or retire? Better way to go than the loss to Juan Diaz years ago.
Not sure. With such a dominant win and a KO maybe he will fight again.
Anybody can get their hair brushed! AmeriCANS, NigeriCANS, MexiCANS!
Thank you for reminding us.
For all of the expectations of the new heads of HBO and Showtime, It's been a pretty ugly year. They probably wanted to make a splash, but so far, they've missed the water.
I dont blame them. Is it Espinoza's fault that Berto got injured and then failed a drug test? Is it Hershman's fault that Gamboa bailed on the Rios fight? Is it Hershman's fault that Peterson flunked a drug test?
More potential upside Russell Jr. or Broner ?
Both enormous potential.
Dan, any word on the Shumenov fight?
He won a lopsided decision.
Canelo v Sergio Martinez @ 157 catch weight?!
I would imagine Sergio would jump at the chance but nobody is going to offer it to him.
not a great boxing card when the most memorable part of the evening was Classy Jimmy and his sunglasses in the opening bouts
LOL! Come on though, those glasses were SHARP! Not Lampley sharp, but SHARP!
Do the Klitschkos have fights scheduled?
Wlad fights a rematch with Tony Thompson July 7 on Epix. Vitali will probably fight in September.
Malignaggi lobbying for his homecoming defense and inaugural fight at our new arena to be against Dmitry Salita. your thoughts?
Makes sense because it would sell well but Salita is a club fighter who hasnt fought in forever and would have very little chance.
Perfect antidote to tonight's so-so fights = Pac-man v. Barrera I DVR'd from HBO today
Is there ANY chance Lara gets the Canelo fight?
I think there is a CHANCE. Not a great one but a chance.
Props to Canelo if he takes that fight, Danimal... Lara would be a nightmare stylistically...
I agree, which is why it probably wont be made.
OK, Fight Freaks, thanks for chatting into the wee hours after a long night of fights. Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend and I'll be back to chat next Friday from Las Vegas, where I will be covering Pacquiao-Bradley. Peace.