Greetings Fight Freaks, it's a bust fight weekend. There's FNF tonight with hot prospect Javier Fortuna vs Cristobal Cruz, the heavyweight championship of the world on tap Saturday afternoon on Epix with the rematch between Wladimir Klitschko and Tony Thompson and an HBO doubleheader with Donaire-Mathebula and Pavlik-Rosinsky. So there is plenty to discuss. Make sure to check out the schedule and a ton of news stories, blogs and features from the week. Let's get to it.
WIth Bute taking the rematch against Froch, and assuming their interim bouts will be against relatively easier opposition, do you think that sets up Pavlik vs. Kessler provided Pavlik takes care of Rosinsky on Saturday?
I think that is a very reasonable thought and it wouldn't surprise me. But, I'm not sure where that fight makes sense. Not sure Pavlik (or an American premium network) wants to go to Denmark and not sure there is a place in the US where it would really do big business at the gate. So it's a good idea but not sure how that will go.
Are we going to see a Pacman/Bradley 2?
Very good chance we will.
In your honest opinion, do you think Toney should be fighting Adamek?
Apparently you didn't read my column shredding the fight. http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8128803/why
Dan, Wondering if you could help me with something. I'm trying to find out if ESPN 3 will be showing the brook vs jones fight on July 7th. I heard that they were but not seeing it listed.
No, it isn't supposed to be on ESPN3. What I have been told is that ESPN does have the American rights and that most likely (and don't ask me to explain minute internal detail that I do not even entirely understand) the fight will eventually air on tape delay in a week or two on ESPN Deportes.
Dan, did you catch the Roy Jones fight? Besides being a yawner do you think it was a gift decision?
I watched it live and I thought the fight stunk AND Roy got a gift from the heavens.
Any update on Mike Alvarado?
Nothing specific but there's a chance he will be on the Martinez-Chavez Jr. PPV undercard on Sept. 15.
Dan, any word on how HBO and GB relationship is? I would think HBO does not like GB taking fighters they have invested heavily in over to Showtime.
I would term it as definitely strained.
What's your thought on tonights FNF card?
Fortuna is as dynamic a prospect as there is in boxing. Crazy speed and he has scored some absolutely spectacular knockouts. Cruz is older and smaller and slower. He's got experience but if Fortuna doesn't get too wild he wins handily in my view. But Cruz is the best opponent Fortuna will have fought so far.
Should we just rename Showtime "GBP Network"?
Well it sure ain't Shawtime anymore.
Who is taking the spot for Maidana for the Thurman fight?
TBA. Dont expect anything very good.
Will Epix eventually dabble in broadcasting non heavy weight/ cruiser weigt fights?
Epix has found a good niche with the heavyweight fights but has shown other bouts -- middleweight Felix Sturm vs Macklin, light heavyweight Cleverly for example. I'm sure that will continue.
Dan, I'm not sure boxing can wait for the young heavyweights to be "ready" for the Klitschkos. I say Mitchell, Pulev, Fury and Price --come on down and take your chances.
Here's my Klitschko-Thompson 2 feature: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8134584/wladimir-klitschko-expects-test-tony-thompson-boxing
Is Canelo any closer to having an opponent for Sept. 15th? If it's not going to be Bundrage or Lara, what credible oppnent is left?
Wish I had an answer.
Will EPIX be doing another free trial showing online of Klitschko/Thompson tomorrow?
Yes. You go here for the free trial (US only): http://epx.ms/dR64ml -- telecast begins at 4:30 pm ET. I'm headed to NY later today to work the broadcast with Bruce Beck and Freddie Roach. Chris Mannix is in Switzerland to provide interviews and features.
Is Javier Fortuna an elite prospect at featherweight?
Nice piece on James Toney. Real honesty in the article. Got me angry when I read the "I'm not a doctor" part.
Thanks. That did not sit well with me either.
Did you think that Lara was fighting dirty last weekend? That first head-butt thing was nuts but the second one that opened the bad cut seemed more accidental? Does he have a bad reputation?
He hasn't done those sorts of things in the past as far as I recall but he did fight a bit dirty. He has so much ability it is really not needed. Hope he wises up.
Any news on Dawson vs Ward tickets going on sale?
They are already on sale I believe. The official press conference to announce the fight is in Oakland on Monday.
Would you say Manny has become bored with the majority of his opponents or is he just on the decline or neither? The lateral movement, blinding combinations, and that extra gear all seem gone.
He has been in a slow decline in my view for the past few fights.
I'm really irritated with GBP handling of the Khan-Garcia & Guerrero-Aydin undercards! Just a week or two away and nobody knows anything. Am I seriously not going to get a cofeature on 7/28?
There will be a televised co-feature on July 28 but it isn't announced yet, which is weird. As for the Khan-Garcia undercard no idea. GB apparently is keeping it a secret.
I think Golden Boy is having 2nd thoughts about the 15th. They aren't going to draw 5000 people with Martinez v Chavez across town. Martinez v Chavez will draw 10-15,000. If they were smart they'd move the fight to Friday where they'll sell tickets and have TV viewers.
They have said they are going on Sept. 15 so I'll take them at their word.
Dan, do you think Martirosyan actually steps in the ring with Lara? He talks all sorts of trash on twitter but never steps up. I thought he lost to Kassim Ouma (miss seeing him) and he hasn't fought anybody else really. Lara will smoke him.
I think eventually neither side will ultimately make this fight.
Dan, GB just looks bad going forward on Sept.15 (it is their right) they have no big name and only a few credible opponents. All the spot light is going to be on Chavez-Martinez. They need to find an exit with dignity.
Many in this chat are sending in similar comments.
For GBP to still put Canelo on Sept 15th smacks of hubris, nothing more.
I can just see it now Jones-Toney 2
So Canelo vs Mayorga is not a done deal?
No, he isn't fighting Mayorga, at least not according to Mayorga's promoter, Don King. I spoke to his office yesterday and they said there were some conversations about the fight a few months ago but there has been nothing since, no offer, no nothing.
Your pick for Brook-Carson Jones?
I'm confused about the Ward/Dawson fight being on HBO. I thought SHO had 1 contracted fight left with Ward after the super six was done.
Showtime did not pick up its option.
Dan, on your Divisional rankings: Why do you keep Lamont Peterson and Andre Berto as number 1 and 3 when they both failed their drug tests? Are you waiting for the result of their appeals? If not, aren't you in some way rewarding them for cheating?
I am awaiting the results of any hearings. It's only fair.
Dan, only one fight on the Epix broadcast tomorrow?
Correct. Epix will also have next week's Chisora-Haye fight.
Yes/no this is the worst year of fights in a long time?
It's been overall crappy.
King Freak, got a Wlad-TT prediction you wanna' share?
I think Klitschko stops him again.
Hey Dan-O, Any word on P-Will?
He's in a rehab facility working hard.
Do you think Haye and Chisora will make up after the fight, and maybe go see the Katy Perry movie together?
Anything is possible. Maybe they'll come to my annual BBQ.
Bummer that Pirog is out. what do you think are the possible replacements (if any)? Would LOVE to see Quillen take that spot.
Huge bummer. I was really psyched for that fight. Quillin would have been a nice fight but not happening. Not sure who they are looking at.
Any chance of Alvarado -Prodnikov on the Chavez-Martinez undercard? That fight would be absolutely SICK.
Unlikely but that is a fight HBO has been interested in seeing Top Rank and Artie Pelullo put together for one of its telecasts.
Supposedly Arum has claimed that Espinoza basically informed him that he's persona non grata at Showtime because of the 9/15 - have you heard any confirmation of this?
Arum, Sampson and DiBella say they are not welcome. Showtime denies it.
Just think how dull the boxing year would've been if Epix hadn't picked up ANY of the fights this year...
Good point. Epix has had some very, very good fights.
What ever happened with JCC jr's DUI case?
He did a plea deal.
Dan, I will bring the glasses to the BBQ
Any update on Helenius? He has been out since Dec. 2011.
Shoulder injury and was not expected back until at least the fall.
Dan, what are your thoughts on the racist and anti Pakistani comments by Danny Garcia's dad, Angel that came out this week?
Ignorant and stupid comments from a guy who I know to be a good guy.
Hey Dan! Wouldn't Bute-Pavlik and Froch-Kessler II make much more sense instead of Kessler-Pavlik?
Of course, but Bute and Froch have a rematch on deck. Not sure they are going to put it at such risk.
I give it another week before Canelo comes up with a training "injury" making it impossible to go on 9/15....
I like what Espinoza has done with the Sho Extreme, more fights, etc but the fact that he is just a GBP crony undermines all of it
I love the Extreme stuff. As far as the promoters involved, I couldnt care less which promoters get the dates as long as they all have a shot to get the dates and we get the best possible fights.
Sounds like Holyfield has FINALLY softened his decade-plus stance of not retiring until he's undisputed champion. Do you think he's going to sucker one of the Klitschkos into giving him a title shot in the next year, though?
Repeat after me: Holyfield has 1000000000% zero chance of getting a title fight with Klitschko.
DTM, can you please give me your thoughts on Broner? Some of my friends think he's a hyped up kid that won't be in the top 10 in 2 years, while other friends think he'll be the top pound for pound fighter in 2 years. PLEASE SHED SOME LIGHT AND SETTLE THIS ARGUMENT!!!
I think he has the POTENTIAL to be the best fighter in the world pound for pound.
DTM, I know you already posted a few comments about the Toney fight, but I'd like to add, that when I was a kid and Toney was a middleweight and supermiddle he was AMAZING, and he never ducked anyone. His fight against Jirov at cruiser was a classic. Thats why the Lebedev fight and this upcoming fight are so PAINFULL to watch. Just horrible
From what you've seen of Manuel Charr, is the guy a live underdog?
Not really. I think it's a destruction.
Did you hear about David Price being dropped from sky? makes no sense considering the time they spent commercializing him
I did hear about that and am not really sure why.
If Bute were to somehow win the rematch in Montreal, it would set up one of the more exciting trilogies we've seen in recent years.
Good possibility although I would not consider the first fight a classic since it was so one-sided, although it was one of the greatest atmospheres I've ever been in for a fight.
I used to not take any credit away from fighters who have stayed well pasted their prime but Roy Jones is almost leaving us no choice
Why do comment on other sports in your twitter account?
You know, because it's MY account and I comment on what I want to comment about.
Assuming Wlad drills TT tomorrow? Who could Wlad fight later this year with Arreola off the table? Chisora if he wins?
Dude let's talk Clottey. Good fighter. One horrible fight against Pac. Otherwise a strong dude, great D and really decent when he lets his hands go. Why not him for Canelo? If not then, when is Clottey going to start fighting regularly again?
You mentioned in Ringtones Price, Jennings, Fury maybe being who the Klitschkos fight next. Which of the three is most ready?
I dont really think any are ready but the most advanced so far based on competition faced is Fury.
GOT, Picks for tomorrow's HBO card....and thanks!!
Donaire and Pavlik. Dont see any upset specials this week but I do think Mathebula, with his height, might give Donaire a problem or two.
Have you heard the new Kiss single yet ?
Yes. Like it, dont love it. First 30 seconds sounds like a repeat of their song All-American Man.
Very much looking forward to 2 Days: Adrien Broner tomorrow night. I think he is hilarious.
Agreed. I will watch with my brush in hand.
Agreed. I will watch with my brush in hand.
How about that September 8, eh? That is one busy boxing night!
I plan to be in Oakland.
Cool if I bring Roast Duck and TOE-fu to the BBQ?
Any updates on Mayweather Vs. tap water?
Mayweather still upset, water is still wet.
When is Floyd likely to be released, assuming good behaviour?
In early August.
Lucas Mattyshee underneath Bailey-Alexander?!
I've heard that is a possibility. Matthysse is welcome on my TV any time.
So is Erik Morales retired again or does he have another fight in him ?
He has not announced his retirement and I believe he will fight again but he has nothing lined up.
Just watching some old Pernell Whitaker bouts on YouTube. At their absolute peak, was Sweet Pea or Money better?
Both great fighters at their peak but I would have to give the slight nod to Mayweather because he is a more well-rounded fighter. He had defenses that was incredible, almost as good as Whitaker's but Mayweather has a better offense.
What si the latest on Povetkin? Is that Rahman fight off permanently?
Postponed at this point. No new date set.
Broner and Gamoa would be sick.
Canelo vs Love Child. whats the hold up ?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child.
I'm kinda surprised Devon Alexander took the Bailey fight. His defense isn't all that tight and his chin isn't rock solid either (thank Matthysse). I'm going on a limb and saying Bailey by another late KO.
Alexander is going to toy with Bailey. TOYAGE.
Why has the Eric Morales v. JM Marquez never materialized over the years? Seems like a natural fight between two warriors that have never ducked an opponent....
If you read my on any regular basis, you know I have wanted to see that fight for YEARS. For various reasons it has not happened. I would still like to see it.
lets not be naive. You KNOW floyd is getting special treatment in the jail. I dont care what his lawyer says.
He's locked down 23 hours a day. Nothing special about that.
I saw Vitali was involved in a clash at a protest, do you know if he got hurt or in anyway jeopardize his next fight?
He was not injured to any extent that his fight would be off. Nothing serious at all from what they say.
Not tempted to check out the huge UFC fight tomorrow night?
Not at all. Besides, I will be on a train on my way home from NYC after the Klitschko-Thompson Epix telecast.
Even though he lost to Matthysse, I would still like to see Humberto Soto face either Marquez or Morales. I've always felt he was the fifth guy behind Pac/JMM/MAB/Morales.
Not bad, but I doubt we'll see that.
Since we all can agree the Floyd-Pac fight will never happen can you now give us your prediction on who you think would have won ?
It ain't over til it's over.
Dan, if they made the Mike Tyson-George Foreman fight in the early 90s, who do you think would have won.
Foreman by brutal KO.
Do you think JMM would consider fighting the winner of Khan/Garcia?
Doubtful. Gotta remember the promotional situation.
What was up with bundrage/spinks scoring. This judging problem just keeps happening. Good for K9 to get.the KO but come on.
Terrible scoring. I could see MAYBE Spinks slightly close even though I thought it was onesided. But I see NO way you could actually have Spinks ahead, which two judges did.
Is it true Omar Figueroa has been added to the July 21st HBO telecast making it a triple-headear?
Yes, but his opponent is TBA. It is rather ridiculous to have Thurman and Figueroa on that televised card with no opponents lined up when they are barely eight-round fighters.
Nice ESPN card tonight. Thoughts on Abdusalamov-Byram?
Quite interested in that fight. Byarm gave a good account of himself vs Jennings in January. And Abdus is an interesting heavyweight prospect -- a southpaw with power.
I cant wait for the Haye-Chisora fight, styles should blend well for a classic!
Could you do us Freaks a favor? Write the article on who you think would win between Pac and Mayweather, put it in a envelope with instructions to be released just in case you die unexpectedly?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pay the man, Shirley!
In Mayweather Vs Tap water i had it 115-113 Tap waterI mean Tap water was just all over Floyd. I dont care if Tap water doesnt have arms, he was the most aggressive fighter out there.
Dan, your opinion of Brook? The Brits seem to be high on him. But they're high on all their guys...
Good lower top-10 contender right now. Room for improvement.
Speaking of Spinks scoring, I'm curious if you had him winning against Jermain Taylor like some did.
No. I was at that fight and he barely threw any punches the entire fight and anything he landed did zero damage. No way he was winning that fight.
DTM, is LINSANITY leaving the Big Apple?!
No way. Knicks will match.
do you know when Epix next on-site broadcast will be? Loved the first one.
No idea. When they tell me we're going on the road, we're going on the road. We did have an absolute blast doing the fight in May in Nottingham, England. Was an amazing experience.
It ain't over, especially if mayweather has access to this chat and has heard you say you thought Manny was in slow decline. that is just what mayweather needed to hear...we can expect the fight in May, 2014.
Just wanted to give the FNF crew props for showing those judges' camera angles. It really gave the fans a bit of perspective and helped me understand (to some degree) some of the horrible scorecards I've seen over the years.
That was pretty cool. Very nice touch I thought to last week's show.
Speaking of Jermain Taylor, anything lined up for him? He has looked awful in his comeback. How he goes back on the shelf. For good this time.
Nothing at the moment, but I'm told he'll probably do something in the fall.
Is Shane Camerons KO of Barret an contender for KO of the year? Monte was OUT!
That was a pretty sick KO but not KO of the year as far as I am concerned.
Dan Alexander vs Khan in the future? I would like to see those to very similar styles
I could certainly see that fight happening at some point.
Tap Water also showed great Cell generalship...I also had i1 115-113 TW.
What is more past-their-prime: Jason Kidd, James Toney, or toe jokes?
Toney. Kidd can still play some. Toe jokes toe-tally never get old.
Espinoza was quoted as saying "Top Rank screwed us" on the Sept. 15 conflict. That is just ridiculous. Top Rank and HBO have a right to do whatever they want even though it didn't sit well with the fans, plus Espinoza sounding too much like a GBP employee. Don't they remember they counterprogammed the Cotto-Margarito II PPV with a free Showtime card? Now that Top Rank does it to them they cry foul.
Just saw a top 10 of boxing press conferences. Were you at any of them?
Dont know where you saw that so I have no idea.
Does espn require you to have a twitter?
No although once we do there are certain rules that must be followed.
Buy or sell: Klitschko wearing the same burgundy trunks, and coming to the ring to the same Red Hot Chili Peppers song?
By the way, I'll be on SportsCenter at 3:45 pm ET talking about Klitschko's title defense.
50 cent was in a recently in a small car crash. Any word on how he is recovering?
Ask TMZ. I cover boxing.
Dan, do you think Mattyshee was robbed in his two defeats? I sure do!
Nope. I thought he lost both fights very closely.
Thought the first Thompson fight was actually competitive at times. I know you picked Wvlad but do you give Tony any chance?
Sure. He's a big man with nothing to lose and is supposedly healthy. He knows this is his last chance.
What do you think of an Arthur Abraham vs. Kelly Pavlik fight?
Bring it on, for old times sake.
I thought Mattyshe beat Judah by a point but lost by a point to Alexander. Close fights, not robberies.
By the way, check out my boxing Facebook page if you dont do Twitter: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dan-Rafael-ESPN/320596341293700
I heard 50 cent crashed because his eyes were filled with tears that he was then going to bottle and send to floyd so he could avoid the tap water.
That is the problem with Wlad. It isn't that he is boring. It is that each fight of his is absolutely indistinguishable from the other.
Dominance. Not his fault.
Haye can also bring some toe-sted marshmallows to the bbq
DTM - Are you going to the Olympics?
Duane Ford will not be attending this year's Rafael BBQ as he believes that he could give you a BBQ hosting lesson.
Pac and May are the two best known fighters. You are probably one of the better known boxing writers. As with them, people look for reasons to hate you.
Yup. Goes with the territory.
Participating in this boxing chat is my ROCKY MOMENT!
Dan, would introducing a fourth scorecard from a judge that is watching a telecast with no commentary or replays possibly help decisions?
No because it would make draws even more common.
Sir Dan, any word on if Tarver will be back on Showtime as an announcer, this does put them in a touchy position doesn't it?
No announcement on that front at this time.
DTM, how is Pepper Roach doing these days?
Freddie mentioned to me not too long ago that he was doing much better, on the road to recovery.
Any updates on Andre Dirrell?
He said he will face Stevenson Aug 11 in the eliminator. So if they dont make a deal there's a purse bid in week or so. Let's see if he shows up.
Any rumblings DE LA HOYA himself is going to step up Sept. 15 and fight Canelo??! Oscar's quotes about being "historic night" are interesting.
No. And I dont think that would happen. No credibility to the fight because Oscar talks about how he's taken him under his wing. Would be bad perception of such a fight. I've heard people say well Oscar could just throw the fight to help his company in the future, etc.. Now I dont think Oscar would ever do that but it's not good that folks even think about that sort of thing. Just not going to happen.
why do so many fighters have tax problems?
They dont pay their taxes.
What's next for mikey garcia?
Probably going to fight on Salido's next undercard on July 28 and then fight him in the fall. Here's the blog I did a few days ago on it: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/1402/mikey-garcia-in-salidos-plans
Tap Water Vs. Pacquiao will never happen because Tap Water is asking for a 60-40 split.
I wouldn't mind a 4th judge watching telecast with no sound to break a tie in championship fights.
Interesting but what would make their scorecard any more legit than the other three?
Why isn't Lara ever mentioned for the Canelo fight?
That's a question for Golden Boy.
in an unrelated note, in addition to following this chat, I am also listening to Wimbledon radio, and for what it's worth, tennis is not a very radio-friendly sport.
They put tennis on the radio? Damn! I'd rather watch soccer I think.
Greetings Dan and Happy Friday!! If you were to create a Mount Rushmore with your favorite WWF/WWE wrestlers, who would they be?
Snuka, Hogan, Undertaker, HBK.
Instead of fighting, Toney, Rios, JL Castillo, and Bowe should just have their own Nathan's contest.
whats next for Cotto? the obvious decline but he did have a great showing vs mayweather
Probably will fight in December but opponent and specifics sure are not set. It wouldnt shock me if he fought Mayweather again.
Now that Ioka is moving up how do you think he would do vs Roman Gonzales ?
Would love to see that kind of fight. There are some very nice fights to make in the little weight classes but they so rarely happen.
Any truth to the rumor Donaire is submitting to year-round VADA testing?
Not a rumor. Read my story from the other day: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/1409/donaire-embraces-random-testing
I wouldn't count Cotto out yet. I could definitely see him fighting Canelo and having a very good chance of winning.
Cotto's team have said he is not fighting in September.
Muhammad Ali may or may not be fit to fight. I mean, I'm not a doctor.
Now that Darchinyan is going to be fighting prospects on HBO, is it safe to say he's done as a title challenger (unless he goes back to 115 and takes an easy one)?
Depends what happens in his next fight. If he scores a nice win over a quality prospect at 122 it wouldn't shock me to see him get another shot at 118 since he has a good name.
Do you believe Pavlik when he says he was toying with Sigmon (instead of being tired and unable to finish him earlier)? thanks.
3 things -- he did finish him and, yes, to a degree, he was working on stuff and Sigmon took a great shot.
I thought the leadership change at HBO would make more interesting fights. If you were looking just at the fights, no one would know a change took place.
You said it, not me.
Great job on the Toney piece. You didn't pull any punches and showed articulate passion. Shame on Main Events...
After the Bradley-Pacqiao fight, Jim Lampley said Harold Lederman is the best boxing scorer alive. Do you agree?
Harold is certainly one of the best judges ever in my view. Very rarely does he blow one. I have the UTMOST respect for his judging.
Dan, it seems like Bhop has disappeared. Have you heard from him lately?
He fought not too long ago and is, hopefully, kicking back and enjoying his summer.
josesito lopez. lucky win, or a potential real contender?
Nothing "lucky" about it. He fought his rear end off and is definitely a contender.
Dan (ah-aahhhh, he's gonna save us all!) if Adamek needs to stay in shape beating on Toney, so be it, but please tell me Duva isn't going to ruin her NBC contract by airing that one?
Whomever Adamek fights on Sept. 8 the fight was never planned for an NBC Sports Net card. It is a PPV in Poland. There is no US TV at this point.
Harold did have John-John Molina beating De La Hoya.
If you can only pick out one card from 25 years of scoring major fights and you pick one that was a legitimately close fight, that's a pretty good track record in my book.
Dan,I think you're on to something regarding Toney's fight with Adamek. Tomas is a grinder with thudding power that Toney will absorb for a long period of time but which ultimately do more long term damage. JAMES PLEASE STOP.....you were arguably the best of your time but it's over.
By the way -- for the 9 people out there who get Wealth TV, they are showing the Tyson Fury-Vinny Maddalone fight from England on Saturday afternoon in the US.
Does Harold get to see replays or factor Compubox into his judging?
No. In fact, Harold watches the fight without a headset on so he doesnt listen to the commentary. He puts his headset on only when he needs to speak every couple of rounds.
the Love Child?????
Rewatched Pac-Bradley for the 5th time, and am still in disbelief. If Manny took the 1st 2 minutes off of most rounds (which he did), I still didn't see Bradley do anything in those 2 minutes. How can you give a #boxinglesson when you have a lower connect percentage and don't throw power shots, Duane Ford makes me sick.
Dan I need a ride to the store. I can call a friend or two but I think instead I'll call my legally blind 80 year old uncle. He still has a license. I know it's wrong and perhaps dangerous but " I can't make those judgments. "I'm not a doctor."
Who could you understand more, Toney speaking English, or Adamek speaking Polish?
A reasonable question.
BTW....Lamps glasses still look awful.....just sayin'
what college did you go to?
Hey Dan, any update on who and when Donovan George will fight next?
He'll be on the Aug 11 undercard in Montreal and if Dirrell doesnt wind up fighting Stevenson, George will move into the co-feature and face him in the eliminator.
How did you have Jones/Tarver 1 scored?
Close win for Jones.
When is the BBQ this year??
Why, what are you bringing?
where do you rank Orlando Salido ?
The rankings are updated every week: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=6402207
Harold has stated publicly that he gives the round to the fighter that "did the most damage". I.E. connected with the hardest punches. Do you score that way or favor who had the most clean connects ?
Damage is what counts more than anything in my book. It's professional boxing, not amateurs.
Dan I'll bring some Toe-Mato salad
Is Cory Spinks bringing some chicken legs to the BBQ?
Are there people who agree with me that Gary Russell Jr. potential is overblown and kind of limited due to his lack of reach?
When you have that kind of speed and solid power plus massive amateur experience and ring smarts you can overcome shorter arms.
The Top Rank-GBP fued is turning boxing into the WWF-WCW days of wrestling! So many in-house fights this year
Will RJJ be comentating Donaire's fight on HBO saturday?
the fact that Tony Thompson is a number one contender (again) tells the world all they need to know about the boxing commisions.
First of all it's not a commission, it's the IBF. Second, Tony is a legit contender. He has won five in a row since the loss to Klitschko four years ago. It's a weak division. I'm not saying he should be mandatory. I'm saying he's a legit top 10 contender in today's division.
DTM. Is what is currently happening to Roy Jones Jr. right now the single most pathetic, extended decline of a once-great career you have witnessed in your boxing lifetime? It certainly is for me.
It is quite horrible.
Bad decisions, bad drug tests, and injuries causing fight delays and cancellations can the sweet science catch a break?
I'll bring some jawbreakers for dessert!!
I heard Floyd SR. was invited to the BBQ but he stopped off at Taco Bell instead
Although obscure and irrelevant, Shane Cameron?s KO of Monte Barrett has got to rate a mention in your Kos of the yearhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKN5FqVMNhI#t=0m29s
Was a great KO. I watched it the other day.
Nice! I do get Wealth TV. I paid for one month ($.99) to watch a cruiserweight fight and then cancelled, and they never actually cancelled my feed (and I am not being charged)!
Cool. Record the show on a DVD and send it to me please.
Tony Thompson is a hell of a lot better than Manuel Charr.
DTM and Kornheiser? Binghamton must be proud!
Exactly. And Paul Reiser and Billy Baldwin!
Okay, so Kathy Duva is not a doctor, but there are real doctors who do the prefight medical examinations. How the hell does Toney keep passing the exams when his speech is so blatently messed up? For God's sake you don't even need to be a doctor to know theres a problem.
Agree or disagree: Victor Ortiz has carved out a niche as one of the most entertaining fighters out there -- even if he doesn't win.
100 percent agree. Brings drama evrery time, win or lose.
Now that TB has offically surrendered his 140lb strap are you going to rank him at 147? If so, where?
Look at this week's ratings. I moved him into the 147 rankings after he declared he was leaving 140 for good.
Are there any serious talks for Moreno-Mares? Should be an easy since both are with GB
Not that I am aware of.
True or False: You've purchased products from Victor Ortiz's new skin care line.
I can neither confirm nor deny.
got two laptops running as Klit-Thompson is on Epix and Fury-Maddalone is available at WealthTv.com....both FREE and on at relatively the same time
Good man. That's a Fight Freak.
Why is the expected crowd for Khan-Garcia?
Dan, your bbq will be the perfect excuse for me not to make weight
Dan what do you think of the just announced prospect lineup HBO is doing at Foxwoods on Sept 29?
I like it overall. Not an overly expensive card, honoring a committment it had due to the canceled prospect series and the fights DiBella is putting on are all interesting to one degree or another.
Surprised Michael Buffer is doing the Chisora fight instead of Khan-Garcia. Does he have a contract with HBO or does he go where he is offered the most money?
$$$$. Michael is an independent contractor.
I've noticed no mention anywhere in this chat about the great news for the sport of boxing this week - the extension of the Main Events & NBC Sports contract. Any reason for that? Personal prejudice? You don't think its that big-a-deal? You disagree with the set up? What's the reason? This should be promoted heavily and a big kudos should be given, not only to Kathy Duva, but to NBC for taking a chance, and producing quality work,
Ummm, because you are literally the first one to mention it. So relax son. If you paid attention instead of being a tool you'd see I wrote an extensive piece on it when it was announced: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/1391/fight-night-deal-a-win-for-boxing
I may be in the minority but I think Chavez jr will upset Martinez with youth, chin, & body punching....I think Roach will prepare him well
I've heard a few people with that same take.
I have always been amazed at the amount of people who come on to blast your work but do not read your blog entries first, your have praised the NBC thing from the beginning
Because they are idiots.
I mean this chat. Of course I read your work. But no mention of it today
Nobody brought it up.
Chavez-Martinez does 500k PPV buys, buy or sell?
I'm not sure it does THAT much but with a good promotion and everything falling into place I think it's POSSIBLE.
Who is Paulie going to fight at Barclays?
Not determined yet.
Not determined yet.
Luckily, I don't have a fight coming up or I would have to go Vegan for the BBQ
Is Jimmy Lennon Jr. really as classy as they say?
100 percent. Great guy.
How much sense wouldn't Paulie-Judah make? That would be a gift to Brooklyn fight fans.
I agree. Would be a big fight in NY. I really hope that does happen and soon.
Do you smell that! You'll smell that! I smell......................Dan's BBQ
Are you going to use a George Foreman grill at your BBQ?
I'll be drinking pee at the BBQ
Like every year.
Let's all hope mayorga doesn't get the Canelo fight
Dan, I think manny fighting at 147 has taken its toll on his body. Do you think he would come down to 140 to fight the top guys there. I think there are some better match ups there.
You could be right. The most attractive recent fights for him have been at 147 but he could make 140 if he wanted to. And there are some good fighters in that weight class, but also hard fights to make.
Were you a fan of Haye's before he moved up to heavyweight? I know you covered his covered his career from the start.
Very much so.
Dan, I'll be at the BBQ on two conditions: 1. you make sure that the BBQ is wheelchair accessible, and 2. i get to bring my favorite vegetable of all time - that's right, a "head" of lettuce.
Dan, have you ever met Al Haymon? Whats his deal? How is he able to negotiate such great deals for his fighters?
I have met Al many times and talked to him many times both in person and on the telephone. As for the secrets of his success, couldn't really tell you but he is a very smart dude.
Any info on Y.P. Hernandez and Troy Ross? I was a big fan of Ross on The Contender, and it would be great to see him get a belt and some bigger paydays.
I asked Sauerland Event about that not too long ago and was told they hope to put it on this fall, maybe in September. Summer is usually dead in Europe, especially most of July and August, especially this year with the Olympics beginning shortly.
Hey Dan, will you be serving some testosterone at BBQ
Who will be youre epix co-commentator for the chisora fight ?
Team will be Bruce Beck, me and Sugar Ray Leonard (who will be filling in for Freddie, who has Khan fighting the same day).
**** yeah, I want some ******* BBQ!
Will there be a treadmill at the BBQ? My calves are tightening just thinking about it.
From reading the story of Vitali getting sprayed with the tear gas, it sounds like that is the most damage he has taken in years.
dan any idea where the alexender-bailey fight will be???
TBA at the moment.
What's the story on Alex Ariza? Is he still JCC Jr's trainer? He left the Pacquiao and Khan camp early to go train Chavez only to get banned?
Correct. No longer with Chavez or Khan.
What's next for Abner Mares?
There was some talk about an August fight in Mexico but that is off so not sure what is next for him right now.
Besides this afternoon's 3:45 ET SportsCenter, I'll also be on FNF tonigt as well on ESPN2.
Hey Dan, just bought tickets to see Glen Johnson fight out here in Chicago next week. How come we don't get as many fights out here? We have decent venues and the freaks are deep out here.....
Everything is in cycles. Chicago is a good fight town but not much action lately. Not sure what is up with that.
Dan, is this BBQ at your house or do we need to construct something outside to hold all these people?
Yo Dan, I'll attend your bbq for $1 million.
Juts watched Rigondeaux's destruction of Teon Kennedy. Granted it was Teon Kennedy, but Rigo is a pound-for-pounder if he gets the right opportunities (which he may not).
He's very, very good but let's not get overly hyped over the Teon Kennedy fight. That was exactly what was supposed to happen. It was a Major Leaguer vs a decent Triple A guy.
Even with some injuries the Yankees are in 1st place....all good in yankee land....28th World Series title on the way !!!
I'll be talked about much but not seen at the BBQ.
No bbq chat will ever top the original. Still fun but the first had me rolling!
First was one was epic.
If I was 50 years younger I would come to the BBQ
You can still come.
Dan - are you legitimately excited for the Klitschko v Thompson fight? Sounds like a bunch of unwarranted hype for a fight that will probably end like the first one did.
Not hype. How is it hype? The heavyweight champion is fighting a competent top 10 opponent. It's not the best fight ever obviously. Not a horrible fight. And you never know what is going to happen. It's a lot better than the Mormeck fight that is for sure. It's the day before the biggest fight of the weekend so it is getting a little attention.
I'm requesting the judge postpone my due date due to the ammount of BBQ I will bring to Dan's BBQ
Did Showtime regret the Super Six? I've found it strange and disappointing they didn't seem to want to capitalize on it, for instance by picking up Ward's option or showing Bute-Froch.
There was a change in management in the sports department. That is why that happened. New guy, new ideas.
Dan, save me some ajodjadhwjnnoooaajieiioa, but no HBO.
Who would win Ioka or Gonazlez in your opinion Dan?? I am a big fan of the lighter weight fighters...so many great fights not on HBO or Showtime...
Ioka but that was a damn good fight.
How many hot dogs did you eat on 4th of July dan?
DAN, At your bbq there will be only one Ricky Hatton.
Is Issac Chilemba a legit contender?
Not quite yet a serious contender but a very good up and coming guy who is maybe one or two wins from that level.
I GOT KNOCKED DOWN, BUT I STILL MADE IT TO THE BBQ!!!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME!!!!
Dan - Are you sure you want to have a BBQ? Golden Boy said they called dibs on today for a BBQ. Plus they have one every year on this day
No hype? So ESPN hasn't been posting articles throughout the week about this snoozer of a fight? I would call that hyping it up - constant articles and comments by you about how great it's going to be. Sounds like a conflict of interest due to your connection with Epix. Fight freaks aren't that interested in this fight - period.
LOL. There has been exactly one article on the fight and one Ringtones video. In fact, we've had a lot more coverage of the HBO card. These are facts, not your fantasy. I'd like you to point out where I ever said it would be "great." The fact that I call fights for Epix is a well known fact that I do not hide.
Dan, would prefer if you cooked my veggie burger separate from the rest
Can you make sure Carl Froch's BBQ Invitation already has the +1 checked off?
I saw Roy Jones Jr whooped in a game of horse shoes at your BBQ but was somehow still declared the winner......
What's Don King like in person?
Interesting. Amusing. Tireless. Bombastic. Funny. Smart. Rich.
Hey Dan, I had 5 international judges re-score your BBQ. Yours is still the WINNER!
Someone's gonna need to call my dad to pick me up when the BBQ'S over.
What ever happened to Calvin Brock?
He retired because of an eye injury.
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