Hey everyone! Welcome to Day 2. Players are in the room and play is about to get started. Send in your questions!
No write ups from Bernard on his day 1 experience? Also what about Allen Kessler's tweet regarding chips being carried in the hallways (presumably worried about people selling chips?)
Bernard had a great Day 1. He'll write up something at the end, but he needed to focus yesterday...He begins Day 2 with 97K
will online poker ever be regulated in the US again? (on a larger scale like it used to be)
Yes. It will be. When is the real question.
Andrew - thanks for all the great work! Any update on what % Antonio had of himself when he won the One Drop? What about Trickett?
I asked both yesterday and neither wanted to comment on it. No surprise there although I wonder how the tax situation plays out...
Cards in the air!
Will the 1A and 1B survivors stay separated throughout Day 2, or will they combine later in the day?
They stay separated. Amazon (1A) will stay in Amazon. Pavilion (1B) will break into Brasilia
Pius Hienz starts day 2A with approximately 40,000, what's your line on whether he will make it to day 3?
I think he makes it and I think he ends the day with about 150K. He got into a groove at the end of Day 1 and if he gets a table that gives him some respect, he'll be able to accumulate chips easily. He didn't have that option on Saturday.
Auto update on please
What does that mean? A couple of you have posted this...
Why is the min cash in most tournaments less than 2x the buy-in plus fees? I know they want to pay top 10%. But the ME min cash should be $21,000, not $19K, in my opinion. A person should break even if he cashes in a tournament and then busts early in the same tournament the next time around. Selbst said she min cashed in a Heads Up Event and made $900.00 for a $10k. That's just not right.
The heads-up event min-cash was just a very weird decision. For the $10k buy-in, players won $10,966 if they just made the money. It made no sense at all. As for this event, they always state that they try to give more money back at the lower levels, but I agree with you that players should at least double their money if they are able to make it through nearly 6K players. 21K seems reasonable.
Hi Andrew, any ME and overall WSOP updates on Scotty Nguyen this year
He gone. Milked a short stack for most of Day 1B but was eliminated late in the night.
Any interesting table draws that stand out today?
I like the Adam Levy/Erick Lindgren matchup early. I haven't been able to walk around yet and see who else is together.
Working on the auto-update thing guys....sorry
What odds are you laying that Ivey makes it to Day 3?
He has about 20 big blinds heading into tomorrow. Probably gets it in for a flip during the first hour...then he has to actually make it through the day...so...7:1?
I know Im probably going to get killed for asking this question, but should the online players who broke the law by playing be obligated to have their funds returned to them? I understand that any company that purchases Poker Stars needs to return the money in order to ensure getting good business going forward in the poker community (imagine if they just acted as if the debt did not exist to the players). At the same time, if I had participated in an illegal activity, why would I boast that I was entitled to have money returned to me that was part of the illegal activity?
Actually, it's not a bad question at all. It was never illegal for you to play, it was illegal for the site to process the money in that fashion. So technically, the players never broke the law. I think that if players money is returned, they need to make sure that all their taxes and financial items are handled properly.
Was just going to ask about Lindgren. Didn't sound like he was playing too many events. Any reason why?
Erick was the center of a little drama during 2012 and the assumption is that his finances haven't really been stable. I don't think there has been any resolution to that at this point.
Has the ME lost it's luster? It seems like the pros would rather win the 50k Players Championship.
No way. While Grinder was thrilled to have won the 50K twice, he told me that he just wants to win the main. No matter what other tournaments come in line, the main event will always be the one that the players want to win most.
So how do you feel about the attendance ? Main Event #'s down slightly from last year, but total prize pool across all events is the highest its ever been. What does this tell us about the state of Poker in the USA ?
Love the main event turnout. Listen, I know it's a down number, but as I said on the podcast: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8146599, there are NO PokerStars qualifiers this year. Think about how many players they've put in over the past decade year after year. This year, I believe that number is eight. So, no online satellite winners and a relatively flat turnout. Huge win for the WSOP.
Hey, just curious, since Lederer and Ferguson can't show their faces particularly at the WSOP, do they still play poker that you know of?
I can't imagine that they will step foot in any cardrooms anytime soon. They might have private games, but you know that if they start playing publicly before the whole situation is resolved, they will not enjoy their experience.
Think online sites up and running in US for next years ME? Would really boost the numbers
Yes. I'd expect to see WSOP.com operating in Nevada, NJ and Delaware and awarding satellites next year.
What about those that say the WSOP ME is raked too heavily?
I see their point and its very understandable why the players aren't happy. The WSOP is a business and it's operating in that fashion.
There are really NO PokerStars qualifiers? Not even international qualifiers?
Hasn't the ME, in some ways, become little more than just navigating the minefield that consists of 60% bad players/luckboxes? How many consecutive flips does the winner of the ME have to win? 25? 30? More? I find that the preliminary events are a far better indicator of who the geuinely great players are.
I'd say to win the main you need to win 10 flips. Obviously getting your money in better than that is the goal. I think the field is tougher this year with fewer amateurs than the past few years. Prelims are a great way to measure the best and thats why we really need to always refer to the WSOP POY leaderboard when discussing this sort of stuff.
hows Anton Makiievskyi doing this year?
Honestly haven't seen him. Didn't even see him on the WSOP list yesterday.
Andrew, with so many hands being played at the ME it seems like every year we hear about something nutty like quads-over-quads. What was the craziest hand you heard about from the three Day 1s?
There were a bunch that happened yesterday, but none better than the guy calling an all-in with 9-9 after his opponent exposed a 10 on a 10-high board. I don't know if he misheard the action or if he thought he was already all-in...but that's just entertaining.
Have you noticed the weird phenomenon of no WSOP ME winner taking down a second bracelet since Carlos Mortensen in 2001? Yet other final tablers (Jarvis, Buchman, Schwartz, Montgomery, Barch) have tasted victory. Just odd.
It's hard to win once you are a main event champion. Your game is exposed, your face is on the wall, people want to bust you. Cada and Eastgate came close this year, and I'll take those two and add in Duhamel for a third as the ones that will do it within the next five years.
How bout that guy that open folded quads in the one drop?
Had to be a good laydown. He also said it was an easy fold. Crazy.
Since Black Friday, televised poker has pretty much died, aside from WPT and WSOP. I get that shows like the Big Game and Poker After Dark were subsidized by PokerStars and Full Tilt, but they were highly entertaining and it seemed like they were cheap to produce. No one--ESPN, NBC Sports, Spike, etc.--has any interest in revitalizing the format?
Once there's movement on the real money front, we can expect a little bit of a boom on TV. Until them, the industry is in a holding pattern.
What happened with the bracelet bounty event and the doubles event listed on the WSOP site? Not enough people signed up and they were canceled?
Actually, huge turnouts, but the WSOP has been so busy with the main they haven't been able to get all that data entered.
Andrew, I can answer John's question. Anton played yesterday but was eliminated after the dinner break with AJ against KQ. He was the only member of last years's N9 to not make it to day 2.
Isn't the POY leaderboard too skewed towards the ME though?
I think the POY structure this year is great, except for the way the One Drop was handled. I think that event should've been excluded from the POY and all other WSOP-historical related items.
Main event aside, what's the lasting memory from WSOP 2012? One Drop? Hellmuth getting #12? Ivey's 5 FTs (but no wins)? A great turnout for the Seniors event?
Ivey's return. Nobody in poker's modern era will be able to put up five final tables in 12 day ever again.
Now that I've said that, it'll be broken next year.
Who is the best of the younger or lesser-known pros to deal with from a media perspective?
While the majority of younger players aren't the best in front of the cameras, I'll give the edge to Matt Affleck who I interviewed last night. Other's that are really media friendly - basically anyone who works for PokerStars (they are all media trained), Faraz Jaka, Adam Levy, David Baker (ODB, not Bakes) and Kevn MacPhee...those are just a few off the top of my head
Do all the WSOPE events earn POY points as well, or just the WSOPE ME?
WSOPE is counted for POY. I'm sure next year will also include WSOP-APAC
You mention taxes with respect to FTP ... Do you think that the IRS will make people pay taxes on money received from FTP? That seems very weak to me, as personally I paid taxes already on money earned, not money withdrawn. I would be paying taxes on that money twice!
I would think so, but I'm no accountant!
What year does Ivey pass Hellmuth in bracelts? Or does he ever?
2021. Ivey has 16 at that point, Hellmuth has 15.
I thought you'd pick Phil Galfond or Eric Baldwin. Galfond is amazingly thoughtful and articulate and Baldwin seems like a genuinely nice guy.
Are they lesser-known pros? I didn't include them as I figured they were too much in the spotlight already.
Thanks for all the questions today everyone! See you tomorrow when Day 2B kicks off! Don't forget to check out the blog and twitter for constant updates throughout the day!