Greetings Fight Freaks and welcome to the chat. It's a slow time in the dog days of summer for boxing but we have the ongoing Olympics in London to discuss, some big fights coming next month and Floyd Mayweather got out of jail early this morning. So let's get to it.
Any news on Cotto's next opponent.
No, although Arum said he has been taling to Cotto's reps about a possible rematch with Pacquiao. Arum named Cotto as one of three November possibilities, along with Bradley and Marquez. They'd have to figure out a weight for the fight but Arum said Pacquiao was willing to go a little above 147.
Who wins a prime Hagler vs a prime Hopkins?
Love the fight. It's a very competitive fight. I think they could fight 10 times and split them.
At what point is an overhaul or disolve boxing from the Olympic games? the point scoring is a joke, corruption is rampant, and the judging and officials are putrid. Hurts more than helps the fight game.
We need an overhaul, obviously. There is some obvious corruption, such as the fight with the Japanese boxer where the referee was CLEARLY helping the other boxer.
What up Dan, Floyd is out and finally gets to have his bottle water.
Yes, sir. I am sure he is very hydrated today and looking forward to getting back to his family, friends and the ring.
You've said that you wish Guerrero had moved up in weight sooner. Why did people want to see him fighting 20 pounds above where he won his first title not too long ago? Is it his body frame?
Robert is 29 and fought as featherweight from the time he was a teen. I just felt he spent a little too long at 126 and could easily been a lightweight sooner because he does have the frame to handle it.
I know you don't gamble, but you are in the know. Can a 'normal' guy get comped fight tickets or are those only for high rollers? For a fight with a lot of open seats, how does one get comped tickets?
Normal people. There aren't 3200 high rollers for a Guerrero fight in San Jose.
Dan is it official that Garcia is rematching Morales?
I dont think it is "official" from the standpoint of being signed but that is the plan.
When he decides to fight again who do you think FMJ should that can bring some excitement plus revenue that he enjoys other than MP.
That's the big question. Will he even fight again this year? I thought Khan was possible before he lost to Garcia. I do happen to think it is possible that Guerrero could get the fight. We'll have to wait and see.
So is Gamboa and Top Rank officially split? Since he's gonna sign with TMT.
Yes, they made a financial settlement a couple of months ago. Top Rank was paid seven figures to let him go.
USA boxing women athletes will bring home the hardware.
That would be nice.
USA olympic boxing team is quite the horror. Wonder if Warren and Spence will do it today?
We shall see. I believe they fight at about 3ish this afternoon.
how far do u think david price can go in the heavyweight division
He has the power, size and smarts to win a world title.
I don't like the Pacquiao list for November. Getting awfully redundant. Who would you like to see him fight?
ANY WORD ON PAVLIK'S NEXT FIGHT?
Dan, on a scale of 1-10 how big of a deal do you think the DLH/50 cent twitter fight was? 1 being no impact, and 10 signifying a Top Rank/Golden boy feud? I know its all speculation, but you have alot of experience and I'd like to hear your opinion.
Dont know but it sure was amusing.
Dan was looking at Riddick Bowes record the other day....faced decent comp, good record, just how good was he?
He was great but VERY VERY briefly. But he lacked the training habits to sustain his greatness. He will always, to me, be a guy who wasted a tremendous amount of talent. He could have been dominant for many years with the right mental focus and dedication.
What do you think of Morales Garcia II? To me, it's the rematch no one was waiting for.
Thoughts on where the next great US heavyweight is coming from after the heavyweight and superheavyweight guys went out of the Olympics?
Just because they went out early in the Olypics doesnt mean they cant succeed as pros.
Have you seen Tyson's one man show?
No, but I feel like I lived part of it covering his fights and hearing so many of his stories over the years. I'd like to go see it though.
Hearing a lot about a possible froch pavlik bout before the rematch with bute. What chance would you give pavlik in that fight?
None. It almost certainly wont be Froch-Pavlik this fall.
Will TMT do fight with Top Rank? I know Floyd and Arum aren't to fond of each other.
Who knows? It's a very fluid situation.
Dan, any word on who either Cunningham or Jennings is going to face on 9-8?
Dan, why is it that only amateurs can box in the Olympics, but in basketball you have a team full of pro superstars?
I have no idea.
These young'uns don't know about Bowe, he was really good, no doubt, but he did duck Lennox.
He did duck Lewis, you're right. Or, rather, Rock Newman ducked Lewis, who stopped Bowe to win the Olympic gold in 1988.
Aside from all the officiating mishaps, the Olympic fights have been much more entertaining than 2008.
That I do agree with.
Do you think 50 cent is on over his head in being a promoter? Can he promote a major fighter like Mayweather?
No I dont think he is over his head. It's not rocket science. You need dedication, a game plan and a good staff. He's smart and will probably hire the right people.
Bowe was a BEAST, when properly motivated
Dan, checking out the boxing schedule and August looks pretty dry. Are there any fights this month that you're looking forward and would suggest checking out?
Very light month and that's OK sometimes. I am looking forward to the break. But we do have a terrific fight on ESPN2 on Aug. 17, the season finale. The Adonis Stevenson-Don George fight was picked up by ESPN after Showtime dumped it.
Dan I got to thinking that the creation of TMT may have a niche in signing African American fighters as Don King once did. The hip hop appeal and obvious lure of big money could change the promotional stalemate between TR and GBP. Your thoughts?
I think people are really underestimating the business prowess of a guy like 50 Cent, he could be what boxing needs to move into new audiences. It's not like the guy hasn't be hugely successful in multiple business fields before entering boxing.
That's the point and why I believe he can be a success in boxing.
any movement on the vanes-lara fight? if that fight doesnt happen, what can be in the future for these fighters?
Nothing new at the moment. I asked Arum about it the other day.
Do you know why Rashee Warren is giving it a third try? With the scoring issues, I can see why a fighter would turn pro ASAP. Warren is getting up there in age too for being an amatuer
Warren's dream was the Olympics and because he wanted to do it for his mother. Cant blame a guy for chasing his dream.
Lamont Peterson update?
There is none. Holding pattern until his Nevada hearing, which could be later this month.
Dan, do you know if Rigondaux signed a long term deal with TR to get the undercard spot on Sept 15?
No, it's a short term deal while they work on a longer one.
Will fighters be allowed to drink vitamin water during TMT fights?
Pay the man, Shirley.
Who is subbing for Teddy tonight on FNF?
Went to the Olympic boxing a couple of days ago, even in defeat your American boy Diaz impressed me in the bantamweights any plans for him to turn pro looked an exciting fighter
He is an exciting fighter with a great personality. He will be fun in the pros. I also happen to think he deserved to win that fight.
Did the referee in the Shimizu fight used to officiate Sven Ottke fights?
Pay the man, Shirley!!!!!
Your thoughts on Jason Whitlock's column about why USA Boxing is in such terrible shape?
Was terrific and I tweeted about it last night.
So both guys in tonight's FNF main event came in over 135 for a lightweight fight, did both fighters miss weight or was it a catch weight? How can they still call it a lightweight fight if they're over the weight limit?
It's not a title fight. It is common practice to be over the limit for a normal 10-rounder. Some of you are obsessed with so-called catch weights. It's no big deal at all. Nontitle bouts are typically given a couple of pounds max over the division limit.
I read Whitlock's column but I don't understand... if that Michael King guy can spend so much on Dominic Breazeale's development, how can Dominic just walk out on him? Was there no contract? Seems silly if that's the case.
Because loyalty in boxing basically doesnt exist.
Dan, what happens to the CBS deal with GB to showcase the Olympians if none of them medal? Is there really any interest in that?
I have no idea. I thought it was odd to announce an Olympian show before anyone is under contract. The fact that it could feature Olympians with zero medals certainly dampens it, but they will be our best pro prospects so I am still interested to see how they develop as pros.
Was Dominic Brazeales performance really that embarrasing?
He was manhandled by a much more experienced fighter.
Dan - How impressed were you with Guerrero? Aydin landed a ton of right hands. He needs to work on avoiding that if he thinks he wants to compete with Floyd.
I think afer a 15-month layoff, a move up two weight classes, the pressure of fighting at home and doing it against a quality opponent -- he looked just fine.
What is going on with Sky Sports Boxing? Just dropped Ricky Hatton's fighters and seems like most big UK fighters are having to fight on Box Nation now.
Sky's new deal is only with Mathroom Sport. They've decided to do less boxing. Hopefully, BoxNation or somebody else can pick up the slack. Maloney just did a deal with BoxNation, but as far as I know Hatton has no TV backer.
Will Pacquiao's loss to Bradley hinder the possibilty of a Mayweather fight even more?
"Loss." Has no bearing.
What are your thoughts on the fight between Jason Escalera vs Edwin Rodriguez on HBO in September?
Doesnt do anything for me. It's the main event because of where the show is taking place but to me it's the weakest fight on an otherwise interesting tripleheader.
So do you vacation in August when the fight schedule is as slow as it is this month?
I am taking some time off later in the month when my family comes to visit.
What do you think of Michael Hunter? I read articles in Ring mag and other places about him, but then he sort of crapped out in London. Is he still a big-time prospect?
He's decent. I am not overly high on him. The Americans out of the Olympics in the past 25 years (since Bowe) have been extremely average. Jury still out on Wilder, but he is moving very slowly (but fights this weekend).
Danny Garcia vs FMJ, buy or sell?
Sell. Ain't happenin'.
Tarver steroid update?
Test is still positive.
Whos to say the guys GB signs and puts on CBS will all be americans?
Very true, but it would not make much sense for a non-American, especially a medal winner, to turn pro in the US.
Dan, do you like flashy Entrances like in the UFC or at the Klitschko fights? i Love them and i find the Boxing entrances are pretty boring.
I do enjoy them very much.
Fun weekend of fights at the Texas Station Casino for the freaks in VEgas, nicely priced, solid prospects, contenders, Magdaleno Bros, Gesta, Lee, Bey, Benavides,...no reason not to attend both nights if you live here...
Does Adrien Broner fight again this year?
Yes, probably Oct. 6.
Denis Grachev vs Lucien Bute? Haven't we suffered enough? Exposing Sillakh's chin doesn't make Grachev any better. Until the KO, Grachev was getting killed in that fight.
Grachev scored a legit KO of a good contender. So he is moving down in weight to face Bute, who is coming off a bad knockout loss. It's a fine fight.
Dan why do you think the big time networks like showtime or hbo aren't willing to show guys like Roman Gonzales and giovanni segura? both of these guys are great fighters that deserve to be on the big stage imo.
They're clueless about the entertainment value of the little guys.
It sounds like Wladimir Klitschko Vs Mariusz Wach is close to being finalized. What are your thoughts on the match-up?
The sides are talking. It's not a set fight.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child?
33 Days Until GMEN/Cowboys, Opening Night in Jersey, baby!!!!
Do you think floyd will fight one more time this year?
I have no idea. I hope so.
I laughed when Lennox said Riddickulous Bowe during his interview on CNBC.
He has called him that for years. I saw a wonderful interview last night from London that Piers Morgan did with Lennox and Holyfield. Was great to see them sitting with each other talking over old times.
Did the Rafel Marquez/W. Vasquez fight get removed?
Marquez got hurt and the fight was postponed a week or two ago.
Hey Dan, I heard that Brandon Rios might fight Mike Alvarado. Hypothetically speaking, if they were to fight, who do you think would win?
That fight could happen. TR is trying to get it done.
Any Update on Paul Williams?
There is nothing to update. He's rehabbing but he could be what will be.
Who would you like to see next for Amir Khan?
He should fight in the UK for sure.
Does Seth Mitchell get a shot at the Klitschkos after his test Oct. 6th?
Unlikely it would be the next fight. Seth is not remotely ready.
Did you see our UK boy Anthony Joshua fight the other day? Big fan of his, but man did he get a GIFT!!!
I did and I think he's one of the more interesting pro prospects in the Games.
Is there ANYBODY ready for a Klitschko? I think not.
lol, so true.
Dan - do you think Tavoris Cloud will take an interim fight, or wait for Pascal to heal? How legitimate are the comments from Cloud's camp that Pascal is faking the injury?
There wont be an interim bout if the Pascal fight is rescheduled. Showtime and the promoters are trying to work out a new date in the fall. I believe Pascal is injured. No other reason to back out. Cloud and King just talking smack.
Hey Dan, hadn't read anything lately on B-Hop, do you thing he will fight again?
I think he will fight again.
I thought Cotto has MSG secured for his next fight, and Manny would never fight there for tax reasons? Would the plan be for Cotto to dump MSG and go to Vegas?
Nothing has been finalized for either of those guys and plans in boxing can always change.
really disappointing Pascal was injured. i think that fight is going to be a great slug-fest! any news on when they might have an open date to pick it up on Showtime?
Nothing yet. It's tough in the fall too because you have to match Showtime's schedule with the Bell Centre, which has a lot of Saturday's taken because of NHL games.
Have you ever ahd a conversation with a promoter about what they are thinking putting fights in venues where they don't belong and don't sell?
Dan - do you see Vasyl Lomachenko going pro after the Olympics this year? How do you see his pro career panning out?
I think he will go pro after this Olympics. He is sensational.
How long do we have to wait until every Filipino fighter is no longer compared to Manny Pacquiao, 10 years after he retires?
A million years.
How devestating was Lundy's loss to his title hopes? He worked up a long way after that first loss now he's got to work his all the way up again... how far down in the rankings does he drop?
Extremely devastating. The title shot is gonzo.
Will Broner ever fight a big name fighter?
Is the Brian Viloria vs Tyson Marquez fight a done deal for Sept 29, and if so, which network will pick it up?
Only if they get TV, which they dont have right now.
If Julio Cesar Chavez Jr beats Sergio Martinez convincingly, will he crack your top 10 p4p rankings?
Let's see how the fight goes.
dan, if Floyd and Chisora were to meet Haye, who will get the bottle first?
Dan, got any good videos we can borrow since August doesn't have much premium boxing?
I may have to delve into the archive this weekend, although I am going up to the National Sportscards convention in Baltimore tomorrow so maybe Sunday.
Anything upcoming with Anselmo Moreno? I was very impressed by his last fight--top 10 P4P in my opinion.
Not a thing as far as I know.
What are your thoughts on Golden Boy destroying the California market by giving away all the tickets to all of their shows. Newsflash to Golden Boy: If you give all the fans free tickets, they aren't ever going to pay anymore. Once you give somebody something for free, they ain't gonna pay for it....
Every fight will have comps. That is no problem. Every sporting event period has some comps. The problem is when you have fights like Garcia-Khan and Guerrero-Aydin where you give out more comps than paid tickets. That destroys markets. You condition people to think if they wait long enough they'll just get free tickets. That is detrimental to the overall business.
Did you see the photo floyd tweeted of him with hair? No wonder he shaves his head.
Yes, I saw it and retweeted it.
Check out the video I did on the Olympic boxing tourney: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/1596/ring-tones-scouting-the-olympics
Dan, I'm a boxing freak. How do I get a job at Main Events????
Send them a resume or call them?
Even if a majority of the tickets were comped, the atmosphere for the Guerrero fight was rather good.
I'm sure it was but that was not really the discussion point.
Dan, thank you for your recent article on Chris John, one of my favorites. I hope he goes out on top, with a couple of big fights!!!
DTM. Which fight will you be attending on September 15?
Martinez-Chavez, along with the rest of the main boxing media.
Which Olympian, any country, have you been most impressed with so far?
Lomachenko remains a stud.
Any truth to the rumor that the American Olympians have been on a losing streak because none of them have been accompanied to the ring by the Sam Watson twins?
PAY THE FREAKIN MAN SHIRLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C.M.with the best line in the history of Dan Rafael chats! HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was a Hall of Fame comment. Awesome.
For the life of me I cannot figure out how Billy Dib fits in at TMT Promotions, can you shed any light on that?
Dan the Man. My wedding is September 15th. 1st time in 15 years that I am ging to miss a major fight. What's a fight freak to do?
Break up with the chick.
Would the proposed Rios-Alvarado fight take place on the Martinez-Chavez Jr. card?
No, Donaire card.
Will the 2012 olympic fighters will get a title shot before Vanes Martirosyan?
Pay the man, Shirley!
Seems to me a real Fight Freak checks the calendar before scheduling a wedding or at least makes sure there is a TV with the fight onsite for just such a possibility.
Any true Fight Freak who schedules a wedding for Mexican Independence Weekend is a moron.
OK, Fight Freaks gotta cut today's chat a bit short. Have a Mayweather video that needs to be done. Hope you have a great weekend and enjoy the Olympic fights and tonight's FNF. Talk to you next week. Peace.