I still don't understand how the Teo interception held up. The ball jostled around after it hit the ground! He secured it after that. What am I missing?
It was really close. I didn't think there was enough evidence to overturn the call either way. If it had been ruled an incompletion it would have stayed that way.
Who's been the most over-valued team going into this season, USC or OU?
USC. Many people had the Trojans preseason No. 1. Only one AP voter had the Sooners. Plus, OU's losses have been to K-State and Notre Dame. USC has lost to Stanford/Arizona.
Hey Jake, think I propelled myself in the top 3 of the Heisman race with my game over yall?
Nah, I think you were already there. It's Collin Klein and Te'o 1-2 in my Heisman ballot at the moment. Third place is up for grabs.
On TV it looked like Notre Dame man handled the Sooner's pretty easily, did it seem that way live?
In the trenches, yes. OU couldn't run the ball, and not for lack of trying. And that was against a three-man front. The Irish were dropping eight, and still stuffing OU's run.
Unlike the Kansas State game, I really can't put this loss on Landry Jones. Throwing for 375 against a really good defense and just one turnover, although very bad timing, is a decent performance in my opinion. So when OU looks bad at the game and looks at itself in the mirror, what needs to change going forward? or is it just a simple case of not having enough talent?
Decent? I thought he was pretty good. Stoops said today, without Landry, OU wouldn't have been in the game. I agree. His only turnover came off a possible pass interference/questionable interception. As for where the Sooners are, I wrote about it today here: http://espn.go.com/colleges/oklahoma/football/story/_/id/8567870/can-oklahoma-sooners-contend-national-championships-future-currently-constructed
Jake, is there anyway you could steal and burn those hideous coaching OU sweatshirts for the sake of all humanity?
I will try, but if I'm caught, someone else will have to operate the chat next week.
Is it just me or are the Sooners cursed in big games at night?
Just a coincidence. Almost all the big games are at night. That's why they call it primetime. OU has won a lot of big night games. At OSU in 2010, Texas Tech in 08 come to mind.
Jake--your comments on the antics of Kenny Still at the end of the game...mere frustration or something that needs to be watched...it was embarassong to watch...your thoughts and thanks.
I didn't see it live because I was walking down from the press box, but I went back and watched in on replay yesterday. Not a huge deal. He was frustrated. It happens. He probably could have handled it better. But it wasn't like he slugged anybody ala LeGarrette Blount
Odds OU finishes the season 10-2 and makes a BCS Game? What's the worse case scenerio, 8-4 and a spot in the Alamo?
Yeah that's probably worst case. 9-3 or 10-2 is most likely though. I predicted 9-3 after the K-State loss. I'll stick by it. But OU could very easily go 10-2 and a BCS bowl.
Hey jake I heard a rumor that Justin brown is thinking of transferring back to penn st?
Does Landry finish the season as starting qb?
Come on, part II
Why didn't Stoops pull Stills out of the game at the end, his behavior was unacceptable.
Probably should have recognized Stills was too hot. But again, I don't think it was a big deal.
Is Blake Bell the next Optimus Klein, or is Kendall Thompson the future for OU
Bell will be the starting QB next season. Whether he's the next Optimus Klein remains to be seen.
What needs to happen for OU to be selected for the Rose Bowl (other than OU winning out)? Oregon goes to NC game, and other Pac-12 teams finish with more than 1 loss?
Oregon has to go the title game, and no other Pac-12 team can be in the BCS bowl mix. That would put Alabama-Oregon in the title; Kansas State in the Fiesta. The Rose Bowl would then have a choice between Notre Dame and OU. Some people think they might go with OU if Nebraska is the Big Ten champ. Passing on Notre Dame, though, would be tough.
Not seeing anyone left on the schedule who is better than OU or can exploit OU like Notre Dame or K-State w/ physicallity, how realistic is OU wins out and plays a team like Nebraska in the Rose Bowl?
Very realistic. The three road games, Iowa State WV TCU, look more winnable today than they did before the season. Hard to see OSU or Baylor winning in Norman. So 10-2 is very possible.
On the teo pick... the ball surely moves, but no clear shot that it touched the ground, I was ok with it not being reversed.
OU had lost two home games pre Landry now has lost 3 under Landry.
Yeah, Landry was the reason OU lost Saturday. Had nothing to do with the Notre Dame defensive line shutting down the Sooners' run game.
Do you think Stoops will allow his next QB to run the ball more, or will it be more of the same?
No, there will definitely be run game with Bell running the show. How much? I could see Bell getting 8-10 carries a game as the starting QB.
Of the 5 games left, is WV the most loseable game followed by Iowa St, OSU, TCU, Baylor? I would say OSU would be the toughest but seeing how avg they've played away from Stillwater (KU, AZ) compared to games at BPS I think WV & ISU would be harder being on the road. Thoughts?
I would probably rank them: @WV, @Iowa State, OSU, @TCU, Baylor. OSU might be the best of those five teams, but the game is in Norman.
The offensive line contains personnel that are athletic yet small. Other offensive lines in the past have had success with such personnel against larger Defensive Lines. (Air Force, Mike Shanahan teams.) Is the effectiveness of the run game or lack thereof due to physical limitations or schematics in your opinion?
Probably a little of both. But OU never had trouble running when Phil Loadholt and Duke Robinson were on campus. Doesn't hurt to have maulers.
Jake,How does OU's defense compare to last year's.
It's much, much better, especially in the secondary.
were you able to talk with any recruits who were at the game on saturday, and if the outcome has changed their minds?
Bob Przybylo spoke to a bunch of them yesterday. All his recruiting updates are on our forum.
In your honest opinion, why can't OU run the ball well consistently? Is it a coaching issue? Is it the players? Is it scheme? I don't think it's mentality because those boys seem intent on running.
In my opinion, it's hard to operate a physical run game with converted tight ends on your offensive line and scatbacks in your backfield.
Is the magic really lost from Owen Field or should the 2 losses this year be chalked up to OU playing 2 teams, w/ 2 heisman canidates, that are just better than them? Because both games the athmosphere was great but ND/KS just made plays.
The magic is gone. Texas Tech didn't have any Heisman candidates.
who do you think wins the olklahoma vs notre dame game?i think nd.
Somebody help Mason.
Strangely, I'm not as upset with the loss to Notre Dame as I was to Kansas State. Thought we played decent just lost to a better team, which goes to show our recruiting isn't what it used to be. Think our biggest flaw is what makes SEC the best conference in the nation, talent and depth on both the offensive and defensive line, thoughts?
Couldn't agree more. Notre Dame is better. I think Kansas State is better, too. Both teams were better up front.
How much of an impact do you think Saturday's loss will have on recruiting?
One game won or loss usually doesn't have that great an effect on recruiting.
Everyone points out we lost 2 home games to KSU and Notre Dame, but in reality those are not bad loses at all. I mean compared to the mess that is Texas, OU is looking pretty good right now right?
Compared to Texas, Arkansas isn't looking so bad.
Jake, having seen both KSU and ND up close and personal at OU, who wins in a potential Fiesta Bowl matchup between the two?
Notre Dame has the better defense. But Kansas State can do more things offensively. In person, Notre Dame looked like the better team, but Kansas State seems to be playing even better a month later. I might give Notre Dame a slight edge because of that defensive line, but what a game that would be.
Is Notre Dame the real deal this year, Can OU at least say both losses are too legitimate NC contenders?
Yes, OU can say that.
how serious is the ankle injury of Damien Williams ?
Not too serious. But it could keep him out of the game this weekend. He walked right by me after the Notre Dame game, and he was hobbling pretty bad.
Mr. Trotter. Did you make it to Gameday and party with Corso and the gang?
Nope I didn't get the invite.
It appears Baylor is back to being Baylor they'll have to pull off some big upsets to make a bowl.
Yep, Baylor has definitely taken a step back this year.
How much does the loss of Knott hurt Iowa State this weekend trying to stop or shall I say slow down OU's offense?
It hurts. Knott is one of the 3 best LBs in the league. It's not like the Cyclones are overflowing with depth across the board, either. A.J. Klein will have to elevate his game even more.
Who goes pro and who stays
Jefferson goes pro if he's a top-three rounder. Maybe Stills, although I don't know what his stock would be. Colvin would be the other, but I think he comes back.
Hi Jake. Did it seem like the play calling changed at times once OU got past the 50? Seems like they tried to get too cute instead of continuing to call plays/play types that were working. Also seemed that hurry up was working, and then they would slow it down.
Yep, almost seemed like they had 4-5 plays scripted, then when those were up, they had to take a moment to come up with the next play. It definitely allowed Notre Dame to settle in.
We have seen a plethora of superstars since our last National Championship in 2000. If you put a lineup togeher of our best players since 2000, would any current players make the list?
In other words, on a Stoops all-time team, would anybody from this team make the squad? Hmm...
Jefferson and Colvin deserve consideration. Trey Millard at FB.
Hey Jake,I am a Landry detractor, but I agree he played well on Saturday (I flew in from Miami to see the game). But wasn't it awfully telling when they NEEDED to get something going and it wasn't short yardage they put Bell in? Is that going to effect Landry going forward?
I didn't read it way. I thought they were clearly trying to set up the Bell pass out of the Belldozer. I actually said to someone sitting next to me, 'Watch this, they're trying to set up a pass.'
Is this ISU upset special of the year game?
Could be. Iowa State takes down a heavy favorite every year. Plus, you have to wonder where OU's psyche is coming off such a disappointing loss.
There is a lot of talk about the lack of up tempo in the offense. Should Heupel take the blame for the slowdown?
Who else would you blame?
Is Josh Heupel in over his head? I really was optimistic about him as OC but wary of his lack of experience. Was this a mistake on Stoops' part letting Josh cut his OC teeth at OU?
Two weeks ago in Dallas, Heupel called a terrific game. I wouldn't evaluate him week-to-week. Look at the body of work, then make a call.
One last thing - since you were on the sideline, did the coaching staff teach you any new vocabulary words after the "holding call"?
I was only there in the final minute of the game.
We dont seem to run block very well. I dont understand how guys that weigh upwards of 300 lbs cant seem to move guys and open holes. Any ideas?
Because the guys OU is playing on the offensive line is smaller than the guys they are facing.
Is Te'o the best defensive player to play against OU in Norman in the Stoops era? Because thinking back of the ones I've seen it would be either Te'o, Julius Peppers or Suh. Only thing that hurts Suh was he wasn't the player in 2008 when Neb was here that he was in 2009.
Te'o is the most dominating defensive player I've seen since Suh, and you're right, OU went to Lincoln during Suh's great year in 2009. So yeah, I'd probably agree with that statement. No one else is coming to mind.
Do you miss me in the booth calling plays?
By the way, Indiana is slowly getting better under KW. Nice little win over Illinois on Saturday.
Hey Jake..thought we moved the ball pretty well spreading them out to 4/5 wide and keeping a back in to protect Landry. Then we just stopped doing that!!!! I know we needed to try running but very clear it wasn't working. Agree???
I would have begun to air it out. The Sooners say they were wanting to keep the Notre Dame LBs honest. But really, whether OU ran the ball or not, Notre Dame was not worried about it.
Still not much playing time for Finch. Its really surprising but we all know what he can do. I don't even think Te'o could've been quick enough to tackle him on his own. Is he really that bad in practice?
Who knows? Will be interesting to see if Finch plays if Williams can't go. I think he will. Sooners will need his playmaking if Williams is out.
Is our defense in trouble next year? We have to replace a tremendous amount of experience. Some talent, but a LOT of experience.
I was thinking about this very topic earlier today. Walker, McGee, Washington, McFarland, King, Harris, Hurst all gone. Maybe Jefferson, too. Will be a young defense next year. Mike Stoops will have his work cut out.
Thanks for answering my question. BTW your book is great. Learned a lot about the Sooners that I didn't know about.
Will 10-2 get OU to a BCS bowl??? If so..which one???
Depends on what K-State does. If the Cats go to the title game, Fiesta is very likely again. If K-State goes to the Fiesta, Sooners could end up at any of the other BCS bowls, depending on what else happens.
Top 5 coaches in the Big 12 and not just based on Wins and Loses?
Paul Rhoads is up there. His teams are always well-coached.
Where would you rank Ohio State if they were BCS eligible?
Probably 6th behind LSU. Ohio State is having a nice year, but who have the Bucks beaten? Penn State? Purdue?
Was Oklahoma too conservative Saturday? I don't remember a single deep ball being thrown. Have they lost faith in Landry Jones in big games?
Not a question of losing faith. Stoops said today Notre Dame was taking away the deep ball. That's why so many underneath throws were open.
I still don't see how Teo a great player can win the heisman, he's not Charles Woodson.
A lot of the sexier candidates (Barkley, Lattimore) are no longer in the mix. If say OSU beat K-State this weekend, Te'o would be the frontrunner.
Is the only was for OU to get back to winning championships is for them to get bigger in the trenches?
Not necessarily bigger. But being more physical would help.
What impressed you most about ND?
Their defensive line. Those 3 guys alone controlled the line of scrimmage. Was also impressed with Golson. He played a flawless game. Made a bunch of throws. Made plays with his wheels. Didn't make a single mistake.
Thanks Jake, hey when you get a minute go check out the virtual tour of the newly remodel football complex on cyclones.com Looks great! Should be opening any day now, and I agree Coach Rhoads has done an amazing job in the 3.5 years he has been at ISU, look forward to the game this weekend against the Sooners. Good luck to both teams.
Thanks Chad, will do.
The TV guys kept talking about how late the holding call was, but they never showed a replay of when the flag was thrown. They made it sound like they threw the flag as OU was lining up for the extra point. Did you get a view of when the flag was tossed? And either way, was it a good call or no?
I went back and watch the replay, and it was a good call. Irwin held. But I never saw it announced on the field. Maybe I missed it. But TV missed it, too. When you call a TD back, as an official you have to do a better job of making sure people know why. People have said the official's mic wasn't working. But I never saw him signal the penalty, either.
To what degree was OU out-coached vs Notre Dame?
More than anything, Notre Dame was able to play the game it wanted. It was OU adjusting to Notre Dame's slow, methodical style, not Notre Dame trying to keep up with the Sooners. Notre Dame wanted this game to be in the teens in the fourth quarter. That's exactly what it was.
Safe to say OU offense will be better next year with bringing alot of people back besides landry, lane and brown. If kenny stays and the addition of evans and gardner plus experience for everyone.
I don't necessarily agree. Everyone assumes just because Bell is tough to bring down he's going to be an awesome throwing QB. He might be. But we don't know that. People could end up missing Landry next year, the same way they say they're missing Kevin Wilson, who was vilified when he was the play-caller.
Whats your take on the depth and quality of the new big 12 this year? Defense seems to really be down this year with maybe the exception of OU and Kansas State, but then again its never been the strong point in that league. Texas may have the worst defense in its program history EVER. West Virginia and Baylors defense is a joke. Kansas State struggled with its out of conference games except Miami, OU sure looked bad against UTEP and with the exception of Mike Golic and Coach Holtz I don't know one person that pick Notre Dame to beat OU. So I wanted to get your opinion on the National relevance of the Big 12 and can a team from that league win a National title with the way the teams are currently structured? Thanks Jake, enjoy your stuff.
The conference is not as deep as I thought it might be. West Virginia, TCU, Texas have not delivered. There's a sizable dropoff after the top two teams.
Guys, that's all the time we've got today. Thanks for all the questions. We'll do it again next Monday, same time, same place. Until then, have a great week.