Happy Halloween dudes. Gotta admit, was never really my favorite holiday ...not a big candy or dress-up guy. However, I'm considering going as "the Dave Herman that fought at UFC on Fuel in Omaha." http://goo.gl/QTNe0 Easy look to replicate, minimal costs. Hope you guys have good things planned tonight. Let's get to the MMA chat.
Watched condit vs diaz one of the worest title fights decions i m a condit fan what fight were the judes watching what your top five worst ufc main evnts decions
I've been criticized on Twitter a lot for scoring that fight for Diaz. Have to be honest, never rewatched it. Amazingly. I rewatch fights all the time but since neither have fought since then, I don't know, just haven't. Watching live, I think I scored it four rounds to one for Diaz but pretty much all of the rounds were very close. I remember not being outraged or anything that Condit won, but surprised, because typically in a close fight, judges always go with the guy who is more aggressive. As far as top five worst main event decisions? That's a tough one off the top of my head. I'll think about it while we go on and let you know if any come to mind.
WHO CAN BEAT ANDERSON SILVA??? and what game plan would they use?
Jon Jones could probably beat Anderson Silva. Use his athleticism to take him down. Jones is an outside fighter because of the reach, but if they fought I'd think the Jackson camp would want him to pressure Silva a bit. It's scary to deal with his counter strikes, but Jon is so athletic, he could feint, use his jab, get inside and take AS down. That's still the best game plan to beat Silva, is to take him down. If that fight happens right now, i'm still taking Anderson by the way.
Hey Brett, any news on what's next for Korean Zombie? How long till he's fighting for the title?
I had heard, and this was awhile ago, they considered matching him against Frankie Edgar for Frankie's first fight at 145 pounds. Clearly, things have changed. That shows how highly they think of him. Haven't heard much lately about his injury, but I think his timetable to return is coming up. He'll be in action soon. Plenty of good fights for Zombie, 145 is a dynamic class right now.
I belive the talk about jones vs silva shows this yearr cards ppv has been the worst in a least 5 years i like the card on fox diaz vs henderson better than gsp vs condit what u think
Yeah, I love the Fox card. Love the BJ/MacDonald fight. Gus/Shogun is okay. Always down to watch Matt Brown fight, he's an action guy. This year's PPV did suffer in general, much of that due to injuries. No doubt about it. We have plenty of intriguing stuff on tap for 2013, starting with that Edgar/Aldo fight. Hopefully next year doesn't see as many injuries/suspensions.
Brett how does a guy who beat a guy who got outstruck by maia thinks hes the best mw.. And alot of people think he has a chance against silva.. I highly doubt hes a better wrestler than sonnen
You lost me there ... are we talking about Chris Weidman? I think we are ... If we are, I give him a shot but I'd like to see him continue fighting in the meantime. Weidman has got some of the tools you might need to beat Anderson, but we've seen before when guys get thrown in too quickly against the best in the world, they usually don't do terribly well. I wouldn't say Weidman is the caliber of wrester as Sonnen, but he's not incredibly far behind and he knows how to wrestle in MMA. He sets up his shots well.
What other super fights are out there besides GSP vs Silva and Silva vs Jones?
I mean, you could look at Aldo vs. Edgar as a super fight but I don't think many do just because Frankie is probably a natural featherweight anyway and Aldo could easily fight at 155. Other than that, Jon Jones/Junior dos Santos I suppose, but we're not anywhere close to seeing that one.
Who be pound 4 pound top five if guys fought at there weight before some of the crazy cuts thanks
Well, that's kind of a difficult question because without crazy weight cutting, we'd have to sit here for awhile and contemplate who cuts what and who could fight who and there are still huge differences in weights anyway ... you'd basically end up with all heavyweights still because weight-cutting or not they are the biggest. When you're looking at pound-for-pound a big question is which guys have styles that give guys problems, which guys are the best technically. My top 5 p4p are Anderson, Jon, Georges, Dominick, Jose. I rank Dominick way higher than most.
With the Aldo-Edgar news breaking, do you see that as the main event for Super Bowl weekend? Or should we expect something over that?
Main event for sure.
Dana White recently said the Silva/Jones fight "will absolutely happen." Given both fighters statements about not wanting to fight one another, do you think this fight will happen? What kind of paydays are these guys looking at?
If I had to put percentage on the fight happening, I'd say 65%. Dana loves it from a fan's perspective. I think he, like the rest of us, wants to see who'd win and obviously it'd pull in huge money for the UFC. They're going to see what happens with this GSP/SIlva situation first though and in this sport, that means there are so many variables that could happen before we ever see Silva/Jones.
Do you happen to have any insider info regarding the World Series of Fighting, that is worth sharing? Anything that is unusual about the production, or rules, in comparison to UFC events?
No, not really. I attended the commission meeting where they received their promoters license and it seems like they are well funded with good knowledge of what it takes to run an event. In terms of rules, I haven't looked at the rulebook but they'll be the same as UFC, although I'm not sure about elbows to downed opponents if that's what you're specifically wondering about.
Now that Bonnar is retired does he get nominated to the Hall of Fame?
Kosh vs Diaz? Do u see any way Diaz loses that?
Koscheck decision ... wrestling ... boring fight. That's the only way I see Kos winning. Kos has a better chance in a three-rounder, which I'm guessing it would be, they wouldn't use that to headline an FX or Fuel card.
I asked Chuck this on Friday. What's your (adult) drink of choice? Chuck digs the Microbrews.
IPAs for me. I used to live right down the street from the New Belgium brewery in Fort Collins, Colo. Favorite brewery.
Brett, it's looking like Jones and Sonnen have gotten friendly with each other pretty early into their season of TUF. Is it too much "pro wrestling" mentality to think that they shouldn't be shown on camera getting along like old friends?
I haven't seen any interaction between them yet. Are you talking about the online chat they did last night with Dana? I think by the time the show comes around we'll see drama. Man, if there's no drama then why did we do this? The big secret here is that Chael is actually pretty likeable, so it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up liking each other but you can bet they won't sell the fight that way. Chael will end up talking trash, even if he's completely faking it.
I guess it is getting to be time for these questions, but who do you think is the fighter of the year. It has to be either the winner of Nate vs. Bendo, or Rousey, and I actually am leaning toward the Cover of the Body Issue.
Yeah, Rousey seems like an obvious pick. Only fought twice though ... but yeah. On the men's side ... you could pick Junior if he beats Cain but awards are typically handed out by then aren't they?
What is Sonnen gonna do to JBJ.....not a lot i'd presume, does his hype train grind to a halt after JBJ demolishes him?
Yeah, we discussed this last week when everyone was angry about the matchup (which, now that everything has settled down, has it grown on any of you at all?). No, I really don't see anywhere Chael gives JBJ a problem. Should be a very easy win.
Whats up Brett! Do you think Hendo should take another fight or sit and demand Jones next? and will u be at 154?
Hey Dwight. If Hendo decided to sit and wait, I sure wouldn't write any column ripping him. He's earned the shot. Why risk it at this point in his career? That said, pretty clear the UFC wants him to fight Lyoto. Hendo has said, according to Dana, he's still not healthy enough to train yet. We'll see. And no, I'm skipping 154 unfortunately. Chuck is an East Coast guy, easy flight for him.
If you had to ghost write a fighters autobiography.......Who would it be?
Nick Diaz. 100 percent.
Brett, I left my powerless house and drove to my parents so I could be part of this chat today (okay, a hot shower and hot food contributed too). Anyway, I am very disappointed at Werdum getting Big Nog...feel like he deserved a higher caliber opponent.
Thanks for the dedication Matt, and best of luck to anyone in this chat affected by the storm. I'm somewhat with you on the matchup, but Big Nog hasn't diminished as much as I previously thought. When he fought Randy and Cain Velasquez, I was like, man, Big Nog is finished. But he came back from those hip surgeries and looked pretty good against Schaub and Mir. He'll give Werdum a challenge, he won't be a punching bag like Roy Nelson was in that fight (sorry Roy.) They'll make for good coaches on the show, too.
Hello Moto. Do you know if Penn and McDonald are still doing the VADA testing before their fight on Fox?
Last I heard, yes they are.
Does E:60 talk to you guys before they do a piece like the GSP one last night?
Not always, but yeah I talked to the producer for the GSP one.
Wait, you would still take AS over JJ? Let's say it is EVEN money. No question in your mind you still take AS?
I mean, of course there's question. I'm not saying it's an easy fight. But right now, Jones still makes mistakes. Not a ton of glaring ones, but he makes mistakes. There are openings to hit him. If he couldn't take Silva down, I think he loses on the feet. Problem is, he probably can take Silva down. But the experience factor and the confidence factor of Silva, I've still got to take him right now.
What's the future look like for Mike Swick in your opinion? I believe he is still top notch in a stacked division.
Yeah, the DeMarques Johnson knockout was definitely something. Hey, I don't mean this as disrespect by the way, Martin Kampmann is possibly one fight away from a title shot and I look at he and Mike Swick pretty similar in terms of talent. Swick could make a run, although I don't know if he's the athlete that some of the other 170s are.
Anyone else not a huge fan of werdum big nog? Werdum is coming on a 2 fight win streak and deserves a top ten or atleast a rising prospect live struve here dont really see any upside here for werdum besides avenging the 2006 loss. I thought big nog big foot would have made for a more interesting/fitting matchup
Yeah, Nogueira/Bigfoot would have been an alright fight. Already covered this so no need to say a ton, I'll just say don't completely sleep on Big Nog yet. The chin is still there. He's not quite as explosive but the power in his punches are still there ... I'm not seeing this as a gimmie to Werdum at all.
Who's got the best/worst tattoos in the UFC?
Dang it, who is the guy, he just fought, with the Octagon caging tattoed onto half his torso? Someone help me out here. Not a fan of that one. Also, any lower back tattoos ... not a good look. I believe Gray Maynard has one and Charlie Brenneman that come to mind. As far as best ... I like Frankie Edgar. Ben Henderson. Cerrone.
Hey Brett, I'd love to see a Nick Diaz-Thiago Alves fight in 2013 or 2014. Do you think it is possible, or is Alves too far down the rankings right now? Alves was beating Kampmann until that ill-fated takedown attempt.
He definitely was beating Kampmann, you're right. Unfortunately that's still a loss and yeah, he's too far down in the rankings right now. We've fed Erick Silva to two consecutive wrestlers, let's give him a striker. Alves/Silva would be sweet and whoever wins that would be in line for a big name opponent. Give Nick Diaz Rory MacDonald (if MacDonald beats B.J.) or the winner of Hendricks/Kampmann.
Yo MOTO, after Dos Santos puts cain down for another nap when will he get Overeem? and who do u have in Cigano vs. Reem?
Obviously it's real early to be taking rumors on that fight seriously, but I've heard UFC would like to do that in March if JDS (or Cain) comes away healthy. In a Junior/Reem fight, I've got Junior but I give Overeem the best shot at beating JDS right now in the division.
Why is everyone talking about Big Nog like he's not Big freaking Nog. This man is the Randy Couture of Brazil. Count him out if you want but I'm picking him to win that fight Werdum
There ya go. Good to know I'm not alone in this one.
theDude91379can't believe we're not talking about the Macao fights on here yet! I love the matchups. Silva vs. Nedkov, Thiago vs. Kim, and Danzig Gomi are all really intruiging fights for me..... your picks?
Rich Franklin should win in the main event, although he did get clipped by Wanderlei and was basically on cruise control for the rest of the fight. In the other ones, give me Thiago Silva, Kim and Danzig. Hate to say it, but Gomi is done.
Who gets the next shot at 155? Could you give it to Maynard assuming he gets past lauzon? Pettis? Cerrone? Personally, I'm taking Maynard unless Pettis beats Cerrone.
If Pettis ever gets healthy his fight with Cerrone will be promoted as a No. 1 contenders fight ... as it should. Maynard is still my favorite to pull Eddie Alvarez duties if they sign him.
I think the guy with the cage tattoo was Joey Gambino, fought Brandao in Brazil. Moto, how would you compare the talent between the final four in an average Bellator tournament, and the final four in an average season of TUF?
Think you're right NS and if you look at this season of TUF and the ongoing welterweight tournament in Bellator, I'd say Bellator has the better talent. TUF can be real hit and miss with talent. This season was a miss.
gsp vs condit? who wins?
Reserving the right to change my mind by the time we reach the fight, but I say GSP. Those who like Condit like him, among a few other reasons, because they think he wins it on the feet and has the ability to stay on his feet. I think they're wrong about both. GSP is underrated in the striking department. He doesn't get the finishes that Condit does, but it's not necessarily Condit's fight if it stays on the feet. And that said, I still think GSP puts him on his back.
Do you consider Roy Nelson the reigning King Chin of the UFC? Who else is in the discussion?
Yeah, Roy's got the best chin I'd say. You know who also had a great chin we didn't know about until the Thiago Alves fight? Rick Story.
Big Nog isn't Randy Couture because Couture, while he dropped fights to top guys, also beat top guys not long after. (HW champ Tim Sylvia and Gonzaga anyone?) Who has Big Nog fought in the top tier recently and not lost decisively?
I know it was a loss, but he should have won that Frank Mir fight. If he keeps throwing hands from Mir's back instead of going for a choke, things are very different. I know you have to go by what happened and not what COULD have happened, but Big Nog is still a good test to just about anyone. Like Randy was.
Hi Brett If you had to guess, how much do you think jones and AS will each get if they do fight each other?
Tough to say ... you really don't know because the UFC pays the fighter salaries that are made public by athletic commissions, but then you hear different numbers all the time for what fighters made. It would be in the millions though.
You think BJ's cardio or that Rory's cut in training is the bigger disadvantage in that fight? (it could open up easier now)
If those are my only two options, I'd say BJ's cardio for sure. Even more than that though is BJ's size disadvantage.
has anyone pressed dana to acknowledge that with the planned jbj/silva fight, and the word that he possibly wants hendo & machida, that he's completely reneged on his claim that the most impressive winner of the shogun/veira
No, but remember Machida was the one they said was most impressive and then he turned down the fight twice on short notice. I'm not saying that because I thought he was wrong to do so, but technically he was offered it and he turned it down.
Does the UFC look at Phil Davis as a challanger to Jon Jones or at least a marketable foe ?
Not yet, to either of your questions. But they see the potential in both. He's got charisma, looks like an athletic freak and he's got the best base you can have in this sport (wrestling). But right now, he's nowhere near Jon Jones level. He needs experience and he needs to improve.
How can you have a King Chin conversation and not be talking about the Koren Zombie?
I'm also seeing love for Fabio Maldonado and Dan Hardy in this greatest chin discussion. I agree with both of those ... but I don't think either are on Roy Nelson level. And for some reason Rick Story still stands out in that Thiago Alves fight. He got annihilated in the third round of that fight but was never close to going out.
Like a lot of people I don't think Edgar deserves his shot with Aldo. When Koch went down the next shot should have gone to the next #1 contender which I believe is the Korean Zombie. He cut through the division and did it with great finishes. Edgar lost two in a row, doesn't finish guys and hasn't even fought in the division yet and he gets a shot. ? Why?
First off, an Edgar/Aldo fight is bigger money which we all know means something in the UFC whether we like it or not. But in this case, it goes beyond that. Edgar deserves it because he's that good. If you polled all the MMA journalists, I'd pretty much guarantee Edgar would rank higher than KZ even though we haven't seen him at featherweight. Edgar/Aldo is the best featherweight fight you can make right now. Two, Top 10 pound-for-pound fighters.
who has the best chance to unseat benson henderson?
I'd give Donald Cerrone a great shot. He's lost to him twice but the second one he just got caught in a guillotine and the first time I actually thought he won. I'd also give Anthony Pettis a shot, but less than Cerrone. Those are the two guys. I don't think Nate Diaz gets it done.
I saw Anik tweet the other day that he has hit 1 year on the job. Does that mean we have hit our 1 year anniversary with your ugly mug?
I guess so. Cheers :)
Your thoughts on a Cormier vs Big Foot rematch ?
No interest. Cormier smashes him again. Hand speed is too much for Big Foot. Big Foot's strength is ground and pound and he ain't getting DC on the ground.
RE: Edgar. To me, this is Dana's way of saying "sorry the judges screwed you Frankie." Still one of the worst decisions I have ever seen in my 5 years of following MMA
Yep, agree. It was pretty bad.
True or False. Anderson Silva is the only man outside of heavyweight who could beat Jon Jones?
As of right now. In next five years, with some development, Alexander Gustafsson MAYBE. Phil Davis MAYBE, but probably not. If Daniel Cormier drops to 205, maybe.
people still pick jds over CAIN even after the comments fitch made???
Fitch is a teammate man. Of course he's going to say that. Granted, that doesn't make it not true, but the sentiments of a teammate is not going to make me change my pick. I just think JDS is too athletic to get down. And keep down.
Pettis won't beat cerrone and can't wrestle good enough to get through top wrestlers of the division. no title shot
I agree he won't beat Cerrone, but you can't say there's no way he gets a title shot because he's already one fight away from getting it. As long as he doesn't run into ... who? Gray Maynard? What other wrestler would he likely run into in the next, let's say three years, that would prevent him from getting a title shot? If Gilbert Melendez moved over from SF, I'd actually still pick Pettis over Gil right now.
How do you think Tyrone Spong will do on sat? And does he have a chance to make it to the UFC and be a contender
I think he'll do well on Saturday. Don't know much about his opponent, Travis Bartlett, but he's only 7-2 and from his record he looks like a striker. If WSOF has any kind of brains (which they do) they've matched him up with someone who will make him look good. Longterm, I think he's got the athletic tools to be good but like I said in the chat last week, you have to want to learn this stuff and who knows how he's enjoying the transition to BJJ and wrestling.
sorry brotha but i cant let it go..... if both fighters have shredded knees, wouldnt the advantage belong to the striker(jds)???
Yes, it would. But I picked JDS to win that fight before news of the knee problems surfaced and I'll do it again. You can only blame so much on a knee problem. I'm not saying Cain is looking for an excuse, he never has in regards to that fight, what I'm saying is both healthy, I'm still picking JDS anyway.
Giving Bones enough time to move up, who would you take in Cain v. JDS at HW?
Probably Bones. Cain would be a great fight for Jones though because I do think he'd get him in trouble and we'd get to see how Jones fought through it. We got to see that in the armbar from Vitor and Jones amazed us. So, I think it could be recipe for an amazing fight. Jones gets in trouble, gets bloodied up, whatever, comes back and wins the fight. Drama. I think Jones vs. Daniel Cormier is a great fight too and I think we'll see it at some point.
Does rampage go to the WSOF after his next fight? what impact does he have ?
Maybe. Not sure what he'd ask for and what WSOF would pay. Typically, it doesn't make sense for these small organizations to overpay for one fighter, but if it were a case where they just want to get their name out there, promote Rampage for one fight, get some brand recognition, it could happen depending on the price. What impact does he have? I'm not sure that much. People would still watch him fight in WSOF but not sure they'd stick around for future WSOF fights once he's gone.
Iron chin and we haven't mentioned the Spider? He's been hit plenty and never hurt. Nelson is a beast, especially with that new chin guard of a beard. Could they make facial hair illegal?
Ha ... no. And I did think about Anderson when it got brought up but we don't really think of Chael or Stephan Bonnar as power punches. Been awhile since I've watched the Dan Henderson fights, can't remember what kind of shots he took in those. What we do know is he is incredibly confident in his chin. He let Bonnar hit him. Legitimately let Bonnar wind up and hit him in the face. Crazy.
Are we ever going to see Todd Duffee again? Outside of his mouth, he had a lot of up-side.
Man, I wish we could see Todd Duffee again, but long story short, from everything I've heard about Duffee he's not going to make it longterm in an organization like UFC. Wish him the best. Maybe the most potential I've seen in a fighter since I started covering it but ... just too many outside issues.
Does Rumble get back into the UFC with a impressive win ?
Yeah, Rumble will get back eventually. Too talented, good manager, with a good team, has a fan base, young. He'll be back.
After hearing Jones say he wants to beat chael, hendo, and gus as well as move up to heavyweight by late 2013 i think JDS/Jones is much closer then Silva/Jones (assuming JDS is still champ)
Nah, I disagree. Jones may have said he wants to move up to heavyweight in a chat that was filled with people who want him to do it, but in reality, I don't think he's that close to moving up and I don't think he should. He's 25. He's got sooooo much time to move up. Why move up and start fighting bigger guys and risk his health this early when he's doing so well? Nike deal. UFC belt. TUF deal. Why move up now? He will, because he'll challenge himself and it will grow into his body naturally anyway, but not right now.
over or under 6 months until we see Eddie Alvarez in the UFC? same question for Rumble Johnson's return?
Under on Alvarez. Over on Johnson.
Any news on what Strikeforce is going to do within the next few months?
Nothing concrete. My guess is the deal is extended into 2013. But right now, that's just a guess.
Why is the UFC wasting the prime of Daniel Cormier? It's really mind blowing.
They're trying. They worked it out to send Frank Mir to Strikeforce. They dissolved his entire division. He'll be in UFC soon.
do you see anderson silva retiring after his next 2 fights?
I don't. He's still so good and when the guy fights, it seems like he enjoys it. Makes tremendous money doing it. I give him at least five more fights easily, probably more.
That said, the rumors about him wanting to retire sounded very real earlier this year. But rumors are rumors. And even if AS talks about retiring, actually doing it is a different story. We all saw BJ retire after the Nick Diaz fight, too.
Just wondering if you knew the details of Jones accepting the fight with Chael. Everyone including him knows he doesn't deserve it but he finally budgedto fight CS. Dana's check book work that well? He's on a great streak of beating all the former champs and I know he wants to add Dan Henderson to that list as his request was after finishing Belfort.
He does want to add Dan, I really get that sense, too. On the conference call with Chael and Dana after the fight was announced, Jon brought up Dan's name during the first question he was asked. I think it was just about timing, he knew he'd be out of the cage with that injury for awhile, the TUF deal was a nice offer and they wanted Chael on there for the ratings.
Disagree re: Silva and retiring soon. When a fighter starts talking about their "legacy" you know they're thinking about hanging it up soon.
Ben Henderson talks about his legacy.
If Rumble does come back at what weight?
Should be at 185 in my opinion but his camp says he likes 205 and he's committed to adjusting to that weight, perfecting his body at it.
If aldo bests edgar, do you see dana white trying to put together a possible super fight with aldo vs. cruz or aldo vs. henderson?
Nah, I don't think so. Not right now. All of a sudden, 145 is totally stacked. I love Cub Swanson. Love Erik Koch. Dustin Poirier will get better, he's got loads of potential. Korean Zombie is very talented. I don't think he matches up well with Aldo, but he's talented. Chad Mendes is still growing. We all kinda knew what would happen in that right in Brazil, but if he's improving he's going to be a tough out for anyone. Lots of options for Aldo.
Also, I think Maynard has the best shot to beat Benson. One of the few guys that Henderson can't "bully" around.
Maynard doesn't have the gas tank to keep up with Hendo. If you like Maynard in that fight, it's because he has power. He can clip Henderson, which, Henderson actually does get hit. He's offensively minded, so you can clip him. But other than that, I think Hendo beats Maynard in just about every other category.
Based solely on trash talking and entertanment, wouldn't Rampage/Sonnen been the better choice than Jones/Sonnen?
They tried, according to reports. Rampage didn't want it.
Come on, Bendo talking legacy and Silva talking legacy are two completely different things from two fighters in completely different parts of their careers. You can do better than that...
Okay, but I don't really think it matters. EVERYONE talks to Anderson about his legacy, it's only a matter of time he talks about it himself. Jon Jones talks about his legacy. GSP talks about his legacy. It doesn't necessarily mean he's out the door. Maybe I'm wrong, but the fact he wants a super fight with GSP for his legacy isn't a tip to me he's about ready to retire.
Can you talk about Michael Chandler's potential in the UFC? only man to beat Eddie A in a long time
He's definitely got the potential to stay the Bellator champ for awhile. He's got that wrestling base you want. He's gritty. He's got a gas tank. His boxing has improved dramatically under Gil Martinez. His development has looked a lot like Gray Maynard's actually. He can throw power punches. I want to say, and this is off top of my head, he's a bit small for division? He's still a little raw right now too. But he's talented. I like Chandler.
How many questions do you get about the Flyweight division on a weekly basis?
That would be the first this week.
Alvarez, Rockhold, Melendez: which one goes the furthest in the UFC?
Rockhold. Rockhold. Rockhold.
How big do you think JJ will get when he moves to HW? He looks like Overeem when he was LHW. JJ better start eating the horse meat
He won't got the horse meat route. You'll never see JJ at 265. I'd guess he tops out at 245.
Alright, let's wrap for the day. Thanks for the great questions as always guys. Hit me on Twitter whenever, @bokamotoESPN and have a good Halloween. See ya next week.