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February 7, 4:00 PM ET
Chat with KC Joyner

KC Joyner
  (4:00 PM)

Good afternoon! Let's talk some football!

Randy (Tha Dimas)

Wuts Up Scientist, Where do u think Bradshaw will end up and where does he end up at the end next year among RB's?

KC Joyner
  (4:01 PM)

He should be a pretty solid draw on the market, as the RB draft class is mediocre at best. Wouldn't it be funny if he ended up as a Jet?

Frank (Minneapolis) [via mobile]

KC, how much more impressive of a season is it now that the news came out that Adrian Peterson had a sports hernia and still participated in 77 percent of the offensive snaps in the final five games including the wild card game?

KC Joyner
  (4:02 PM)

I'll never be able to look at sporting achievements the same way after reading Bill Simmons' Grantland article this past weekend. Having said that, All Day is an absolute physical phenom and what he has been able to do the past year is simply incredible.

Derek (Chicago)

Do you think Cary Williams should have been ejected in the Super Bowl and do you think he will be fined for pushing the ref?

KC Joyner
  (4:03 PM)

Yes to both questions. That was an issue for Boger's crew during the season and it leads to the question of why he was given the Super Bowl spot in the first place.

Keeper Help! (CT)

First year keeper, can keep 2- Jamaal Charles, Dez, or Gronk. We get bonus points for 40 and 50 yard runs and catches. Thanks!

KC Joyner
  (4:04 PM)

FFB questions in February! Amazing. Keep Gronk because quality FFB TEs are a rare commodity. Would keep Charles over Dez for the same reason.

Derek (Chicago)

The 49er coaches have been rumored to really like Ertz from Stanford. Do you think they trade up to get him in the first round and then draft a DT later due to the depth of the positions and Delanie Walker probably leaving?

KC Joyner
  (4:05 PM)

It's possible they could move up to take him but Levine Toilolo is another Stanford TE who is every bit as talented as Ertz. Might be a better move to wait and see if Toilolo is there later on.

Derrick (Garden City)

Hello KC, do you think that Tannehill is the long term answer in Miami and how does he compare with the other rookie QBs that played this year?

KC Joyner
  (4:06 PM)

Put it this way - he's the 2013 answer for Miami. He's not shown enough to say he's a franchise QB, as he still makes too many errors.

Craig (Braintree, MA)

KC, I haven't been able to find out about what would have happened if the refs in the Super Bowl would have called a holding penalty on the safety play. Would the Ravens have had to kick from their 10 yard line instead of the 20?

KC Joyner
  (4:08 PM)

My understanding of it is that since the holding penalty would be enforced on the play (it would be what caused the safety), it wouldn't be enforced on the free kick. Having said that, I'm not 100% certain that is the correct answer.

Luke (Australia)

G'day KC, what's your view on Matt Barkley? He's been sliding down big boards all year and I can't help feel that this is a bit unjustified. Was he really that bad last year? I'd be more than happy if the Cardinals took Barkley at 7

KC Joyner
  (4:09 PM)

G'Day to you as well! Agree on Barkley. His stock has taken a hit from USC's 2012 performance but a lot of that had to do with subpar coaching and playcalling and because Barkley played worse (he actually played better in many ways).

John (Los Angeles)

Do The Metrics support the candidacy of David Wilson as a #1 RB, or is a timeshare situation inevitable for the Giants backfield?

KC Joyner
  (4:10 PM)

From what the TFS metrics have seen thus far, it's still an up in the air question as to whether Wilson can be a #1 RB. Having said that, even if the Giants have to use two or three RBs to share the workload, that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Mike Ho (Hong Kong)

Hello KC, which FA should the Dolphins try hardest to retain: Long, Bush, Randy Starks, Hartline, or Sean Smith?

KC Joyner
  (4:11 PM)

In general, RBs and slot WRs can be replaced, so that rules out Bush and Hartline. Long is aging, injured and wants too much money. That leaves Starks and Smith and since CBs are more valuable than DL, he should be the pick.

Chris Fiegler (Latham,NY)

What is the Best & the Worst Super Bowl that you have ever seen?

KC Joyner
  (4:12 PM)

This one last Sunday ranks right up there. Still would rate Super Bowl XXV as the best and Super Bowl XXIV as the worst.

KC Joyner
  (4:12 PM)

From an entertainment perspective, mind you.

Tommy (NOLA)

how would you rank these athletic qbs keapernick, cam, wilson, RG3(assuming 100%)? and also do you see Terrell pryor getting the start in oakland

KC Joyner
  (4:13 PM)

RG3, Kaepernick, Newton, Wilson. Pryor as a starter is a hard place to get to.

Bert (St. Paul, MN)

Do you have a take on Giovani Bernard?

KC Joyner
  (4:14 PM)

From what I've seen of Bernard, he's a solid but not great RB. His GBYPA probably has a mid-range ceiling in the NFL.

Candy (Slippery Rock)

Hi KC, what do you think of Brian Hartline and do you think the Dolphins should try and resign him if he is looking for about 6 million a year?

KC Joyner
  (4:16 PM)

Hartline is a underrated receiver in that he is much better on vertical passes and in battling tough CBs than he gets credit for. Having said that, a $6 million payday is too much to pay for someone who really isn't a WR1.

Champ Bailey (Scorched)

Should the Broncos trade a 1st and a 3rd for Revis? Then in 2 years I can move to safety...

KC Joyner
  (4:17 PM)

If only they had a Clinton Portis to trade away. The Jets could use a RB and the Broncos could once again build their secondary via trade. The 1st and 3rd might be a bit too high of a price but they do need an upgrade back there and that move could therefore be a Super Bowl winning move.

Randy (Tha Dimas)

What do u think Reid can do in KC, Their record sucked last year but if u look at the talent u would think he has to have a winning record at the least? ur thoughts?

KC Joyner
  (4:18 PM)

Reid in 2012 coached below his talent level. The Chiefs in 2012 played below their talent level. In 2013, that mix will see both of them perform at closer to their talent level and the Chiefs should win 6-8 games next year.

Derek (Chicago)

Where do you think Jared Cook will end up?

KC Joyner
  (4:19 PM)

Tough to say because which Jared Cook is a team getting? The one who can post numbers that match up with the best TEs in the NFL or the one who looks like Joe Average TE? That's what GMs are going to be asking and it will take someone willing to take that chance. Wonder if Chicago might be interested?

Scott (Northglenn, CO)

2 keepers KC, lose the round they were drafted in (FAs are 8th rd. comp) - Ray Rice (1st), Graham (2nd), Doug Martin (4th), CK (8th), Luck (10th), Cobb (14th)

KC Joyner
  (4:21 PM)

Rice is getting longer in the tooth, so he's a no. Cobb may have upside limitations, so no. QBs are relatively easy to come by, so no on Luck and CK. Keep Graham and Martin.

Steven (Kingsport, TN)

Hola from the Smokey Mountains! Biggest Titan need? Replace putrid guard play or safeties who can tackle with at least league average ball skills?

KC Joyner
  (4:22 PM)

Hello again! The Smokey Mountains do bring back many good memories. Nothing like waking up to see the fog lifting off of them. How about replacing both for Tennessee? The draft is chock full of quality safeties and either FA or the Draft should help them come up with a solid guard (which would be a huge upgrade).

Majeed (San Diego)

KC, Been a long time my friend. Which WR is best for our Fins to acquire: Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, or Bowe?

KC Joyner
  (4:23 PM)

Hey, great to have you back in the chat! The Fins need a better vertical game and Wallace is the best vertical WR of that group.

Luke (Australia)

Is Collin Klein worth a late flyer pick for some teams? Yes, he's not a great passer, but he runs well, and seems to me to be a right handed Tim Tebow. But in the right offense Tebow was successful. I'm not saying Klein should be drafted to be a starter, but he could be a potential backup/prospect QB. A team like Minnesota makes sense to me. Strong running game, indoor field, below average starting QB. Could you see Klein being useful in the NFL?

KC Joyner
  (4:25 PM)

Sure do. He can useful in multiple ways. First, he could serve as a backup for a team that runs a read-option. Second, he could serve as a scout QB for teams looking to prepare to face read-option QBs. Third, he's a heckuva goal line threat and could be used in that arena.

Steven (Kingsport, TN)

Double Smokey Mountain how's it going? As a follow-up, Barkley is a terrible fit for Bruce Arians' offense.

KC Joyner
  (4:25 PM)

Would probably agree with that in general, although Barkley's vertical limitations are a bit overstated. He's not the perfect fit, let's put it that way.

Randy (Tha Dimas)

Is Luck a top 8 QB next year?

KC Joyner
  (4:27 PM)

Talking FFB or overall? Overall, no, as he has accuracy & bad decision issues and doesn't have enough WR talent around him. In FFB, it is quite likely he'll end up at that level. Have to wonder what the loss of Arians does to his value, however.

Scott (Northglenn, CO)

I know it was the Pro Bowl, but did we see what Rudolph the Red Zone tight end can do with a quality QB?

KC Joyner
  (4:27 PM)

Rudolph the Red Zone tight end - now that's a Christmas song Vikings fans can get used to!

Tommy (NOLA)

this past year what teams did you think were the hardest to stop offensively?

KC Joyner
  (4:28 PM)

It would have to be the read option teams if only because defenses haven't figured out a way to switch from gap responsibility to assignment football on the fly.

mike (new jersey)

what should a steelers fan reaction be if they select manti teo?

KC Joyner
  (4:29 PM)

That question is just begging for a comedic response, but I'll refrain and say they should be happy with the pick if Pittsburgh can find a way to get the most value out of Teo's coverage/ballhawking skills.

Derek (Chicago)

How much more dangerous would the 49ers be if they acquired Devin Hester and were able to use him exclusively as a returner?

KC Joyner
  (4:30 PM)

Depends on if they are getting Hester in his prime. There is evidence he might not be quite the player he was just 2-3 years ago.

Mike (Fallon, NV)

Hi KC! What do you think is the last piece of the puzzle the Broncos need to win the Super Bowl?

KC Joyner
  (4:30 PM)

A free safety who won't take a bad angle on a long pass late in a playoff game?

joe (pittsburgh)

should the steelers sign keenan lewis or mike Wallace?

KC Joyner
  (4:31 PM)

If they haven't burned the bridge with Wallace, they sure have charred it. Sign Lewis and make sure the D stays as strong as possible.

Steven (Kingsport (TN))

Less concerned with Barkley's vertical passing in Arians' O; more concerned that he is not big and physical to hold the ball as much as an Arians QB would (thinking Luck & Roethlisberger).

KC Joyner
  (4:32 PM)

Excellent point. It does take a big QB to take the hits the Arians offense is going to force a QB to take. Barkley would be a better fit with a team that runs an offense like, say, the Saints.

Scott (Northglenn, CO)

Chud's offenses has always resulted in big numbers for the TE...is Jordan Cameron good enough to be this guy?

KC Joyner
  (4:33 PM)

Got a lot of faith in Chudzinski and Cameron. Not saying Cameron is going to be a great TE but Chud will find a way to make him a top 15, and maybe top 10, TE.

Eric (Long Island)

Hey Kc! Long time no talk but read the chats every wk! Out of Andy Levitre and Jairius Byrd which free agent is a bigger priority for the Bills? Also, what do you think they need to do to become a playoff contender?

KC Joyner
  (4:34 PM)

Levitre, as their O line can run block quite well and safeties are plentiful in this year's draft. They need to get more physical against the run, as that issue has plagued them for years. That and getting more vertical threats on offense. If they take care of those two issues, Buffalo is a playoff contender.

matt (denver)

would chase Thomas be a instant starter for a D like the steelers especially if they cut Harrison?

KC Joyner
  (4:35 PM)

Instant starter - just add a Steelers uniform. Thomas would be a great fit in Pittsburgh.

Jacob (NYC)

Hey, KC. Where do you rank Flacco? in the 7-10 range, or is that too high?

KC Joyner
  (4:36 PM)

Yeah, probably closer to 7 than 10. As someone said to me on Twitter, Flacco may not be elite but he is a franchise QB.

Scott (Northglenn, CO)

As a Broncos fan, that still hurts KC...rank these potential upgrades at the S postion...Ed Reed, Dashon Goldson, Kenny Phillips, Laron Landry...

KC Joyner
  (4:37 PM)

Tough list in that they aren't exactly the same types of safeties. Reed would be tops for a team looking for ballhawking. Goldson would be tops for a team looking for punishing hitter. Phillips and Landry are best suited as box safeties.

Randy (Tha Dimas)

Do u think theres a chance that bradshaw lands in GB?

KC Joyner
  (4:37 PM)

It sure would be a good fit. They need an upgrade at RB and Bradshaw could provide that assuming he can stay healthy. It might be one of those good 1-2 year deals.

joe (pittsburgh)

should the steelers sign or take a look at ahmad bradshaw?

KC Joyner
  (4:38 PM)

As frustrating as their backfield was last year, Pittsburgh has bigger issues than upgrading at RB. They should only sign Bradshaw if the price is right.

John (Los Angeles)

A rare TE blocking skills question -- how well does Rudolph the Red Zone Tight End handle it when the opposing defense is Blitzen?

KC Joyner
  (4:39 PM)

Sounds like someone still has some egg nog in his refrigerator.

Doug (MI)

Megatron > Wallace

KC Joyner
  (4:39 PM)

You know what's funny about this? This guy posts this every single week. It's usually one of the first posts in the chat. Got to like persistence.

Steven (Kingsport (TN))

One thing I could appreciate about Phillips is once he gets to a guy; said play is over, great tackler. Being a Titans fan watching Whiffin Griffin makes you appreciate the small things like tackling and correct angles.

KC Joyner
  (4:40 PM)

Whiffin Griffin - this chat is coming up with one cool nickname after another!

Jacob (NYC)

What do you metrics say of the Ravens CBs? Is Cory Graham a starter? Is Cary Williams as bad as people make him out to be?

KC Joyner
  (4:41 PM)

Williams had a subpar season, as he stayed at or around the double-digit mark in YPA for much of the season. Having said that, sometimes CBs have down years and he's worth giving a second chance to. Graham would be a borderline starter. Webb was having a great year before he got hurt.

Roger (OH)

KC, a lot of people have questioned how good of a fit Jabaal Sheard will be in Ray Horton's 3-4 scheme, since he'll have to make the move to OLB. One of the main concerns people have expressed is the adjustment of being able to drop back into coverage. Do you think Sheard has the tools to be a good 3-4 OLB or do you have concerns as well?

KC Joyner
  (4:42 PM)

Sheard has a ton of talents but coverage just doesn't look like it will be one of them. It's not the best move for him, that's for sure, but he sure will have an impact against the run.

pat (new york)

if Wallace leaves, what receivers could the steelers target in the mid rounds?

KC Joyner
  (4:43 PM)

There aren't any WRs that look to have Wallace's vertical skills, but one WR I like for mid round status is Stedman Bailey. He was better than Tavon Austin in some ways last year and yet his draft stock is still considered to be much lower than Austin's.

Jacob (NYC)

And has Ed Reed's abilities fallen off dramatically or are QBs getting better? If he started all 16 games, he used to be a lock for 8 INTs

KC Joyner
  (4:44 PM)

They have fallen off to an extent but some of that probably has to do with the Ravens CB issues. If a team can target a CB, it doesn't have to go at Reed and that was something teams could do for much of 2012.

Randy (Tha Dimas)

What are ur thoughts on the Muscle Hampster? will he take a step back next season since Defenses now have NFL tape on him? And just for the hell of it where would u rank him among FFB RB's for next year? Great chat btw

KC Joyner
  (4:46 PM)

Well, first thought is he doesn't like to be called Muscle Hamster (seriously, it's a nickname he's not much for). He should get better this year since TB's blocking was atrocious early on and got better as the season progressed. Early pick has him as a top 10 RB easy and probably closer to a top 5 RB.

Jacob (NYC)

What do your metrics say about Osmele (sp?), Ravens o-lineman who played RT and then switched to guard for playoffs? He seems to be a better fit at guard and said he was in preseason, but he seemed serviceable at RT.

KC Joyner
  (4:47 PM)

Serviceable at RT but someone who has too many pass blocking issues to be counted on as a starter. Like the move to guard in his case.

jack (california)

which player do bacarri Rambo and jonathan cyprien compare to?

KC Joyner
  (4:48 PM)

Not very familiar with Cyprien. Rambo can ballhawk but has issues in coverage, so he might be like one of the Eagles safeties.

Randy (Tha Dimas)

I dont make the nickname's up i just use em

KC Joyner
  (4:48 PM)

I know. Just mentioning that because evidently Martin is really making a deal out of being called that. Just trying to spread the word :-)

Brian (London)

Is Wilson a Franchise (not elite) QB?

KC Joyner
  (4:49 PM)

My vote is it is too early to tell. Teams are eventually going to figure out how to keep him in the pocket and unless/until he shows he can win as a passing QB when need be, it's hard to place him at that level.

Jacob (NYC)

What are you thoughts on Bernard Pierce? Seemed quicker to the hole than Ray Rice, but Rice was much better receiver.

KC Joyner
  (4:50 PM)

Thoughts are that Baltimore should run a platoon backfield next year. By season's end, Pierce was definitely the better RB.

Paul (Mooresville, NC)

Hey KC, rumblings coming out of South Beach that Jared Odrick is a better fit as a 3-4 DE as opposed to a 4-3 DE and that he might hit the trade block... Wise to remove a dominant run-support end (and former 1st round pick) from one of the leagues most dominant front-7's last year?

KC Joyner
  (4:51 PM)

My vote would be that Odrick can fit in either scheme. Wouldn't trade him.

Scott (Northglenn, CO)

Are you kind of surprised by the officials letting the Harbaugh's get away with their over-the-top antics in the SB? Defintiely need to tone it down...

KC Joyner
  (4:52 PM)

Truth be told, I was so disgusted with the poor officiating in the Super Bowl that I didn't mind the Harbaughs giving them grief.

Steven (Kingsport (TN))

Are you going to be doing any draft labs this year?

KC Joyner
  (4:52 PM)

No labs per se but will definitely be doing a number of draft articles. Not sure when they will start, still awaiting confirmation from the editors as to dates.

Steven (Kingsport (TN))

Got to credit the community at Music City Miracles for Whiffin Griffin

KC Joyner
  (4:53 PM)

Pass along our thanks to them!

John (Los Angeles)

Would Sheard *have* to move to OLB in a 3-4? Couldn't the Browns just use him as a DE, and acquire linebacker(s) to play OLB?

KC Joyner
  (4:54 PM)

Couldn't agree more. The guy is an impact DL. He's a better fit in a one-gap system but two-gapping is certainly in his wheelhouse. Maybe it's that he doesn't want to play two-gap?

Scott (Northglenn, CO)

So should a penalty have been called on Jimmy Smith?

KC Joyner
  (4:55 PM)

Absolutely. An offensive pass interference call could also have been made. It just isn't right to let that level of contact not go unpunished early in the game and them let it go unpunished late in the game.

Aaron (Arizona)

How good of a CB do you think Dominique Rodgers Cromartie is?

KC Joyner
  (4:56 PM)

If he's put into a defense that is willing to let him ballhawk while giving up a big play now and again, he can be a CB who posts 6-8 picks. That's the type of D he probably is best suited for. Ask him to be a shutdown cover CB and what you get is what he showed in 2012.

tom (atlanta)

who does Stedman bailey compare most to?

KC Joyner
  (4:56 PM)

Hard to say. Steve Johnson is the first name that comes to mind.

Aaron (Arizona)

Sheard is too small to play DE in a 3-4! Gotta be an OLB?

KC Joyner
  (4:58 PM)

Yeah, at first glance it would seem that he is too small. Guess I just have a lot of faith in his ability to overcome that. Let's put it this way - if he found his way to NE, we all know Belichick would find a way to get the most out of his talents. Let's hope his coaches can find that level of creativity.

George (Wyoming)

Do you think Matt Barkley would be a good QB to run Doug Marrones West Coast Offense for the Buffalo Bills? Or does the cold weather scare you about bring Barkley to Buffalo? Marrone will run a Saints style of offense I Believe?

KC Joyner
  (4:59 PM)

Barkley to Buffalo - that sounds like a great fit. Not too worried about the cold weather, as QBs can adjust (Jim Kelly went to college at Miami, FL). Would like to see the Bills line him up with some better WRs but that can be added down the road.

Sam (NO)

Can the Saint's defense be salvaged?

KC Joyner
  (5:00 PM)

Sure can. Part of that salvaging could be having the offense take some pressure off. That didn't look to be a goal last year (Brees is stat-happy, after all) but that should change with Payton back in command.

Paul (Mooresville, NC)

Is Jennings-to-Miami all but a done deal? I fell Dwayne Bowe would benefit Miami's offense more than the aging Jennings would, even with his familiarity in Philbins offense.

KC Joyner
  (5:02 PM)

Don't have any inside info on that but given their history together, it would seem that this is the most likely move. And even if it isn't the best move (Wallace would be the better WR for Miami), it should still be a terrific upgrade as long as Jennings is healthy.

KC Joyner
  (5:03 PM)

That hour went by pretty quick, didn't it? Before hitting the road, should note that the TFS material is always posted on Twitter @KCJoynerTFS. Thanks again for all of the questions and hope to see you all here next week!