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Hey jake how's it going? The last time the sooners played the Seminoles Clint Tricket was the quarterback and we dominated him! Now that he's at West Virginia do you see the same thing happening this year?
Actually, Trickett had that fluky TD pass that tied the game in the fourth quarter. The one OU dominated was EJ Manuel. Regardless, Trickett is not beating OU in Norman. Not unless he has Tavon Austin and Steadman Bailey to throw to, which last time I checked were with the St. Louis Rams.
Jake, does the Sooner defense begin to make larger improvements in year 2 of Mike Stoops? I remember it took most of the 2000 season for the defense to really begin to gel even though that team Williams, Calmus, Marshall, and Strait.
Yeah, but that 2000 defense had Williams, Calmus, Marshall and Strait. What does the 2013 defense have after Colvin? No one anywhere near the caliber of those guys, who were All-American-type players. The 2013 defense might end up being better. But I wouldn't go to Vegas with it.
will ou have a top ten class with so much talent close to home? who is our next commit?
It's possible, especially if they pick up guys like Parker and Barrett. I'm putting a chat-wide moratorium on your second question.
Who is going to be our next commit?
See what I mean?
With the arrest, is my dream of Kendal Thompson starting shattered? Also, I like our LB's. I don't understand the negativity towards them. You can't say they are terrible if they don't even get on the field more than 15% of the time. The talent may be down, but they still need a chance to try.
You won't see any negativity from me. I was clamoring for them to play late last season, and I believe it's the strongest position unit on the defense this year. Nelson is solid, and Shannon and Franklin are surging. They can all run, too, which should help against the spread offenses of the league.
Jake, is it safe to say the QB race is officially over with the incident involving Kendal late last week?
I don't believe the arrest will have a major bearing on the QB race. This was how it was going to shake out before the arrest and how it will shake out after: Bell is going to start the opener. The job is to lose. If he plays well, he'll keep it. If he struggles early, Thompson or Knight could get a shot.
Does thompson's arrest solidify him being relegated to the #3 QB slot?
Not necessarily, but I will say this: The QB battle to watch in the fall won't be between Bell and Thompson/Knight, but rather between Thompson and Knight. Bell is going to start the opener. We know this, even if it's not official. What we don't know is who will be given the first crack off the sideline should Bell sputter. That's why the No. 2 battle is more intriguing to me.
Trickett played better against us than EJ did. We didnt dominate him
Right, FSU didn't do anything until Trickett came in.
Jake, Chances OU gets both Parker and Quick? I think its a pretty good chance, and if OU can get a DT or 2 this class is shaping up pretty well on defense.
Bob P. likes their chances, which makes me like their chances, too. The class is ranked 21 at the moment, but like I tweeted last week, there's considerable upside.
I have nothing personal against Kendall Thomas, but if the QB race was indeed only between him and Blake Bell, I'm ready to declare a winner. We need a QB that can be relied on to take care of his stuff on and off the field, not an inconsiderate individual who would selfishly jeopardize the entire season.
Fair enough, but among us didn't get a little too drunk in college? I'm not ready to write him off over one mistake.
Regarding Stoops' comments on the SEC--what he said is true; the bottom of the SEC blows. The top of the SEC is great. But these SEC blog-boards with SEC-blowhards saying that every team in the SEC is better than every team in the Big 12, etc. is ridiculous. Having said that, in this SEC-centric world we live in, Stoops gained no points by stating the truth.
Eh, was it really the truth? Guess what, Iowa State and Texas Tech have the same records as Kentucky and Tennessee playing in the SEC. The reason the 5-6 teams at the bottom of the SEC have such lousy records is because they get beat up by Bama, A&M, LSU, Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, etc... Just ask Missouri, which had about the same team as 2011, but got pummeled by its SEC schedule this last season.
Would Miciah Quick play WR or CB if he were to sign with OU?
Yeah Kendall was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Still, if he didn't know the position he occupies as potential OU starting QB, now he does. It's national news.
Right. You can't do what he did as the QB of a major program. Have to be smarter than that. But I'm not ready to throw him out on the street for it, either.
Is Stephen Parker a must get recruiti for the Sooners?
I think so. If he and Deondre Clark both ended up in the SEC, how would that look?
any news on quincy Russell getting to ou yet?
Nothing concrete, but all signs are pointing to him ending up in Norman. You never really know with JUCOs, but...
Whoah Jake. RE: the SEC. How about asking Texas A&M? They did fine in the SEC. Texas Tech and Iowa State do poorly because they get beat up by the OU's Texases and OSUs of the world. The argument works both ways.
A&M not the same program it was in the Big 12. New coach, new QB. Completely different team.
Kentucky, Mississippi State, Auburn, Tennessee...yes, they truly blow.
And Tennessee and Auburn have national titles in the last 15 years. How many do Iowa State and Tech have?
Jake, it seems that Bob Stoops is a lot more vocal now days about his opinions than before? He's been more outspoken on topics like player compensation and the SEC recently. Why do you think he's being more outspoken these days?
He's always spoken out on issues. His SEC ones just got more attention. I think he tackled the SEC issue because he knows that the 2014 playoff will have a subjective component. Call it a preemptive strike.
A shameful plug of my twitter account, but why does the SEC have so much conference pride? I've never seen rival schools celebrate each other's success so much. I'd be sick to my stomach if Texas, OK State or another knucklehead program from the Big XII won the whole thing.
What else do they have in Mississippi besides conference pride?
A&M: New QB, that was recruited to play in the Big 12. A coach that was a Big 12 coach. No one of the SEC ilk. Am I wrong?
Sumlin was in Houston, and Johnny Football was redshirting in 2011.
Was out of town most of last week and didn't keep up on twitter comments and postings. What are your thoughts on Stoops SEC comments? I understand his point, but most don't care about the bottom of a league. Especially if that league is on a 7 year NC run.
When a league has won the last 7 national titles, and had 6 of the top 12 teams in the country last season, all other arguments are moot, in my opinion. The SEC has the best conference. It's not close. And if someone like Stoops wants to do something about it, he needs to beat the SEC in a game that has something on the line.
with ND losing 25 plus seniors and ou spanking tesas the past two years is it safe to say ou can go 10-2 at worst?
I would set the over/under for wins next year at 9 1/2. So no, OU could easily go 9-3. They'll probably be underdogs in South Bend and Stillwater.
What is your take on Tony Feo? Will he start right away or is he added depth on an injury prone line?
Depth. Same reason they signed Dionte Foster. They do not want to be scrambling again up front like they've had to at times the past 4-5 years.
Hey Jake, what under the radar players do you think will be the most pleasant surprises by season's end? I'm going with Cavil and Thomas.
Some other candidates: Hatari Byrd, Keith Ford, Sam Grant, Aaron Franklin, Trey Franks, Cortez Johnson.
We seem to be going nowhere in Texas in recruiting with Texas,Tam,LSU,TCU, Baylor all in the mix or stomping us. Do you see this getting better or worse?
Still early in the game. OU has always closed well.
What can you tell us about Tom Wort and the Tennessee Titans?
Failed his physical according to reports there. Wort has been dealing with a hamstring strain. Probably didn't help him. Unfortunate.
Do you think the BIG 12 needs to work on thier conference pride among fans? Not many if any BIG 12 fans chant "BIG 12" over and over in football games.
Not really something you can work on. Something that's organic. And it's hard to have conference pride when 4 programs have left in the last 3 years.
Put Roy Finch on the field and great things will happen!
Who is Roy Finch?
I won't belabor the point.Let's just ask, what have Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Arkansas done in the last decade that Big 12 teams haven't?
OU won a natl. title in 2000; doesn't mean i think the current version of OU is anything special. I'm concerned about this year (and since this year hasn't started, we default to last year). Last year's cellar-dwellars in the SEC blew, and yes, they blew worse than Tech or Iowa State.
Fine, but who cares about the bottom 6 when the top 6 was so dominant?
You mentioned OU going 9-3 a strong possibility. With that said, which games on the schedule do you see as swing games?
TCU, Texas, at Notre Dame, at Oklahoma State and at Baylor on a Thursday night are all losable games, especially with a new QB. OU could do better, though. 10-2/11-1 is not out of the realm of possibility.
The SEC is the best conference right now, agreed. But the "6 of the top 12 teams in the conference" argument is partly self-fulfilling prophecy, i.e., "we the media thing the SEC is great, therefore, the SEC wins all ranking disputes".....a 1 loss SEC team is rated over any and all 1 loss teams from any conference in the country.
I might agree with that in 2011. I thought Oklahoma State could have played with LSU. Not last year. Those 6 SEC teams were tough. You could make the case that Alabama, Georgia and Texas A&M were the three best teams in the country.
I think Jake's point was to SEC fans: root for your teams, not your conference. Big 12 fans do it the right way: we don't get excited over Texas' or OSU successes. SEC cellar-dwellers need to concentrate on their own success (or lack of it) and stop riding on the team-of-the-year's success.
How much in new revenue is OU poised to make annually from its new TV and rights deals? 10 million per year?
You talking about the Big 12's TV deal? Think it's somewhere around 22-23 million per team.
Are there any 2013 players that are in danger of not making it to Norman? I'm thinking mostly about Cody Thomas (minor league baseball), Kerrick Huggins (academics) and Quincey Russell.
In order, from least likely to most likely: 1. Huggins, 2. Russell, 3. Thomas
Wouldn't OU solve every one of its problems, including the SEC and BCS griping, by recruiting about four 4-star linemen every year? That's sure easy to type, a little harder to pull off.
You just might be on to something...
Its pretty simple, the SEC created this perception by winning NC games. If OU or any Big 12 team wants that type of league status by the media, public or whoever, then start winning meaningul games and a few NC's.
What are the chances IF Knight was named starting QB, that Bell would have similar packages he had last 2 seasons? Or even knight in pistol with Millard on one side and Bell on the other with Williams behind? Nothing they couldn't do on that package.
I don't think you'll see gimmick packages, because the base offense will be too similar. Big difference between Landry Jones and Blake Bell in terms of running ability. These other 3 guys, not so much.
Baylor on a Thursday night? Was OU at Tulsa (2006?) the last time OU played a regular season game not on the weekend?
OU played at Tulsa on a Friday night in 2007.
Trey Millard - I can't wait to see him get 2 to 3 touches a game this year. That was a heavy dose of sarcasm, if you couldn't tell...
Sarcasm is welcome here, especially when it comes to Millard
Should Kish be done if one of the top Arizona kids with an OU offer doesn't commit, and the linebackers don't meet expectations?
He won't be, if that's what you're asking.
Good point Michael.
Do you think the big12/SEC feud is a little hyped?
It's really more of a "the rest of college football/SEC" feud.
Have you watched any SoonerSports TV? When are they going to do something about the high school sets and design? It's bush league, especially compared to what Texas is putting out with the LHN.
The LHN is crisp, but I think they do a good job over on SSTV. The spring game broadcast was a little hard to follow, though. Too much going on.
do you think ou will pick it up in the 2014 recruiting class
Jake,I keep hearing conflicting reports concerning Alex Ross. I'm hoping that you can clarify them for me. I've read that Alex Ross looked really good in spring practice. Other, however, claim that he was sidelined for most of the scrimmages with a head injury. So which the two is it? Did he look impressive or was he rarely allowed to scrimmage?
He was not allowed to scrimmage. But he looked good in the individual drills he was allowed to participate in. Maybe that explains the conflicting info.
The set designs look like something high schools do. SSTV's quality of production is just horrid right now. They need to step it up.
I think we have to acknowledge too that when Texas is down, so is the conference generally. I almost got sick typing that but I believe a strong Texas team equals a strong Big 12. Excuse me for a minute...
No doubt. Oklahoma State/Kansas State have been carrying their weight. Time for Texas to do the same.
I'll agree on Bama, Georgia, and Texas A-M if you'll agree that in no way, shape or form were Florida, LSU, and South Carolina amongst the truly top 10 teams in the country; yet, they were there week after week after week.
If you had to put a percentage on the chance softball wins the whole enchilada, what would you say it is?
Pretty good. That team is legit.
Yes. Granting of TV rights pretty much ensures that.
In comparison to other head coaches, how much time does Bob spend helping out with recruiting, and how much could his involvement affect results?
Hard to say, but probably somewhere in the middle. Stoops is one reason why OU has been a good closing program with recruits in Jan/Feb, though.
What if this lawsuit from Maryland changes how teams can get out of tv rights deals by altering the buyout? Is OU still in the big 12 in 5 years?
That would change things quite a bit. Seems like there's always a loophole.
with guys maybe not making it to fall camp does it open up extra spots for a larger class say anywhere from 24-28
Yes, that's why OU has pursued these jucos late in the process
Jake, With the extremely high solar activity peaking and about to moving to face earth, will we be having the chat next week?
As long as the earth is still spinning, I'll be here conducting the chat
will the additions of all these joco linemen make ou a more phisical team? will any of them earn a starting job in fall camp?
No, I don't see any of these guys starting. They were recruited for instant depth.
Jake, whats your thoughts on Kendall Thompson? I dont think he should be ruled out of the starting job for this, unless its part of a larger issue he has with drinking.
Right, if this was a product of a pattern of behavior, then I'd be way more concerned. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I don't know. But this event in of itself probably will have little bearing on whether Thompson becomes a starting QB at OU down the line or not.
Jake, With the success of The Great Gatsby movie, any chance your book " I love OU, Texas sucks" will be made into a Hollywood blockbuster?:
Great idea. Who could we get to play James Allen?
Did we really get this far in a chat without any real Kish or Gabe Lynn bashing?? I'm pleasantly surprised today.
Me too. Though I fear your comment will spark an onslaught...
The Big XII also has not been doing itself many favors in bowl season. I'm not real big on bowl records because of the wildly varying momentum/motivation/matchup/location issues that come along with them, but the bowl season is undeniably the best opportunity to win games that matter. We never win the Cotton Bowl and the BCS record is mixed. To add insult to injury, the 2010 and 2011 Fiesta Bowl games came against UConn and a Stanford team that was very good, but that doesn't have the name brand recognition of the traditional powers. Most years the Big XII is around .500 in bowl season and it's tough to see that as a compelling endorsement of a league's top to bottom strength.
All this SEC hysteria goes away if someone beats them in the Big Bowl. As long as the SEC keeps reeling off titles, there's really nothing else that can be done.
Jake, I saw a Yahoo article that had D. Williams as the 1st RB in the 2014 draft. Buy it?
Seems high for a guy with one year of D-1 tape and durability concerns.
I don't understand how OU became a hard sell to (defensive-elite) recruits, the SEC's strength notwithstanding, what do you think has been the turning point?
The spread offense in the Big 12 has been very attractive to QBs/WRs. But I think it has been a turnoff for defensive recruits, and something that others have used to negatively recruit against the conference. Even Mike Stoops called the Big 12 a "finesse" league this spring. That doesn't fire up a lot of 300-pound DTs.
alot of otheres have gotten the hype of no redshirt but what about dakota austin a scrappy player comes from good texas school ? and l.j. moore. seems just as good as bird?
I like Austin. Could be a sleeper in this class.
Dont get me started on Gabe Lynn. Just kidding....wait, no I'm not.
Let's be honest, Gabe Lynn isn't being talked about because the season hasn't started. Once you see him playing, then the onslaught of bashing will begin. He's horrible.
Here we go again...
Piggybacking on Benjamin's question, is it possible that the Sooners are doing better with offensive talent because there's simply more offensive talent to be found at this point? This seems to be a trend in Big XII and Pac-12 country. Only in the SEC is the level of defensive talent higher than offensive talent.
The advent of 7-on-7 in Texas and California has improved the level of skill at the high school level in those states. No doubt.
Which of the new assistants has jumped out at you/recruits most thus far?
Bedenbaugh seems to really be connecting with guys like Ty Barrett. Not saying Montgomery and Boulware are doing bad, but seems like I hear Bedenbaugh's name more lately.
Do you think Schmitty has overstayed his welcome in Norman? There was talk of the linemen doing the same workouts as skill players. That's just asinine. We need strong linemen, not lean.
Schmitty will be in Norman for as long as Bob Stoops is.
If Kendal Thompson was holding a car key, his little incident would matter. ...
Would have been much worse.
If Mike sees the spread as being a finesse league, why doesn't OU build to pound the rock and crush some of these teams with brute force?
I think a lot of fans would love to see that.
Roy Finch could play James Allen in your movie. He could get a few carries while still in an OU uniform.
Who cares about the bottom 6 ? Now you change the arguement because he beat you ! YOU BLOW !
Jake, keep up the good work
Is the only way for the Big 12 to get back to the level of the SEC defensively to also go back to the SEC's level offensively? If so, that could also be a hard sell.
The idea is to beat the SEC in a game that matters. So far, SEC power > Big 12 finesse in the big games.
i like matt dimon more than ward he was super productive in high scool and with starters up in the air can he com in and make a inpact?
Yes, Dimon could help. I love defensive guys that were ultra-productive in high school, and Dimon was. Ward might be a little rusty having taken the year off last year, too.
When will Stoops and Heupel start promising 10-12 touches a game for Millard?
Usually happens during Big 12 media days.
Is Matt Dimon a candidate for moving inside to play DT?
Not right now. Spoke to him 2 weeks ago, and he never mentioned any position change.
Curious - that really worked for the Horns.
I think that Alabama's defense would do just fine in the Big 12. Numbers would, of course, be different, but they wouldn't be giving up 50 points and 700+ yards to anyone.
Believe it or not, my question was sarcasm-free.
That's why I posted it.
What can OU actually do in a spread league to become more desirable to defensive recruits, particularly DTs? Be frank.
Get back to a physical style of football.
Another QB race question. Talking about Bell experience. Isn't there an equal upside to having a three or four year starter?
That's why OSU named Lunt the starter last year. If all things are equal, you go with the higher upside guy. But I don't think Knight/Thompson are where Bell is right now.
He's working overtime folks!Naw, but we appreciate it.
By my question i meant: won't it take a league-wide (or at least most of them) turning away from the finesse-types on offense in order to attract the beastly D-linemen that the conference needs?
It would help, but I don't think it's a requisite. Teams in the SEC have gotten good QBs, so I don't see why the Big 12 can't get big-time DL. Wasn't that long ago OU was getting guys like Tommie Harris/Gerald McCoy/DeMarcus Granger.
Who has the bigger impact this season - Woods or Neal?
Guys, that's all the time we've got today. Appreciated the lively debate. Chat will be back next Monday, same time, same place, unless the earth stops spinning before then. See you guys and have a great week.