I loved the article you did on Audley Harrison, sad and hilarious at the same time! lol I think he is well beyond punch drunk now
Greetings Fight Freaks and welcome to the Friday boxing chat. Not a lot of fights this weekend but a big one with Kessler-Froch II on Saturday plus a nice looking FNF tonight with Delvin Rodriguez vs. Freddy Hernandez. So check out all the news stories, features and blogs from the week, check the schedule and rankings and let's get to it.
If cotto moves to 160 pounds do you see him taking on a daniel geale? Or gennady golovkin? I think its a good fight just dont know if the money will be right for him
IF -- a big IF -- Cotto goes to 160 to take a shot at a belt I think he would face Quillin. It's an easy fight to make with Golden Boy. Plus Geale is fighting Barker on HBO on Aug. 17, not on the same scheduled as Cotto, who will probably be back in September. Golovkin is on HBO vs. Macklin June 29 and dont see that happening either.
And still champion of the world...Lamont Peterson!!!
Pathetic right? Fight shoulda been AT 140.
Dan, I read that the Wlad-Povetkin fight has been moved back to October? And confirmation on when this fight takes place?
Nothing 100 percent, but yes it is likely in early October.
Knowing TR and GB's feud, is there any hope for the future? What say, is Schaeffer and Duboef's relationship like? Or is there even one?
Richard and Todd can get along but there are not going to be any fights between the companies with the exception of a possible mandatory fight that went to a purse bid for the time being or near future.
I heard a rumor that Peterson vs Judah is in the works for the fall is that true ?
This is not a rumor. This is what Schaefer told the press after the fight last week -- that he would like to make that fight for the Garcia-Matthysse undercard assuming that is also made. Date would be Sept. 7 and he would like to do the fight in Washington DC. Peterson-Judah would be a de facto consoloation match from the unofficial four-man tournament GB is doing. I like the fight just fine. I think it would be a good one and I'd like to see it. Judah and Peterson have never ducked anyone and they are still among the top 140s out there so why not? When asked about that fight at the press conference after the Matthysse fight Peterson said he would have no problem taking that fight. Knowing Judah I'm sure he would also be up for the challenge.
Dan looking at cotto posible oponnents I have to believe is Molina beat smith in july 19 th he also becomes a player in the cotto sweeptakes
I have my doubts.
Who will get the Sept. 14 date if Canelo does not ending up fighting Mayweather,Canelo or Mayweather?
Who knows? Arum says if there is no Mayweather fight on that date he is going with Bradley-Marquez on the date and that fight is signed.
Dan,Are we any closer to Mayweather-Canelo?
Nobody from either side is talking which to me is a good sign but I will believe it is done when they say it is signed.
Dan, after what happend to Cotto by Trout at 154, wouldn't you agree that he should go for someone "soft" at then perhaps a big fight (at 150lb) with Canelo, Sergio, Pac or Floyd to call it a career?
Cotto usually doesnt go soft. At this point of his career there is no point to that anyway. Cotto fights the best.
Given he was 1.5 lbs below the limit, do you think Kessler may have overtrained, and if so, how do you think it affects him tomorrow?
First off he was 1 1/4 under. Second I dont think it means anything.
Is the Mikey Garcia-Juanma fight conferences and events going to be at the Gaylord Texan like they were for Pacquiao-Margarito?
I dont know but I doubt it since the fight is actually IN Dallas not outside Dallas like the Cowboys Stadium fights.
Mythical match-up Salvador Sanchez vs Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. at 130?
Who do you got: Froch or Keesler?
I think Froch gets revenge and wins the rematch tomorrow.
Whatever happened to Mike Jones?
He applied to the Winky Wright School of Boxing Business.
Any truth to the rumor that if Broner defeats Paulie, Broner will look for a fight with Shane Mosley?
That has been mentioned as a possibility by Golden Boy. Frankly, whomever wins the June 22 fight might wind up defending against Shane, as unfortunate as that is.
I was at the Peterson fight last weekend, my first time seeing a fight at AC. What a weak crowd. Makes me wonder if AC is dead as a fight town. And, man, the broadwalk hall is crummy. They need to fix that place up.
It was a very weak crowd but I think it was more because the fighters in the main event were not well known in that area. As for Boardwalk Hall it was rennovated not too long ago and I think it's a great place for a fight.
Is that a skinny weight for Kessler? Just seems 1.5lbs under the limit might be a case of overtraining or dehydrating too much.
He has been under 168 for A LOT of his fights. He was 1.26 under. Not a big deal at all.
Any update to Deontay Wilder fighting this Summer. Couldn't Golden Boy just put him on an undercard fighting another Tomato Can to stay busy.
His whole career has been against cans but at this point they dont have anything set until he works out his legal issues.
Ortiz-Cotto? Yes please. Both guys coming off 2 losses. Both have something to prove. Both are exciting fighters. What do you think?
Here is what I wrote the other day. Cotto-Ortiz is my top choice: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/4044/who-are-the-possible-cotto-opponents
so what happens with FNF now that Loughrey has been let go? He has really developed that franchise and put on some great fights.
Somebody else will program the final handful of dates for the season and then they'll figure out what to do for next season. ESPN laid off like 300-400 people this week. Not a happy time for a lot of people at the company. A lot of good people lost their jobs , including Doug, who did an excellent job on FNF to get the kind of shows we had on a regular basis for very limited money. But the show will go on.
Dan, is there are a weekly drawing at the WBC headquarters to determine whose title will be stripped?
Pay the man, Shirley!
Dan, prime Mayweather vs prime Aaron Pryor?
Mayweather. All. Day. Long.
Any update on Rigondeaux's next move?
Nothing specific yet.
Dan can you talk a litle big more on HBO latino doing undercard fight starting with pedraza on june 8th will this be doine in all mayor cards
Like I tweeted yesterday, they will have some prelim fights on HBO Latino for SOME shows. Not much more to say. They'll have the Pedraza fight, for example, on HBO Latino for the June 8 card.
With sept14 being a Mexican holiday doesn't it make sense Floyd fight a Mexican?
This chat is really hard to follow with the auto-refresh off.......
I do not have anything to do with that but I have gotten a lot of people telling me it is off and have sent a note to the office folks.
Hopkins says he would fight overseas but wouldn't there be problems with getting visas due to his jail time?
Doubtful since it's been like 25 years. He went and fought in Canada twice with no issue.
There is going to be a really good UFC card tomorrow. Would you consider watching it if it was free?
If it was free I might check it out.
what up Dan , good call in Lamont/Lucus recap about that straight right being the punch that really started the problem for Peterson. Is Mathysse the biggest p4p puncher today or maybe Golovkin?
P4P Matthysse is easily one of the few punchers out there. There are some other good punchers too like GGG, Wladimir Klitschko, but Matthysse is just a sick puncher.
Who are you picking for tonights fight Delvin or Hernandez?
Delvin should win. I he is superior in every way in my mind.
140 pound division is great right now. Too bad Rios and Alvarado can't fight the top two guys. Also, why can't Broner take on the winner of Matthysse-Garcia if he gets by Paulie. Seems like the obvious fight and one I would love to see.
Rios is fighting Pacquiao at 147 in his next fight. Alvarado will be back later in the year after getting over a hand issue. And who is to say Broner wont fight that fight if he beats Paulie? There are so many good possible fights at 140 and 147 between at the Golden Boy fighters it's sick.
How about Miguel Cotto vs. Delvin Rodriguez?
I can think of about 10 fights I'd rather see.
3 scenes I liked from all access epilogue. Mayweathers daughter praying for Mrs Guerrero, Robert telling Miss Jackson god bless you and Mrs Guerrero saying Floyd was running and holding like a little B!+C#.
The epilogue episode was the best of the series and typically is. If you havent seen it it is well worth watching. Showtime has more replays of it and it is also on demand.
Do you think a Mayweather fight in the U.K. is inevitable?
Not at all. He has said he'd like to do it but I will believe it when I see it.
Dan, Do you think Lucas Matthysse is a future opponent for Mayweather? I think if he KO's Garcia he would merit a shot.
I do think he is pushing himself into the conversation and that the Garcia-Matthysse winner, assuming the fight happens, would have a good case to face Floyd. The biggest thing is for both guys is to become a bit more known to the mainstream to help their case.
What do u think of evengy gradovich the feather champ?
Very exciting fighter. He'll defend against his mandatory in Macau in July.
Dan, what is the record for heavyweight champion regin in terms of years?
Joe Louis, who held the title for 11 years.
Here's my feature on tomorrow's Kessler-Froch rematch: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9307123/carl-froch-expects-savage-battle-mikkel-kessler
stupid question: If a fighter misses weight is it allowed to get an enema to lose the extra pounds?
I'll take it you are serious and the answer would be that fighters do a lot of things to lose the last bit of weight. They usually get an hour or two to make the weight if they miss it on the first try. So I would say, yes, that happens. Nothing against the rules as far as I know.
Any updates on Floyd and if he will still fight in September? Thank you!
As far as we are all told Floyd will fight Sept. 14 and Richard Schaefer tells me basically every day that he is working on getting a Canelo fight made.
Don't you think the Matthysse hype is way overblown as matty is a one dimensional short fighter?
When you blast top opponents like that, no.
You gotta respect how Peterson made no excuses&was honest how he lost?
Yes, lotta respect for the class Peterson showed in defeat. There is nothing to be ashamed of when you face the best and lose fair and square. He'll be back to fight another day.
Who would you say is more chinny. Amir Khan or Juanma Lopez?
alright dan,barker vs geale and macklin vs golovkin how do you see both fights going and whos your winners ?
Both good matchups. I like 'em both and plan to be at both. As for the picks, we'll see when we get close to the fights.
Dan I read Morales will do two farewells fight in mexico and one of those coulb be against Humberto soto. I am litle sick for liking that fight
LOL. Maybe just a little sick.
Did you see the new Star Trek? What did you think of the homage to "kkkhhhhhhaaannnnnn"?
Havent seen it yet. Hard to get out to the movies with a 5-week old at home.
Hey Dan I heard there was a bit of a shake up at ESPN that involved some boxing people. Has your job been changed in any way and have you been given any extra opportunities on the TV side of things now?
Nothing whatsoever has changed about my job.
Is the Barclays Center taking over from MSG as the main site for big NYC fights?
It sure seems like it at this point but remember one thing -- Barclays has a deal with Golden Boy. They cant do any other fights there without GB being involved. MSG can go get whatever fights it might want. Also, MSG has been booked with Rangers and Knicks. They have more tenants than Barclays. Also, MSG will be closed most of the summer for the final phase of the renovation.
Who would you say is more chinny, Amir Khan or Jay Leno?
Speaking of Barclays. Why not have the 140 final there instead of DC? Garcia & Judah can draw a crowd there
Barclays is not available on Sept. 7, which is the TV date.
Good Afternoon Dan - Is HBO showing the Groves fight too or just Kessler-Froch?
Dan, can you tell me what Ken Hershman is doing with his supposed huge budget advantage over SHO? For the first half of the year SHOW has dominated HBO in quality fights and it hasn't been close.
I dont have their budgets in front of me but my belief based on the fights being put on and the quantity of fights being put on that Showtime's budget is equal or very likely bigger than HBO's at this moment.
Is Kessler-Froch II the only fight on HBO tomorrow?
Dan, I know we give him a good bit of crap on the chat, but what ever really happened to Joel Julio??
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child. He dropped out of a fight when his mom and sister were in an auto accident (my understanding is they are fine) and has not taken a fight since despite offers from Main Events. He's basically retired at this point I think.
I watched the Hagler v Hearns fight you posted yesterday for the umpteenth time.... was there ever a discussion for a rematch of that fight?
Yesterday was Hagler's 59th birthday, which is why I tweeted the link to the fight. Honestly, I was like 15 when that fight happened and I do not recall if there was talk of a rematch or not.
Dan, based on recent events, what percentage would you give that HBO gets ut of the boxing business altogether? I'm sure Epix and NBC Sports would easily fill the void.
HBO's boxing isnt going anywhere.
Why, other than $$ is the 140lb tournament ending with a fight vs Khan?
It's not. That was one possibility but it's not happening.
Hey Dan, please settle an argument for me. Has Miguel Cotto ever officially retired?
I the words of Larry David "I would say that Alexanders performance was purd(t)y... purd(t)y... purd(t)y good."
Pay the man, Shirley!
I think Shaefer is exactly right when he says nobody loses when the best fight the best. I am still interested in watching Peterson and Judah especially each other.
Exactly. More fighters should understand that, including Floyd.
Any update on how Lebvedev's eye is doing?
No, but I bet it hurts.
I think Steve Smoger is top 3 referee in the game. BUT i think the stoppage was a bit premature. Thoughts?
I thought the stoppage was perfect. Lamont was still verbally ok after the first knockdown but he was gone after the second one. Smoger came to ringside to explain his rationale after the fight. He was right on the money, as usual.
Didn't Anthony Ogogo the 2012 British Olympic Middleweight look promising the other night on Showtime?
I thought he looked pretty good. Very poised. Good comibations. Strong and fit and was not breathing heavy after his first 6-rounder (in just his second fight).
Guillermo Jones was reported to have refused a drug test after the Lebedev fight, but I have seen anything about it since then? Do you have any news on this?
That was incorrect. He took his doping test as he was supposed to.
How do feel that FNF alumnus Brian Kenny is hosting the Showtime cards? I think he's doing a great job and adding to showtime's push...
Brian is a first-class broadcaster with a love for boxing and does a fantastic job on Showtime.
What fight are you most looking forward to this summer? Im pumped for ggg-macklin. Thinking about making the trip up
Love that fight. Also like Maidana-Lopez and Malignaggi-Broner cards.
Will Larry Merchant be calling any more fights in 2013?
He will be calling Top Rank's July 27 card in Macau, which will be on HBO2.
"I'm the champ I don't need to call no names out, line em up and I take them down" -- this is why I've become a Danny Garcia fan.
Yup, and hopefully he will fight Matthysse on Sept. 7.
Has Showtime found enough buys to push Mayweather-Guerrero in excess of 1 million yet?
Doubtful. They will look for those buys like Arum will look for the plans to his outdoor stadium in Vegas for Pacquiao-Mayweather.
Any news on James Kirkland? Guy's been inactive for over a year
I believe he is in summer schook at the WWSOBB.
What's the better venue for a match in CT, Mohegan or Foxwoods/MGM? Foxwoods has had some classics, most recently the Ortiz-Berto brawl and one of the Ward-Gatti fights.
Both are top-notch venues. Mohegan is more like a regular arena like an MSG/Barclays/MGM in Vegas. The Foxwoods arena is a lot smaller and intimate. Holds a lot less people but also very nice.
Dan, is Matthyse - Garcia a done deal?
Is cloud still with king? Any idea when he could fight again?
As far as I know, yes, but there is nothing in the works for him.
Did Antonio Tarver enroll for summer classes at the Winky Wright School of Boxing Business?
No. He is still suspended in California.
Will Cotto be a HOFer?
I thought Smoger missed those hitting behind the head and didn't warn Lucas. Lamont clearly wasn't the same and he said he was dissey.
It's not Machine's fault that Lamont leaned down and into some of those shots.
Will you be back to epix for a future card or are you not doing epix cards anymore.
I stil work with Epix on fights. There were some conflicts for me on recent shows which is why I taped pieces for the broadcasts. I was covering Mayweather-Guerruero and my wife was also having a baby. That said, at the moment there are no Epix fights on the schedule at this point. Hopefully, there will be more soon.
How close is Groves to a title shot? If Froch wins and Groves gets one, imagine how big the unification fight would be in Britain.
Groves is right there for a title shot. I think he could get one before the end of the year. He will be mandatory in two organizations.
Hey Dan! Any updates on when we can expect to see the Gatti-Ward Legendary Nights on HBO. Any chance there will others?
From what HBO told me literally just this morning is that production has just begun on the Gatti-Ward docu with interviews being done. It will debut sometime this fall. As for future shows, I hope so but the network has not committed yet to a full second series.
How's the little Rafael doing, sleep-wise?
Let's just say last night was a tough one. It's hard work, dedication.
Trainer In Cottos sept Corner?? ROACH ?
It's possible. I am told they are talking.
Dan, are there any fights in the works for July? HBO doesn't have anything scheduled on their main network, and Showtime has two cards, but I dont have much interest in the Hopkins fight.
HBO has told me they will not have any fights in July on the main network, although they will have the Top Rank-produced card from Macau on HBO2. They have three shows in June though.
I wasn't joking, Dantana, Boxrec is saying Cotto/Bundrage on Showtime @ Barclay's on Sept. 28th...
Boxrec is wrong, as usual, on it's schedule. K9 might get the call but but he is merely one of proably 10 possible candidates. NOTHING is even remotely done.
Steve smoger seems to be a real fan of fighting and seems to generally care about the fighters. He always seems to check on both fighters after the fight.
He most definitely is.
Danimal, Johnny "Mi Vida Loca" Tapia's one year anniversary of his passing is this coming Monday. What is your favorite memory of him? Mine was when he told Jim Gray in the ring "C'mon Jim apologize to Pete Rose!!"
I have a lot of good Johnny memories. One of my favorites though had nothing to do with a fight. I was in Vegas covering a fight and one night I went to a BBQ one of the local guys threw and all the boxing people were there. It was a lot of fun and I was standing there talking with Max Kellerman and Johnny arrived and came over and tried to hug us both at the same time. It was pretty funny but I will always remember this little guy trying to hug both us at the same time.
Why do you think there was not a good turnout for the Peterson-Mathhysse card? Went last week enjoyed the fights but was that big fight feeling wasn't there.
I just dont think Matthysse has any profile at all among the ticket buyers in that area and Lamont did not bring a lot of DC people for whatever reason and the undercard with Alexander-Purdy generated probably zero in ticket sales. GB wanted to do the fight in Washington but Matthysse would not go there after he felt he was robbed in split decisions in fights he took in Alexander and Judah hometowns.
Daddy, I need my diaper changed!
Ask your mother.
What derailed Prince Naseems career? Loved watching his fights!
I'd say about a thousand left hands from Barrera.
Do you think Povetkin needs to get Atlas back in his corner ASAP given that Kosta Tsyzu clearly will have no problem letting him getting seriously maimed against Wlad?
Tszyu was a huge disappointment in Lebedev's corner. He should be ashamed of himself and I'd tell that to him to his face. Love Teddy or hate Teddy, but he would have never let Lebedev fight that kind of hideous injury.
Boxrec's schedule is always fun. I think a couple years ago I counted them adding then removing Pacquiao/Mayweather like five times.
I love boxrec as much as anyone just not the schedule.
Make sure you check out my piece on possible Cotto opponents for the fall: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/4044/who-are-the-possible-cotto-opponents
Based solely on training Mayweaather, is Uncle Roger a HOF trainer?
Where is Demetrius Hopkins?
I assume training for his upcoming fight with Charlo.
Pacquiao-Naseem at 126?
Spectacular fight in which Pacquiao probably puts the Prince to sleep.
Will Stanley Christadolou face any repercussions for allowing Lebedev to lose any eye?
I dont know but he should be poked in his eye with a golf club.
What stinks more, Baby Jesse's diaper or what the WBC did to Andre Ward?
Wretched WBC. #wbcisdisgusting
Dan, who you got in the Narvaez vs. Orucuta this weekend?
I have no opinion and couldn't care less.
What are your thoughts about Shawn Porter? I was impressed at his speed, footwork, and workrate. He doesn't have a big following but I think the man is talented.
He's a good prospect although was very disappointing in his draw with Julio Diaz. He was much faster and skillful than Phil LoGreco and won easily last Saturday in a one-sided fight. Dropped LoGreco twice. I just question how he will stack up when he faces a top contender given the stuggles he had with Diaz.
Any news yet on possible Martinez schedule to return from injuries?
Nothing other than he wont be back until at least next March.
I better get back to work. My boss is on to my Friday chats. He walks by a little more often than usual now.
Are you planning on going to Macau to see Pacquiao-Rios? If so, what's the longest plane trip you've currently been on?
Very good possibility I will go that fight. I've flown to Cabo San Lucas a few times for vacations and I have flown to England and also many times to Vegas and Los Angeles. But nothing like flying to China.
I am disappointed to announce that Jesse must be stripped of his diaper as punishment for his failure to pay sanctioning fees before his bowel movements.
Pay the man, Shirley!
Dan, mythical match up: Terry Norris vs. Winky Wright at 154?
That would be an interesting fight. I've never thought of that possible fight before. Terry was a great puncher and quick but Winky was very defensive minded, southpaw and had a great chin. I would pick Winky in that fight. It would be interesting.
any chance Broner heads back to hbo?
Not right now. Down the line? I would say so but not while the issues are going on between HBO and GB.
Hey Dan, Happy Friday to you. I'm pumped bigtime for the fight tomorrow. Just curious.....How did you score Froch-Kessler I? I scored it three different times and the best I could give Mikkel was a draw.....and that was by giving him the benefit of the doubt after every swing round, which there were quite a few.
I thought Kessler eked out the first fight and had no problem with him winning a close decision.
Will the Gatti-Ward film be produced as an official Legenday Nights show or a regular documentary?
It is being done under the Legendary Nights brand so I assume it will be like an episode of Legendary Nights, just an hour not a half hour.
Dan, if you fly to Macau, don't bring your gun with you to the airport!
Pay the man, Shirley!
Have you spoken at all with Hershman about HBO's break with Golden Boy? Was there a particular event that precipitated the split, or just an accumulation of grievances? Did it have anything to do with Espinoza being a former Golden Boy employee?
Ken has elected to hide behind his PR people and not answer any questions from the media about the issue. So the only thing he has said on the record is his original statement that was undoubtedly crafted by his capable PR team.
So Baby Jesse doesn't do a number 2, he does a WBC?
Where does Vic Darchinyan go now, given the disgusting WBC ordered Terrazas-Santa Cruz?
Vic is with Top Rank now and they have fighters at 122 and 126 so I am not worried about him getting a solid fight.
How well do you know Steve Farhood? Seems like hed be a great guy to watch a fight with?
Steve is the man and has become a friend over the years. And he is a great guy to watch fights with! One time when I was in NY he invited me over to watch some fights one weekend morning and another time I went to his place with a few others and watched a Holyfield fight that was taking place on a Friday night when we were all in NY for a Klitschko fight the next night.
Just bought Hopkins-Murat tickets. Any information on how the undercard is shaping?
Right now Gary Russell vs. TBA (as usual) is on. I think you'll see guys like Marcus Browne or Jemel Hering or Zach Ochoa -- young guys that GB has been putting on it's NY undercards.
Dan - Is Darley Perez a live dog in the Gamboa fight?
I believe so. Perez was a good amateur (although not like Gamboa, who won a gold medal) who was in the Olympics. He's a natural 135 and a very good puncher.
Was in AC for the fight. Weak crowd but still amazing when Matheysse was dropping Peterson. Paulie's desciption of"bombs exploding" was right on. And how about the expression on Garcia's face.
Agreed. I watched the broadcast when I got home from the fight on Sunday and Paulie was right on.
Dan, let's just dispense with the pleasantries and get right to it today. NOW is the time in the chat when the Freaks DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
El Presidente, would you like a yellow margarita?
Have you heard anything about James Kirkland lately?
Mr. Dan Rafael, you are great journalist but shooting wise I beat you up no problem. Buy my t-shirt or I put you in the camel clutch and break your back!
Better crowd: Gatti fight in AC or any Hatton fight?
As great as Gatti crowds were in AC, the Hatton fights I was at in Vegas were epic. That said, the crowd for Hatton I was at in Boston was good but nothing great.
FOTY so far?
To me, it's Alvarado-Rios II.
Shane Mosley Vs Adrein Broner at 135 in their primes?
Shane Mosley, as a lightweight, was a destroyer of the highest order who made 8 defenses all by knockout and fought some good opponents (although, granted, no elite guys). Broner fought like a few fights at the weight and beat average guys. I'd have to pick Mosley.
I'm on this chat from the toilet stall at my office while pinching off a deuce. Freak status?
Been reading a lot on the Froch-Kessler build up, looks like Froch may want a rematch with Ward...so who you got in a rematch Ward or Froch? Remember Ward won with a broken left hand.
Ward beats Froch all day long in a rematch. Same with Kessler. Horrible style match for those guys.
Will the HBO trucks make the trip to England tomorrow?
Outstanding question. I do not know. How awesome would it be if on tomorrow's opening credits they showed an HBO boat instead???????????
Any chance we see Sergio Martinez- Floyd Mayweather fight?
In your dreams.
The guy I'd like to see Ward fight is Golovkin. Only guy around that weight with a shot at being competitive IMO.
I think down the road that could happen.
So we give the HBO truck all sorts of (deserved) flack... but are we REALLY going to give the Showtime welder a free pass?
Pay the man, Shirley!!!!
Here's hoping that while crossing the Atlantic, the HBO truck gets sucked into the Bermuda Triangle
On sky the other night Glenn McCrory said that he'd never heard shots land as hard as the ones matthysse landed on Peterson, could you hear those shots from where you were sat?
Yeah, Matthysse's shots do sound different at ringside than a regular punch. Seriously.
Is a rematch with Trout considered an option for Cotto?
I have not heard that mentioned. I tend to doubt it.
Duran vs Mosely at 135?
One of my dream fights.
Dan, I noticed Russel and Mares had a little back and forth. What are the chances we see them fight this year?
I doubt it happens this year but maybe down the road. Mares is signed to GB and Russell, although not on paper with GB, has worked with them his whole career.
Dan, what's your take on the Delvin Rodriguez vs Hernandez fight tonight? Does Delvin still have a shot at a championship belt?
I think if Delvin looks good and wins there's an outside shot he could get another title opportunity.
Any news on what date the V. Klitschko-Stiverne fight would be ?
The sides are talking. If they dont make a deal there is a purse bid in early June and the winner of the fight picks the date and site.
I'm curious to know what was the "official" reason Golden Boy gave if any for the fight being at 141. I was a little disappointed the Showtime crew didn't talk about that other than Al saying there were issues with the sanctioning bodies. Even he knows better.
I wrote an entire column on it the week of the fight. Read it for the detailed answer: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9280981/why-no-belts-lamont-peterson-lucas-matthysse-fight
Omg! Froch said he would kill Kessler! Did anyone call the cops yet?this HAS to be investigated! Fighters are not allowed to make threats leading up to a fight. They can say they will win, but that's it.
So ridiculous that his comments caused the outrage it did over in England. I mean come on. It's a fight. Guys say crazy things!
we know a trip to 175 is in Ward's future, any chance at him doing a few fights at cruiserweight? I could see him as a fast technician at that weight.
Maybe eventually he will take on that challenge but right now he is at 168 and soon to be at 175.
Come on, Russell's not fighting Abner Mares...his initials are AM, not TBA.
Do you think the Andrade - Baysangurov fight actually happens? Andrade's best competition so far is probably Grady Brewer, so they think the next step is to fight a title holder in Ukraine? Expecting an injury real soon....
The fight is happening. July 6 in Ukraine. Injuries are always possible but the fight is on.
Any word on Dereck Chisora's opponent on 7/20?
No. Warren claims to have offered the fight to Fury (who wont take it as he is close to an IBF mandatory and probably fighting Pulev), Fres Oquendo (who might take it but would rank as a giant who cares fight) and Manuel Charr (who is still under contract to fight Haye after his injury).
I heard Malik Scott for Chisora...ugh.
No, Scott's people said he would take the fight but he hasnt been offered the fight as far as I know.
Dan, one reason I prefer HBO to Showtime is that Lampley goes out of his way to avoid acknowledging the sanctioning bodies and their practices --- seems like the Showtime crew discuss them more and treat them like credible institutions.
Your observation is dead on.
Froch's comments caused a buzzed. Tyson said he wanted to eat a mans children!!
Your thoughts on prospect Felix Verdejo?? Been following him since the olympics.. very talented in my opinion. Hope he'll be the next great fighter from PR...
Tremendous potential, great charisma and seems to really enjoy fighting and the fans. Clearly already developing a fan following in PR.
Audley Harrison is making a comeback! Can it be considered a comeback if you never really go away or were really that big of a deal?
Any word who Provodnikov's next opponent is?
Froch's comments towards Kessler is just Ludacrist'- Mike Tyson
Hey Dan, being a boxing guru like yourself, do you get more excited about technical prowess or raw punching power?
I like both at the highest level but it's hard not get more excited about a great puncher.
At least Showtime isn't as bad as NBC SN, where they refer to inter-continental titles as "The Championship".
Yeah, that is just silly and nothing but weak hype. Yeah, I'm looking at you Kenny Rice.
Gary Russell reality show idea... members of the general public audition to fight him... opponent announced night of the fight
I'd say that Froch's comments to Kessler is less disturbing than Chisora's comment to the Nordic nightmare, robert helenius:"I'm going to make love to him..."
I would agree. That was just odd. We did that fight on Epix and were like, 'what the hell did he just say?' when we saw the footage ahead of time.
Dan help me understand some economics here, Alexander, Matthyse, Peterson all made over 700k but there was only 4k in attendance? Do the tv people take the live gate into effect at all when doing pay checks for fights?
Obviously not. The gate was about $250,000, according to Golden Boy.
Have a great Memorial Day freaks! I will hosting a BBQ Monday afternoon for anyone who would like to join me....for a small sanctioning fee of course.
Good for Andre Ward rejecting the Emeritus nonsense from the WBC! #Wbcisdisgusting
DTM, any takers on the promotion front for Thomas Adamek now he's not with Main Events?
Actually, he is now back with Main Events and should be back this summer.
With Cotto seemingly doing his own thing, what's next for Canelo if Mayweather goes in another direction? Would GB take the chance of putting him in with Lara (assuming he beats Angulo)?
It's all up in the air. A very fluid situation. Once Mayweather's next move is set everything else will fall into place.
Toney-Jirov was a savage fight at foxwoods!
Yes it was. I was ringside for that fight. One of the best I have covered.
Margarito coming back???????? My blog: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/4087/margarito-denies-comeback-rumors
What holiday is the one in which that you write your always hilarius BBQ article??????
I think I've done it for Memorial Day and July 4th but I didnt do one last year. Maybe this year I'll do it for July 4th.
Surprisingly classy statement from Margarito.
Danno saw the paulie- broner presser what did you think when broner called you out for laughing.....what happened there?
I was at the presser in Vegas and laughing about some remark and he obviously heard me and made a comment. It was all in good fun.
Will you help me settle a debate? My buddy says that sugar Ray Leonard ducked fighting Aaron Pryor because he was scared. agree or disagree?
Sugar Ray Leonard was not scared of anyone. Ever. He made a decision based on business to fight some other fight. He didnt need Pryor, who badly needed Leonard. Ray's resume speaks for itself. Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez, etc..
True of false - the word "Jabroni" is the greatest word ever created.
It's up there. One of best ever 0000 bubba.
We should make #wbcisdisgusting shirts and all freaks should wear them at live shows. Would be a great way to identify other freaks! #Wbcisdisgusting
Dan The Man, What is your favorite fight poster of all time?
Too many to name! I like so many in my collection. One I dig is a poster promoting the Roy Jones-Julio Gonzalez fight at the Staples Center. Erik Morales fought In Jin Chi of South Korean in the co-feature. There were posters made and used to advertise the fight in the LA Korean neighborhoods that are in Korean with Morales-Chi as the main fight on the poster with Jones-Gonzalez much smaller. Love that poster. Also love my site poster from Mohegan Sun from Gatti-Ward I, which is EXTREMELY rare.
Dan, Will Pacquiao vs Rios be PPV for China as well? And does it break the Oscar-Mayweather record? Or it doesnt apply to that number?
Arum says it will be PPV in China. The first one for China. It will cost like an equivalent of about $5 American but will break in the PPV model there. Could be very interesting to see how that performs.
Sellout tomorrow night at the O2 arena?
Yes, according to the promoters Kessler-Froch 2 is a clean sellout of aover 18,000 at the O2 Arena in London.
Obviously Angulo has a puncher's chance against anyone at 154 but, other than that, do you think he can catch up to and catch Lara? Afraid that fight is going to be a bit of a stinker.
Lara SHOULD school Angulo.
What's your take on Bellew/Chilemba?
I hope it doesn't suck as much as the first fight.
Dan, are you convinced Povetkin actually fights Wlad this time?
DTM, are you honored to have felt Sheikie's wrath on Twitter yesterday? Maybe next time you will lie and tell him you drink the cold beer all night long, jabroni.
I was honored. But still not sure why he went off when my original tweet to him in response to one of his was very nice. But he went all jabroni on me bubba.
HBO should learn a lesson from Showtime on how to count PPV buys.
If Pacquiao wins vs Rios, will his next fight be the Marquez-Bradley winner?
Certainly could be. Or maybe Alvarado.
Met Hector Roca once and he spoke to me about how frustrating it was to him that Gatti was such a great boxer in camp but would revert to slugging as soon as he heard the crowd roar. He felt that he coulve had a better career than he actually had.
Hector is right but Gatti is who he was. He was fighter at heart and that is what did, for better or worse.
i just looked up that jones-gonzalez poster. not sure if this is right one, but that's a pretty sick tagline. http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Roy-Jones-Jr-vs-Julio-Gonzalez-Posters_i7934451_.htm
That is the regular poster for the fight, which I also have. The one I was talking about is totally different and in Korean with the Morales-Chi fight featured on it.
More grotesque; Lebvedev's eye or Abraham's jaw?
Lebedev's eye. By a lot.
Smoger made a great call - some refs wouldn't have even given Peterson a shot when he was flailing around the ring after the first knockdown.
James DeGale looked good on Wealth TV last week. what do you think of DeGale's future. Also Wealth has put on some good cards. Full cards
I agree on both counts. I just wish Wealth was in more than like 9 homes. DeGale has talent. He needs to be more active but I see no reason why he cant get a title shot in the next few fights.
Matthysse is not overrated, he has made subtle adjustments after the Judah and Alexander losses. Good boxing IQ
Exactly. He learned from those two fights without question. One thing he said is that since those fights he now makes it a priority to start faster and to go for KOs.
With all the recent Jordan/Lebron talk, is there even a G.O.A.T. debate in boxing or is simply SRR?
Most people regard SRR as the No.1 p4p without question. As for my view on basketball, MJ is the GOAT and it's not close.
Catch up on all my blog posts. There have been a lot lately: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael
We calculate that Antawn Echols has almost 11 children
OMG funniest ever.
According to our calculations, there are 1 trillion people in the United States.
I know you have no control over it, but I miss the notebooks. That is all.
We believe that there are at least 5 Ricky Hattons
How did you score mathysee vs judah and mathysee vs alexander? thanks
I dont recall my exact score but I was at Judah-Matthysse and had Judah eking it out maybe by a point or two. I also had Devon winning the fight watching on TV. But both were very close.
We are pleased to announce that we have been hired by the WBC to further inflate the number of title-holders in each division.
Will we see you at Mohegan tonight?
Guys like George Groves fight every 3 months of late and Andre Dirrell can't even get a fight it seems under SMS Promotions... Have you ever seen a prime waste away like that of Dirrell?
Have no idea what is up with Dirrell. But it has been a big waste.
Dan why is ward doing the telecast of Froch vs kessler and not Roy jones are they doing that to sell a ward vs the winner rematch?
I am not sure if Roy has another committment but obviously having Ward there, given that he fought both and might face the winner, makes sense if you are HBO and in the Andre Ward business.
Please refer to Mitt Romney as "Mr. President".
The Showtime PPV Accountants gave fans a counting lesson.
There used to be talk from Hopkins about Cleverly then suddenly he switched to Froch about a UK opponent Did Cleverly's recent high output win make Hopkins think twice or is Frocj just a bigger money fight?
I think BHop would take either fight. He just wants a fight that will generate a lot of interest. He knows if he fights a popular UK fighter it will draw a big crowd.
Its a shame Geale-Barker is taking place at Turning Stone? TV packagers like Gary Shaw hurt the sport by not actually promoting
That is a dumb comment because a place like Turning Stone is actively seeking out good events and it is a first-class place with a nice arena. To me, there is a place in boxing for cards at big arenas or in cities as well as in a casino. A show like Geale-Barker doesnt make sense ANYWHERE in America outside of a casino location because neither fighter means one damn thing in America. So if a casino wants to spend the money to bring in an event like that for its customers that is great and I have NO issue with it. Stop drinking the Kool Aid that having cards like that at a casino is a bad thing. In fact, it's a good thing because without a casino wanting to host that card a quality fight like that would not happen.
Dan, you in for Audley Harrison vs Michael Grant? "The Battle Of The Two Biggest Underachievers"
Grant would knock Harrison out in about two rounds.
We will get in excess of 1 million buys. We are still calculating from all 60 states in the US.
LOL! You're killin me with these.
What's the biggest fight that can be made not involving Pacquiao or Mayweather?
Good question. I'd say maybe Canelo-Cotto would be up there. That's a fight that would be popular with fans and would also draw a big crowd and good PPV numbers.
Why Keith Thurman is not competing with better opponents he should be tested. I think he can compete with the Berto's and Ortiz's. Anything scheduled for him?
He is fighting on July 27 on Showtime on a tripleheader and facing a guy not well known in the US but a very dangerous puncher in Diego Chaves from Argentina. He has an interim 147 title. I like the fight a lot.
Is Pulev-Fury close to done?
There's supposed to be a purse bid.
Do you think Pascal stays on the shelf all the way through December? That's another long layoff.
Do you think Mayweather never got the credit he deserved for beating JMM? I think the weight issue made alot of people discount a great performance aganist a top pound for pound guy.
You'd be right I think.
Dan,Why is Rigondeaux ranked in the P4P? He's only beaten one quality fighter.
He's not in my top 10 p4p.
Dan, do you think Wlad eclipses Joe Louis's record for defenses?
He still has a long way to go and doesnt fight THAT often. So I'd say it's a long shot.
The official gate totals are in for Peterson-Matthysse: 10,500 tickets sold. 0 unsold. 0 comps.
Every time someone thought Ruben Guerrero said something ridiculous counts as a PPV buy right?
Upon further review, we calculate that Joan Guzman made weight for each of his fights.
Dan you wrote a blog about a possible froch vs hopkins fight if they both wins but will the network thing get in the way after all froch is fighting on HBO this week but a fight with hopkins will probably have to be on SHowtime
Froch is not tied to HBO and his promoter, Eddie Hearn, and Richard Schaefer have no problems with each other and could make a deal probably pretty easily.
Do we ever see Ggg vs Sergio martinez?
DiBella wont ever let that fight happen because he knows better.
End of the day, do you think Garcia takes the Mattyshee fight?
"During our fight, he dropped a bomb on me," Froch said. "I felt it split my nose -- and there was no way I was standing for that." love Froch
Agreed. He is a good talker and a good fighter too. That is a good combination.
According to our count, Davaryll Williams vs Chris Byrd set punch stat records
wow. in your reporters typical fervor to anoint a new superstar in matthyse, you missed what a terrible stoppage smoger made. peterson wasn't that hurt. plus, he has proven himself to be a slow starter that can come right back.
Dude Peterson wasnt hurt? Dude he was gone. Even Lamont didnt argue the stoppage nor did anyone on his team. Do you think he would have made it out of that round after being hammered like that? Please child.
I guess in ederman's mind, Zab Judah wasn't hurt against Kostya Tszyu...
IF Cotto is fighting Sept. 28th and Garcia/Matthyesse Sept. 7th, wouldn't that imply that Mayweather/Canelo is going to happen?
It might but the Sept 28 date for Cotto is NOT set in stone.
Note to Ederman, when the losing fighter doesnt complain about the stoppage, it wasnt early
Ederman, congrats, you are one of the first people ever to accuse Smoger of stopping a fight early.
Accoring to our analysis Gale Van Hoy is the most accurte boxing judge.
Actual numbers were multiplied by an exponent of the decibel volume of Mauro's announcing. Over 1 million!
Ederman thought that Joey Gamache suffered a flash knock down against Gatti
ederman you are now official hired as a Showtime PPV Accountant
Any chance of JMM vs Adrien Broner??...
Really? REALLY? Once again: TR + GB = No fight. Math to live by.
ederman things Ricky Hatton shook off that final punch from Manny.
What do you make of Adonis Stevenson's chances against Chad Dawson, and if he wins, the likelihood of a match-up with Ward given his lack of quality opponents at the moment.
Stevenson has the big puncher's chance, obviously. If he wins, a fight with Ward would not shock me.
Gary Russell is back in training. My blog: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/4098/mended-russell-cleared-to-train
Ederman is NOT allowed to dance.
Sorry for the delay, Mrs. DTM just brought B$ for a visit in my office. He was throwing some punches, I swear.
3 Hours and counting! What a way to spend my work day.
Gary Russell is back in training?? TBA's around the world are running scared!
Is Cotto officially with GBP or is he still more of a free agent?
Cotto is a free agent. But, like Floyd, he has his own company and works closely with Golden Boy.
We wish that, for once, your chat would last longer than one hour.
Bigger Puncher at 140, Tszyu or Matthyse?
Mattysse is a bigger puncher for sure. Doesnt make him a better fighter but definitely a bigger puncher.
This Showtime PPV Accountants could be the funniest freak ever!!
Who is fighting in Chicago for the FNF card at the White Sox Cell?
Probably going to be Fonfara vs. Gabriel Campillo in the main event on Aug 16 in the FNF season finale. That's a damn good fight.
EPIC DANNNN! Still chattting. I left work in Northern Virginia, drove back to the city. Ate lunch and you're still going. Does ESPN even test for PEDs????
HARD WORK, DEDICATION!
Think Juan Diaz can won a major belt in his comeback?
At lightweight, which is extremely weak right now and assuming Broner doesnt come back, yes.
All I gotta say is some of the Showtime PPV Accountants remarks that I am not posting are absolutely hilarious and some would probably get me fired if I posted them.
This chat is going on so long that we may have to dance again!
We expect Froch to win a clear victory, 12 rounds to 6.
I INTERRUPT THIS CHAT TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE IS A NEW CHAT CHAMPION, HE IS FROM VIRGINIA, HIS NAME IS DAN RAFAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I havent stopped laughing for the past half hour, Showtime PPV has just entered the chat HOF
when will mikey Garcia fight again?
He makes his first title defense against Juanma Lopez in Dallas on June 15.
Hey DTM, have you ever seen Schaefer react like that in any fight? I think BC's "drunken uncle at a wedding" remark was right on the mark!
Richard was a little excited and I dont blame him.
Will Tyson Fury get a shot at a Klitschko? If so, does he have a chance?
He can become a mandatory by defeating Pulev. But if he gets the shot, I think Wladimir crushes him.
I don't blame him for being excited. But tt was surprising and seemingly out of character to see Schaefer hogging the limelight like that. I liked how he was always about behind the scenes business and left it to guys like Oscar and BHop to play for the cameras during post-fight interviews. Cmon Schaef! You're good for business, not interviews.
Richard happens to be a pretty good interview.
Just saw the sked for June 1: Zahir Raheem v. Justin Juuko? Does boxing have a Seniors Tour now?
Tell me about it. How pathetic is that crap?
Dan, heading down to Mohegan tonight for FNF. What do you think of the main event?
Should be a good solid fight.
D$, Why wouldn't Cotto work with Top Rank who he was with for his whole career? would Top Rank not agree to that sort of business model?
I dont know the reason but he prefers working with GB at this point. He honord his contract with Top Rank and then made a change.
Can andy lee pick up a strap at 160 dan? Really pulling for him, all round nice guy
He got a quick KO1 the other night and is in a good position. Middleweight is hot and there are guys with belts who need opponents. I can see him getting a fight with any of them at this point.
DTM, whats the deal with Ishe-Molina? It has a date but no venue or TV? does Showtime not want the fight? any chance the fight doesn't get made? Can Ishe fight someone else or would the IBF strip him?
The date is set from what the promoters told me but they have not said the specifics of what TV or what venue, although it's supposed to be in Las Vegas.
Why isnt Peter Quillin versus GGG gaining more hype? That seems like it would be a tremendous fight.
Probably because GGG has a fight next month and because Quillin is with GB on Showtime and GGG is an HBO fighter.
Hypothetical matchup who do you like ? Roman Gonzalez or Kazuto Ioka. Any chance of them fighting ?
Awesome match for fans of the little guys. Love the fight. Tough to call but Gonzalez has been so good I think I'd go with him.
D$, this goes beyond hard work and dedication. You are scaring me at this point. Are you sure you weren't hanging out with Lance Armstrong last night??
Dan. Is Valuev retired?
DTM. Did Sergio Martinez' career effectively end in the 12th round of his fight with Junior last September?
We may look back eventually and say yes.
Do the watson twins stand behind you during these chats?
anything on terrence crawford?
Fights June 15 on HBO on the Mikey Garcia-Juanma Lopez undercard.
How do you interview the fighters?A)Sit with them privately.B)Over the phone.C)Go to their house.D)OtherIf it's D,please explain,or do you do all the above?Thanks.
I have done all of the above.
Dan, you are nearing 100,000 followers on Twitter. Will you dress up like me and take a picture when you reach that magic number?
Dan I know Richard Schaefer said a few months ago that he wants to make the Mathysse Vs Maidana, do you think there is a good chance we may see this before the end of the year or early next year?
He has said he wants to make that fight and I think eventually it should happen but right now they are not on track to fight each other. Matthysse is still cleaning things up at 140 and has Garcia hopefully next. Maidana fights Lopez next month. Have to see what happens after that. If it did happen almost for sure not until next year.
Thanks for chatting today Fight Freaks. Hope you enjoy the Kessler-Froch rematch tomorrow and your Memorial Day weekend. Make sure to check out all of our stories and stuff on the boxing page. Talk to you next week. Peace.