Let's do this!
The Tuesday Boxing Chat #TBC is back in your lives for the next 60 or so minutes. Grab a comfortable seat and let's get chatting. Special shout out to the folks in the Basement. Lots to talk about in the aftermath of GGG's sensational KO of Matthew Macklin. As usual, the floor is yours ...
I got it bad ... SOOOOO BAAADDDD!!!!!
I know, I know. You're hot for teacher.
Feeling like it's almost GGG time in the MW division.
I think it is. And boy did he arrive on Saturday for anyone that had doubted or was relatively unaware. The sound of that punch from ringside is something I won't soon forget.
Brian, you think Floyd-GGG could actually happen at 154 and would Money want it?
No and no. But you watch, there will be plenty of good fights for Golovkin as he continues to climb. Will he be avoided by some? Obviously. But you can counteract avoidance by staying busy and constantly delivering with highlight-reel performances. You do that enough times, and you become an attraction. Then you do that enough times, and the opponents start coming back.
BRIANNNNNN, NICE PICTURE CHANGE!! Lol. Looking a little like Canelo!!!
My man Antonio. Never heard that comparison before, haha. Normally I all I get is "Big Country" Reeves comparisons. So I will gladly take Canelo over that, haha.
Brian: Wouldn't GGG absolutely dismantle Sergio Martinez with an utter destruction and a 5 round KO?
It's an obvious reaction of anyone watching Saturday to talk up GGG's chances of a KO over Martinez after what he did to Macklin (and how easily he did it.) Sergio has always had a chin at 160 (which is over his natural weight) that has allowed for some flash knockdowns (and some that weren't flash). I do think a fully healthy Sergio could give Golovkin more of a fight, however, than people are realizing. That would be an EPIC fight worthy if you ask me. No doubt I would favor Golovkin, but if Martinez is healthy, even with his advanced age, he moves well enough and is awkward enough to make that a great fight. Sergio is a REAL champion. He would bring everything he has to this type of challenge.
How's it going Mr. Campbell?! Which fight coming up do you believe will be the most exciting from start to finish? Mayweather-Canelo, Marquez-Bradley or Pacquiao-Rios and why? Thanks!!
Good question Edwin. The answer is Pacquiao-Rios because of the styles involved, how crazy Rios is and the drama caused from the questions that are still lingering surrounding Manny and whether or not he can fully recover from the Marquez loss.
Hi BC-- I was just thinking about not feeling too bad for Johnathon Banks. As Wlad's trainer on Oct 5, what does the trainer's share of Wlad's $17.5 mil purse come to? Along the same lines, do you think Teddy Atlas wishes things would have turned out differently between him and Povetkin now?
Haha, in terms of financials and financials alone, then my answers are "yes" and "yes".
Is canelo alvarez a super welterweight or jr middleweight
Junior middleweight. I dislike strongly that a few of these divisions have two different titles like that depending on the sanctioning body offering the belt. Let's stick to the same script here.
Hi Brian; love the chats, thanks for your time. That body shot that GGG hit Macklin with was a thing of beauty; like BHop hit ODLH with years ago. Reminded me of Mike McCallum. I am guessing no way we see Martinez jump into the ring with GGG now....Does that mean Martinez retires? Also, considering Adonis Stevenson could fight at 168, and GGG says he'll fight anywhere from 154 to 168....how 'bout hooking them up? That's the only fight I might not favor GGG in.
Thanks Scott. Appreciate you taking the time to join in with us. That body shot by GGG was RIDICULOUS. Macklin fell about six feet from us at ringside and the look on his face as he was writing in pain was unreal. He was down for a LONG time. I was seriously wondering whether he had internal injuries (he ended up with a broken rib.) But even though Martinez's promoter Lou DiBella didn't seem to keen on the idea of a GGG fight on Saturday night minutes after, Sergio has come out sense then and professed his interest publicly in going after that fight. He said he would like a tuneup first, however, after he returned from injury. I don't see GGG being matched with anyone at 168 in the near future. He still has a lot of work to do at 160 and if he did move up, I would have to believe it would be for a superfight against Ward (who was ringside Saturday and was interested). But that would be further down the line.
Brian: Who is your wife's favorite fighter?
None. She can't even be in the room when boxing is on the screen. She's non-violent and I respect that.
Tuesday chats are fun after a great weekend of boxing. is GGG the frontrunner for fighter of the year? say he fights five times this year with 5 kos?
Staying as active as he has of late always gives you a fighting chance above others. Part of Nonito Donaire's platform for fighter of the year in 2012 was the fact that he had four legitimate fights. Golovkin would clearly need another big win to be in the discussion, but it never hurts that Saturday was his fifth fight in the last 13 months going back to 2012 and that his team plans to put him in the ring five total times this calendar year. You have to respect that. No one does that anymore. Certainly not a major titlist.
Hello Brian. Look forward always to these chats. Other than Ward, Chavez Jr and Martinez, do you think there is a chance we can see GGG vs Froch or Kessler?
I think we can see GGG against any of those guys should he clean out 160 and then move up. But for a guy who we always talking about being a candidate for not finding quality opponents, if he can go on a run of, say, three of the five following names over the next year -- and all fights are makeable considering the promotional interests -- that wouldn't be so bad: Martin Murray, Daniel Geale/Darren Barker winner, Sergio Martinez, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr and Andre Ward.
Brian: Your contributions to the sport of boxing are being appreciated by fight fans everywhere. Thanks for the chats and sharing your expertise with the masses.
Look at this guy Al. Alright my man. Thanks much.
If Mayweather dismantles Canelo thoroughly, you have to give him very serious consideration on Fighter of the Year honors regardless of what GGG does.
Can't argue with that.
If Pacquiao wins, Is he an option for Broner? That would be the closest to a Pac-Mayweather fight that'd never happen agree?
Impossible with the current promotional and network alignments.
Hey Brian, I was very happy to hear Sergio say he wants to fight GGG after a tune-up, especially considering DiBella's initial reaction. I know we need to wait to see it happen but I'm glad to see Sergio back up what he has always said about fighting the best even when he is on the other side of the conversation.
Completely agree, Chris. Sergio knows more than anyone what it's like to partially "give away" a good chunk of your prime because no top-end guys are willing to face you. And I was always interested to see what would happen once the tables were turned and the positions were reversed. Credit to him, a true champion in every aspect, for wanting to take on that kind of challenge.
No doubt. I'll tell you another thing that punch did on Saturday: Paralyzing a group of fans and journalists at ringside in a way I haven't seen in a long while. People were still kind of just staying put with their jaws hanging, even as the ring was being taken apart and the cameras long put away. It may end up going down as just another step for Golovkin, but it truly felt like a transaction had taken place in the arena that night between the fighter and those in attendance. He's for real and he made a new legion of believers.
Why do people insist on bringing up fights like Pacquiao-Broner, Rigo-Mares, GGG-Quillin, etc.... HBO and/or TR means no GB/Showtime. Period, over, no chance, never ever ever!!!
Well, never say never. But I know what you mean. But I never get mad at anyone, however, who fails to see that rather large and intrusive hurdle when talking about fights. Because even though it's mostly ignorance on their part, the reality is that the sport shouldn't be like that. I mean, it's a joke if you really think about it. It's our reality, yes. But it's a sad reality. So sometimes I kind of admire anyone who isn't in tune with that because they haven't been jaded yet by the hard truth of the industry.
Let's get Kelly Pavlik out of retirement for a big money fight with GGG!
Nah, I'm cool with Pavlik staying retired as long as he realizes the fire isn't there. I don't think he got enough credit for walking away like he did, even with the Andre Ward payday hanging in the air like that. On one hand we get on him for failing to maximize and maintain his potential -- and that's rightfully so -- but taking an unnecessary beating for money that quickly disappears wouldn't be great to watch either if his heart wasn't in it.
Kellerman have Rigondeaux number 3 in the ranking, what do you think
Considering I currently have him No. 4, I would say I'm down with that.
If Broner decided to fights Sugar Shane, I will never forgive him. ESPN should boycott that fight if it ever happens. Disgusting just to think about it
I dislike that strongly, as well.
Scott, Pavlik's liver can't take any more punishment
Oh, come on. You don't mean that. I mean you said it, but you can't mean it.
Brian, do you think Pavlik ever really liked boxing? Do you think he was just good at it and it chose him?
It's an interesting thing to ponder. I'm sure the passion had to be there in some form for a long stretch. It had to be fun for him when he was consistently surpassing expectations people put on him during his initial rise. And I was one of those folks who thought there was no chance this guy was for real but he just kept coming forward with that big right hand, taking heavy shots in return, and fought with a lot of heart. So I don't think I would have ever labeled him as a guy who just got by on ability.
The one thing Shane would have in his favor against Broner (and I'm against the fight) is he is a big welterweight who still has the power to concuss Broner (esp if his chin is as weak as some say).
Yeah but he's slow. And with a chin that's still good, it would be a detriment as he stood in the pocket and continued to get countered by big right hands from Broner. Unlike in the Malignaggi fight where Broner was constantly needing to stay on his toes more considering Malignaggi's elusiveness, he would be able to sit down on his punches and stand right in front of Shane and fire away.
I'm new to this chat, but have to believe GGG crushes Sergio if they get it on next year. Sergio has been hit much too cleanly in recent fights and GGG will put him to sleep!
Welcome to the chat, Craig. I think ultimately, yes, Golovkin would stop Martinez in a great fight. I just don't think, should Sergio heal full from his injuries, that it would be one of those early round blowouts like on Saturday. I think Sergio would make that a real fight.
Broner has to still prove to us that he can beat a top welterweight and beating paulie Malignaggi in a razor thin decision dosen't do it!
Well, there you have it. This guy Corey is bringing the heat.
Shane isn't pulling the trigger against Broner even being the bigger man IMO. Sad if they make that fight.
Agreed. And how about we all agree to just never talk about it again moving forward?
Brian, any truth to the rumor that GGG has opened a restaurant that only serves BBQed ribs?
Aaayyyyyoooo! The Duder's got jokes.
As well as Sergio moves, if he still in fact can, GGG is awfully patient and adept at cutting off the ring. Bad, bad matchup for Sergio at this point.
It's going to end in a knockout eventually. I do believe that. But it needs to happen. You have a chance here to match likely the top two middleweights in the world and they both fight on the same network and both seem willing. Let's do this.
Brian, where's the love lately? I think the only style that would give GGG problems is Ward. But, believe it or not, I would go with GGG. The way he cuts off the ring is brilliant!! your thoughts...
My man Peter. Welcome back. I've been saying for a year now that if there's one fighter alive who could maybe give Ward some troubles down the line that it would be Golovkin. I couldn't possibly favor GGG as of right now, however. We need to see more and we also need to get Ward back into a ring and fighting coming off his own injury. That's a fight I hope we see in a year, or maybe a bit longer. It could be huge.
Does Austin trout have a future in boxing or has his time pasted with the huge loss to Canelo?
The loss really wasn't huge as it was a close fight. But I agree he lost a lot of momentum as he had come out of nowhere so fast and was already playing with house money. A win over Canelo there would have skyrocketed him to a higher level of fame and opportunity, but it's not like the loss destroyed him. He'll be back and will have a chance to rebuild and get back into a big fight.
Brian what fight do you wanna see get made?
I really, really hope we see Broner-Matthysse. But I need to see Matthysse against Garcia first.
Razor thin? Disagree; Broner coasted the first three/four rounds and then DOMINATED Paulie....
Yeah, let's bring that fight back into perspective. Paulie wasn't really "in the fight" after the fourth round. He didn't get dominated to the point that he was on the verge of being stopped, but he wasn't in a position to win once Broner was walking him down. Broner "handled" him well.
I see Klitschko vs Povetkin has been made but will it be on American tv?
There has been some rumblings that HBO would be interested in televising that fight. I haven't heard anything concrete but it would make sense. As far as possible heavyweight fights out there that could be made, that's a big one.
In all your years covering boxing have you ever been starstruck by a fighter? if so who?
I've only been on the boxing beat for two years, but have worked at ESPN for eight so I've been around countless athletes and celebrities on the job. So you don't really ever get starstruck at all (although interviewing Hulk Hogan was undeniably a "special moment"). But the only fighter that sort of surprised me was Pacquaio due to how much of a presence he has when he walks in a room. He speaks very softly of course and is very polite, but there's a real star factor there. I felt the same thing meeting Canelo at ringside before the Cotto-Trout fight.
GGG's best fights going forward are Quillin and maybe Geale, though I want to see him against Chavez. I think he slaughters Canelo at 160.
Hard to see a Quillin fight ever coming off due to the network battle going on, of course. But, yes, that fight would be amazing to truly test Golovkin against a middleweight who is quick and can bang.
Is it me or does Canelo exhume this sense of confidence going into this fight with Floyd. I mean taking these little shots at Floyd here and there. Seems like its gonna be a little gritty getting closer to the fight.
I have been very impressed by how comfortable Canelo appears in the spotlight. It's as if he was made for this kind of moment. Now, we don't know if that will help him in the ring when it comes to the technical battle and the speed difference, but it doesn't hurt.
what's peoples deal about Sergio? i think GGG most likely stops him, but let's not forget that this man WON the MW Championship of the world. nobody handed it to him and he waited for that opportunity and capitalized. he is THE MW CHAMP & a true champion who i do believe would fight GGG
Yeah, you're right Clay. Let's give Sergio some credit. I just think it's easy for people to write off Martinez when they are so focused on how he looked against Murray. But, again, injuries played a huge role.
BC, after watching all of the other press tour stops, do you think it's worth making the 2+ hour trek to LA to watch the press conference for Floyd and Canelo?
Everything I have heard from a handful of different people that have been at one of the tour stops is that it's a crazy, must-see type of event. Everyone that has come back from one of those has said the same thing: This fight is going to be HUGE.
How hard is it for GGG to cut off the ring when he's facing guys who always stand in front of him? Doesn't seem to be any Whitakers or Mayweathers on his resume...
Well, there aren't really a lot of Whitakers or Mayweathers to be found, in general, in any division. But I get your point. You want to see how he reacts against a real boxer with quick feet, quicker reflexes and good counter punching.
A fully mobile Martinez almost never gets cut off. His upper body movement and ability to move quickly out of trouble to either direction would give GGG fits. If he's lost a step Martinez gets caught eventually, but I believe the Maravilla we saw annihilate Paul Williams and Sergei Dzindiruk would out-box Golovkin to a unanimous decision.
Brian - were you as disappointed as I was when GGG failed to say "good boy" after the fight?
Haha. Yes I was.
Now that Top rank has both Darchinyan and Donaire can we get a rematch?
I wouldn't object. It's a very makeable fight.
Martin Murray is also a HUGE middleweight who is likely moving up to 168. Sergio is an average Jr. middle fighting at 160. The Murray fight was a fluke in my opinion, and Sergio isn't as washed up as some believe.
Along with the injuries, it was clear that Martinez took Murray way too lightly and was possibly too focused on the event and what it meant to Argentina, than on the fighter. And obviously only Martinez is to blame for that. In fact, I scored the fight for Murray, 115-112. But I think if given the time to heal, we don't see a Martinez like that in his next fight.
Which of these fighters is the scariest puncher: Kovalev, Stevenson, Matthysse, or GGG?
We get a variation of this question each week and I have been leaning toward Kovalev of late. But after being ringside on Saturday, I may have to go back to GGG. And it's not even just the body shot that forced the stoppage. The first time Golovkin touched Macklin in the first round (I believe on a short, grazing left hook) there was this look in Matt's eyes that was startling. That moment changed the tenor for the rest of the fight.
With andre ward suffering his fight loss to goossen, will this ruin their relationship going forward?
It will be interesting to see. Ward answered a lot of questions about the topic at ringside after the Golovkin fight on Saturday. He wasn't openly angry about it, but sort of just tacked it up to what it is: business. One thing you have to guess is it can't help their relationship.
Paulie wasn't really "in the fight, BUT if Broner wants to run his mouth he needed to at least drop Paulie if not TKO him. It feels that the media is making Broner into the next Mayweather without him paying his dues. And his fights are already getting boring now, what happens when he has PPV money, will he put us, the fans to sleep for $59.95?
I agree that there was clearly room there -- even with how game Paulie was in defeat -- for Broner to have done more. He fought too impressed with himself and didn't press Malignaggi with his jab off the opening bell, which could have led to a stoppage had he changed the tempo and established himself early. Broner was happy to give away a few rounds while standing still and shaking his head every time he got hit. I was impressed by how he took the fight over and constantly walked Paulie down, but it was one punch here, one punch there. He didn't "go after" Paulie like you would have hoped considering his hype and talent level. I'm not saying fighting Malignaggi is easy and it's an automatic stoppage for anyone who presses. That's clearly not the case. But Broner was happy at times to just get by, even with his ridiculous accuracy, which was nearly 50 percent of his overall punches.
Triple G ,Ward,Mikey Garcia,Danny Garcia or Gamboa who's 0 is first to go
Danny Garcia if he fights Matthysse. And Gamboa could lose that thing at any time. He's one vulnerable fighter right now.
Whatya think of a Froch/Groves matchup?
I think it would be very entertaining and would end with a Froch stoppage.
Sergio even when healthy absorbs plenty of clean hits. GGG is not the type of fighter you should take clean hits from.
Agreed, which is why Sergio would have to be on his horse like he was against Chavez. He would need to really be moving constantly and be running on full speed the entire fight. The problem with that is he is getting older and eventually he would slow, and absorb and ultimately get stopped. But I think he is plenty game enough still to push the pedal and make it an interesting fight for some time.
As good as GGG's knockouts have been this year, am I the only one who thinks we're destined to get an even better KO in Pac-Rios? I love Brandon Rios, but I honestly don't see him walking straight at Pacquiao for more than 3 or 4 rounds before a straight left puts him down like it did Hatton? Maybe not quite that bad, but still a dramatic, concussive ending.
It will end in a knockout. There's debate at times as to who will end up staring at the lights, but I lean more towards Rios going down in a fun fight. Let's not forget Brandon would be moving up another weight class. We also know he's there to be hit. As long as Pacquiao is durable enough to stand there and trade at times, I think he gets Rios out of there. But there is enough doubt -- and clearly enough potential for two-way action -- to make this a heck of a must-see fight.
I understand the Broner criticism regarding his undeserved hype, but boring? That is one thing he is not.
I agree with that. While the comments against women went WAY TOO FAR, just about everything else he does is irritating enough to be entertaining. He knows how to work a crowd. Plus he's talented. He's a top three must-see fighter in my view.
Whats up Brian!!! Ward has only been fighting once a year lately, it seems like he's holding his own career back, not Goosen.
Well he's injured, too. We can't forget that.
Did you have a sense of Andre Ward being a little annoyed with all the questions on the fight game after the GGG fight?
No, he handled them well. In fact, he stayed around long after the fight was over giving plenty of on-air and print interviews to anyone at press row who wanted to talk to him.
GGG and Lucas Matthysse are the two best reasons to be a fight freak right now.
I can't argue with that. I really can't.
I never thought I would say this, but I admire Sergio Mora for at least being willing to walk into Golovkin's lion's den. He even moves well enough to make it interesting for a few rounds, but he keeps his gloves too high, and where Vera and Proksa reached with their punches on the ropes, Golovkin would go downstairs and end it much the same way he did against Macklin.
I think Mora gets pulverized by Golovkin, but, yes, give him credit for being so willing to take on a guy that you'd be surprised anyone would be willing to face. Also give credit to Mora for being willing to adapt his style. His performance against Proksa this past Friday on ESPN was a solid one and his interviews before the fight were as honest as you'll hear from a fighter.
Broner is getting hated on to much. Lets remember he did move up two weight classes to challenge one of the champions. Don't forget, a prime Miguel Cotto couldn't knock out Paulie either. It will take time for Broner to get adjusted to the weight, plus Paulie was keeping him on his toes the whole fight. Give him a break
No question. Broner is still the real deal. I think he could have done more, but the Malignaggi fight did nothing to cause me to question his stock.
Do you think Garcia will actually met Matthysse or figure away to duck out of the fight
My personal opinion is that in the end, Danny Garcia steps up and takes this fight. I really can't knock everything I've seen from Garcia and how he behaves in and out of the ring as a fighter. And considering any attempt at dodging Matthysse right now would basically create a stigma that hangs with him, it's a smart move to just stand up and take on the challenge. And I think he will.
Soup! I'm late! Here we go... on this day two years ago, Wladimir Klitschko squared off against David Haye in one of the more hyped heavyweight matchups in recent history.
Wow, you had me worried there, KT. Many thanks to our resident #TBC historian for jumping in at the last minute. Boy was that one of the most disappointing fights of this century. Seriously. I was so ridiculously hyped to see that fight and to have a "real" heavyweight battle on our hands. There were plenty of intriguing storylines. A good style matchup. But in the end, Haye just didn't bring it. Bottom line. He wasn't willing to do what it took to win that fight.
In the boxing media is it very competitive among the writers? and is there bad blood between some writers?
I'm sure there are some who don't get along just like in every professional field. But I have to say, along with just the simple joy of getting a chance to cover such an amazing and inspiring sport, it's the camaraderie and banter with the other writers that is the most rewarding. Boxing has some of the most amazing and real people involved with it from fighters and publicists to the media and the fans.
The guys at work and I think Floyd would never get in the ring with GGG at 154. GGG is like Marciano, wherever he hits you, it hurts. Your thoughts?
Absolutely no chance that fight happens for a lot of reasons. Really not much more to say.
Why say that Floyd wouldn't ever fight Golovkin? He has fought plenty of big punchers in the past and actually does better against them than most of his opponents.
Golovkin isn't just a big puncher, though.
The Broner hype reminds me of the hype surrounding Zab Judah right before Kostya Tszyu exposed him. Shouldn't everyone wait untill Broner acyually fights someone with a complete skill set before claiming how great his is
I can respect that opinion.
BC, what do you think of Peter Quillin and his career path at middleweight? Considering he is with GBP and Showtime, there is not a whole lot of room to grow, you know?
Indeed. It seems like a lot of the major names in th division right now are associated with HBO. But let's see how creative GB can get with how they match him. There are plenty of good fighters around the world that aren't tied down with the two major American networks and promoters at this moment. I'm interested to see where they go with him.
When Max talks about his odd P4P list, he makes a strong point that it's right. The biggest issue with P4P lists seems to be everyone interpreting what puts you there differently.
Exactly. And we could write books about that gray area. Is it merely a ranking of accomplishment on par with a college football Top 25? Or is it a true ranking of who would win right now if two fighters were at the same weight and fought each other? The idea is that it would be a marriage of both, but the gray area is too large at times and causes plenty of debate. It's a case-by-case situation.
I tell you a fight I would like to see Broner vs Judah.That would be Zab's last chance
I'd be all over that one, too.
if floyd stays unbeaten do you think he fights past his showtime contract? i feel he will extend the showtime contract if he loses.
That's what I want to see. Let's say he goes the distance with Showtime and ends up 49-0, looking for a MAJOR name to have a final fight against. Obviously he's savvy enough to know that fight could be marketed like none other. Mayweather, at his advanced age, looking to round out his career with an even mark of 50-0, besting this mythical record that isn't really a record set by Rocky Marciano. One thing we do know is the highest bidder would win out and the fight would be huge. Imagine if it was against Pacquiao.
Shane Mosley-moved from 135 to 147 to fight a consensus top-3 P4P in ODLH. Adrien Broner-moved from 135-147 to fight the weakest of the four alphabet soup titleholders in that division. Enough said.
Mosley did take two warmup fights, however, at 147. Broner made a straight leap up two classes and took on a veteran fighter. Was it the path of least resistance to a title? Probably. But I have respect for what he did.
Good arguement to be made that Quillin is the single fighter most damaged by the promotional issues at this moment in time.
There is some potential there as both Top Rank and Golden Boy seem to be strong in specific weight classes in relation to each other.
What would u think of Danny Garcia if h does beat Matthysse? I mean can Lucas fight going backwards? Zab and Devon showed its difficult for him to do so. What you think?
I think Matthysse is a bit of a different fighter from those two performances. He was scarred by the judges' decisions and has turned himself into a fighter who goes after it. Garcia is a good fighter and has an above average left hook, but he can be found. After seeing him have trouble with Judah late in that fight, I just can't picture him surviving the type of assault that Matthysse has recently been providing.
I dont understand why people keep saying golovkin is a big puncher. He's just simply gifted overrall and his knockouts come from his ability to read opponents just like the klitschkos
Well, it's clear first of all that he has obscenely heavy hands. All of his opponents have said just about the same thing. But I agree with you that he's not out there going for the knockout. It's a result of the mechanics of the entire package. His footwork is brilliant. He's always in the right spot to land a punch and he's very accurate. The guy is a monster.
Remember about a month ago when we were all concerned Floyd was going to duck Canelo the way he ducked Manny? Seriously, he's going to take a fight with a massive punching refined middleweight? Lets just all be thrilled he's fighting his best realistic option!
I know, this guy Chris is right again. Let's please stop talking Floyd-Golovkin. Conversation over.
GGG uses his amateur skills for professional purposes.
I blame the fighters for this mess to some extent if they really want the fights they should push the issue and make it happen
What's up BC. I have a question: Who do you favor in a mythical matchup round-robin out of Prime Rjjr, Ward and Calzaghe?
Prime Jones. But man is it fun to think about each of the matchups and try to figure out how they would play out.
What do you think JCC jr is doing with his 800 extra grand?
Restocking his cereal cupboard.
Brian--have the forces killing the fight game, promotional fights, promtoers shoving bad fights down fan's throats (here's lookin at you HAymon) network fights, sanctioning org shennanigans, blatant ducking, etc. gotten worse over the last several years? Or has it always been this bad?
There has always been some form of shennanigans in boxing and there will always be fighters or promoters who are hard to work with or simply want to avoid a fight or fighter. But having the two major promoters outwardly and adamantly refuse to work with each other just takes it to a whole different level. It's not about the money anymore and if you just raise enough, any two fighters will face off. It's about the charred relationships between Arum and both Oscar and Floyd and the stubborn pride between them about not working together.
what would it take to get Chris John to comeback to the states and fight Mares or Mikey Garcia?
I don't think he's coming back.
Assuming mayweather beats canelo and khan beats alexander, will mayweather khan be the next likely matchup?
If Floyd got through Canelo without any trouble than I think that would be a strong candidate providing Khan won the fight without getting knocked down a whole bunch of times.
In response to Nick, sometimes the all-time greats dragged out fights. Sugar Ray Robinson was known for being hard to negotiate with (per Gene Fullmer), and Sugar Ray Leonard sometimes let it drag on, but in the end, they all got in the ring. Doesn't seem to happen near that way now.
Because in the end the money ruled out and time healed whatever was originally holding a fight up. Let's hope that happens because you don't want to see this thing take on an even bigger life of its own.
Do you have a vote for the Boxing hall of fame
Mr. BC, if there was a decision or one moment you would change in boxing history, what will it be? For me it would be if Pernell Whitaker would have received those decisions from Chavez and DLH which he was robbed? Thanks for the chat BC!!!!!!
I always, from a personal and selfish standpoint, point to the rib injury that first postponed Mike Tyson and unbeaten champion Evander Holyfield proposed first fight in the fall of 1991. That fight would have been EPIC. I know we ended up getting it anyway and due to Holyfield's dramatic upset -- which ended up being, anyway, one of my three favorite fights of all-time -- but there was so much demand for that when it was originally proposed. I still wish we could go back and do it then and see how the fallout would have affected things.
Brian, the $50 million dollar questions, do you think the Mayweather-Alvarez fight lives up to the hype?
Overall, from an entertainment value in terms of it being a show and spectacle, yes I think it does. I think Canelo is going to end up putting on a better performance than a lot of us think, which will cause a certain level of entertainment and drama that some think will be lost. I think Floyd still takes home the victory, of course.
Canelo is not a "massive" puncher....his resume is devoid of a name KO.....we don't know what he's got yet.
He's not a one-punch crusher, but he's got pop. He wears guys down. And he's got a legit size advantage over Floyd here. And how dare you downgrade his one-punch KO of Carlos Baldomir, haha.
I would change Richard Steele stopping Taylor-Chavez I with TWO SECONDS LEFT!!!!
Brian, do you think Naz belongs in the HOF?
Moment in boxing history I'd have changed: make Salvador Sanchez drive the speed limit. He could have done so much in this sport.
Brian, you make Tuesdays better, thanks. If Canelo were to win and be then had more clout and told GBP to make a fight with let's say Chavez Jr, would it ever happen?
I always say the thawing of the Cold War would have to come down to two GIGANTIC names from either side of the fence wanting to face each other so badly -- along with unrivaled public demand -- that made the fight just a no-brainer for all parties. The two fighters would have to put up such a public fight about it that the promoters would have no other choice but to do it. Could it happen? Who knows. But fighters need to use their power more in these situations.
Do you agree with Max Kellerman's theory that if Floyd loses, his PPV numbers tank because many fans only buy to see if he does get beaten?
I don't think "tank" is the right word, but I get his theory and can't really argue with it. It's Floyd who has made his "0" the most important part of his ability to sell. So it makes sense.
For what it's worth, Canelo stopped Carlos Baldomir at 147 with one shot, and Baldomir had a granite chin.
I think for me it's Roy going back down to fight at LHW against Tarver. At least that soon.
That's a great call, Touchdown Tommy.
At what point does HBO "force" Sergio or Chavez Jr to fight Golovkin? HBO can just not put them back on their network and if that happens, both fighters and their promoters are in trouble.
I don't think forcing will be necessary. Sergio already said he wants the fight once he is healthy. And Chavez, like most fighters, would likely love the chance to make a huge payday. He's not the kind of fighter that would be afraid of Golovkin. So as long as GGG continues to build his brand and stay active, I don't see why that fight wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
Is that the Tommy I think it is from Detroit?
The Motor City Cobra?
On Michael from Brooklyn's point: I wish Roy Jones Jr. would have stayed at heavyweight after winning a title, fought Tyson, beat him, then retired as a top ten P4P guy.
That's funny (self-plug coming ... wait for it ... wait for it) because I wrote a whole column on that same topic last year. http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8793096/what-roy-jones-jr-had-remained-heavyweight-2003
For me it would be Mike Tyson being in that room with that one lady. Jail ruined his career.
Unfortunately the groundwork was already set for his career going downhill even before the jail sentence, but obviously I agree that you wonder how different things would have been had he never went away.
Thanks for taking questions. Could you tell the higher ups at ESPN no taking a break from FNF it needs to be year round
I will relay your request.
I would also change Floyd's first outcome against Jose Luis Castillo. Had he ever lost, I think he actually dares to be great (and succeeds, as I think Broner would). But we'll never know because they're both so protective of the zero.
I totally agree and have long loved to debate that topic throughout the years. "Daring to be great" ... what a novel concept.
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