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Seager! Smoak! Franklin!Ackley? Miller? Zunino? Montero?
We can dream!
What do you think about Jon Lester? Seems like his early career no-no might have brought on unreasonable expectations.
Well, he was very good for a few years. Watched last night's game and he really struggled again. Just doesn't have great fastball command right now.
Pirates FO and Clint Hurdle want me to believe in this team yet they are playing frickin BRANDON INGE at 2B in back to back days? Brandon Inge isn't good enough to play our Triple A team!!! After 20 yrs and 2 straight 2nd half collapses haven't we suffered enough!! CUT HIM!!
I do agree with that. The Brandon Inge thing is a little ridiculous. He hasn't been a major league player for four years, yet they've given him over 100 PAs.
A few weeks ago I asked who you'd have starting the all star game and you said Harvey v. Kuroda would be fun (Yankees v. Mets). Somehow Kuroda didn't even make the team...
Well, had to make sure all those relief pitchers go on there. Because that's who we want to see in an All-Star Game.
What is the chance Derek Jeter comes back and produces as good as he did last year? Also, will the Yankees make any moves at the deadline?
I'd say less than 20 percent. First, he was very good last so would probably regress even if healthy. But factoring in the injury and age, I wouldn't hold high expectations. But never bet against Jeter either.
What happens to Matt Adams if/when Jon Jay is moved and Oscar Taveras takes over center? Will be he relegated to a bench role next year too?
Probably. Good teams need good bench players as well.
Frenchy will be in left field for the Giants by the weekend. That's all you need to know about how things are going for the defending champs.
Do you feel that the Phillies are the team that the most fans in baseball are cheering for to lose so they will start selling? Their current mini hot streak can't be encouraging for fans of contending teams.
Sure, I can see that. A lot of the bottom feeders don't have much to offers, so Utley and maybe Cliff Lee would be enticing. Michael Young? Ehh, not so much.
Is David Price back to Cy Young form or has he just been the beneficiary of facing the below-average offenses of the Astros and White Sox?
Certainly have to factor that in, but he did say after beating the Astros that he's never had command of his pitches like that before. He's also throwing his changeup more and early in the count. I think Cy Young Price is back.
Leyland filled the AL Allstar team to win versatility (Zobrist) and lefty relievers to win the game. Maybe the WS home field advantage shouldn't be on the line again so that we don't have to pick between 5 relievers?
I get that. OK, so you want to win. Then play Cabrera and Chris Davis and Joe Mauer the entire game. Pitch Scherzer and Felix two innings apiece. If Leyland does THAT then I'll accept his other roster decisions.
Regarding Matt Adams, let's think of the "super sub" players the Cardinals have had going into the last few years: 2011:Allen Craig, 2012: Matt Carpenter. I think Adams should play 1st a few times a week next season and move Craig to the corner OF spots to spell Holliday and Beltran (who I DO think will be back in STL next year).
Right, just because there's no room for a guy as a full-time starter doesn't mean a team should trade him. Adams has more value has a part-time player/injury replacement then what you'd probably get on the trade market for him.
Just across the ticker....in an effort to bolster the Giants offense, Brian Sabean has traded Kyle Crick and Javier Lopez to the Red Sox for Shaq Thompson. Thompson, whose OPS is only slightly below everyone else who is available to play OF for the Giants, is going to move right into the lineup in center field.
I'll be devastated if Steve Delabar doesn't win the final vote.
Does Gardenhire and his staff need to be let go? Is it time for a new regime in Twins Territory?
What, you don't like Jamey Carroll and his .534 OPS in the second hole?
With Kemp on the dl the dodgers should make a deal with the Phillies, create fearsome ethier/Delmon platoon
Delmon in center ... my lord.
Also, it's kind of sad that the idea of having a valuable bench bat is such a foreign concept. Unfortunately, rosters just can't survive with 12 or 13 pitchers on the roster....
I think that's one reason we're seeing all these long extra-inning games these days. Nobody has bats on the bench to match up with relief pitchers. Teams would be better off dumping the extra reliever and carrying another hitter, IMO.
Even as a Jays fan, the name Steve Delebar doesn't scream All-Star. why can somebody like Longeria or one of the Royals be on the list?
Can't figure out why Leyland didn't find room for Longoria. I get the Zobrist pick. Then you can't take Kipnis as well (although he's having a great year). But who's more of an All-STAR ... Longoria or Kipnis?
I enjoyed your listing of the worst games of all time. You missed a few, though, most notably the 600 or so games that Aaron Rowand played for the Giants.
Regarding Kemp, now you know what a human made out of toothpicks and chewing gum looks like.
Not sure that's fair. He'd been one of the most durable players in the game until last year. Looks like he just came back too soon.
To follow up on David Price, the Astros actually have the 9th best OPS in baseball vs left handed pitching. Not so much on the White Sox.
The Phillies are playing the same .489 baseball as the Dodgers. The Phillies were 1st in attendance last year and Scott Boras has predicted a bigger TV deal for the Phils than the Dodgers. Where's the money? Why are the BBTN crew hammering the Phillies to sell when their payroll is $65 million south of the Dodgers and $70mil south of the Yankees? JOHN Sell MIDDLETON needs to show some commitment with his checkbook.
So, if we are to believe the saber-metrics provided by NESN, and I do, then there is not a lot of difference between Francoeur's first month and Puig's. Both are free swingers with little to no plate discipline, and this is something the PuigPimps out there can no longer ignore. In 3 years, Puig will be a "nice" pick-up for the Royals, too.Oh, and there's NO WAY he "deserves" a place in the All-Star Game! VoteFreddie!!!
Is this Matt from Twitter? Yes, their first months are similar, can't deny that.
In light of recent performance of our "prized" off season signing, we're starting a new chant here in Anaheim: "LET JOSH CHEW! LET JOSH CHEW!"
O/U for Kershaw's final ERA: 2.15 (that would be the best since Clemens' sub 2.00). Which side you got?
Why not ... let's go under.
The reason Longoria didn't make the team is the players voted in Salvador Perez and Leyland had to take someone from the Astro and took a 3rd catcher, Castro. Do they need 3 catchers? Kipnis deserves to be on the team more than either on of those two.
Right, I didn't mean to suggest Kipnis isn't a deserving All-Star, but I think he fairly slots in behind Cano and Pedroia, and if you're looking for somebody to pinch-hit late in a game for one of the shortstops, catchers or mediocre outfielders, don't you want Longoria instead of Kipnis?
David, what is your vendetta against Jeter? All the guy has done throughout his career is make haters like you look foolish and exceed expectations. Watch him hit .315.
What did I say that suggests I have a vendetta against him? Last year I wrote he may be the second-greatest shortstop of all time (behind Honus Wagner, ahead of Ripken), which not many analysts agree with.
Francoeur was talking to the Reds before joining SFO. I can't believe they let him get away - he is a Dusty Baker kind of player. Good lord, Frenchie and Cozart in the same lineup would be Dusty's fantasy....
Could the Reds end up on the short stick of the playoffs if the Nationals gets hot?
The Rangers seem to be set up for a good 2nd half with Soria back and Ogando, Lewis, and Harrison possibly on the way. Am I being overly optimistic?
Bullpen looks great, still worried about rotation until we KNOW Lewis and Harrison can contribute. And it's not a good offense. I think they make the playoffs due to a mediocre division, but I'm picking the A's to take the West.
Re: Kipnis v. Longoria. Depends if you need a left handed or right handed bat off the bench. Not sure what the breakdown is on the roster off hand.
OK, that may be fair (without checking splits).
You want Longoria as a pinch hitter but you want Kip if you need a punch runner which is the capacity Leyland said he'd probably use him in.
Ahh, good point. The problem is they had to take six outfielders. Too bad they couldn't have dumped Hunter and considering Zobrist and outfielder and put Longoria on the team.
Better career Puig or Oscar Tavares?
Good one ... chatters?
Two teams with similar records: M's & Cubs. Tell me which team has a brighter future?
OK, everyone knows I'm a Mariners fan, but I don't quite get all the hype over this Cubs rebuilding process. They do have some good hitting prospects, but they're all in Class A ball. We can't say with any certaintly that Baez or Almora are going to be stars. Castro has regressed so much that he's borderline unplayable. Rizzo is a nice piece, but what other long-term offense do they have on the big league roster? Meanwhile, the M's may FINALLY be building some offense with Seager, Miller, Franklin and Zunino and they have King Felix. It's close, but I'd probably give Seattle the edge right now.
Granted, I don't watch as much baseball as you, but I see a good amount. I can't remember a stretch (late 90's included) where a player has hit as many balls hard as Hanley has this past month. It seems like every game he hits at least 2 frozen ropes somewhere. It's pretty breathtaking.
No doubt. He's outhit Puig and nobody outside of L.A. is really paying attention.
David, I've been saying that for a couple of weeks now. It would serve the Reds right for investing so much money and so many years in RELIEF PITCHERS.
Everyone lauded the selection of Aaron Crow as a non closer reliever two years ago... is this an over-reaction by Leyland or has the novelty of giving unheralded guys a day in the sun worn off?
I think he really just wanted those matchups late in the game (and to be fair to Cecil, his numbers are terrific). I can see wanting to use him late in a game instead of Bartolo Colon (who will probably be replaced by Grant Balfour) or even Verlander.
Re: Taveras/Puig, hard to project, but I trust the STL organizational approach to provide better support/opportunity than LA.
As a Giants fan I think it's time to blow it up...move Pence, Scutaro, Panda, release Zito....they certainly don't seem to have it this year and there is definitely enough built up goodwill from 2 WS to take a couple of years to try and rebuild. What do you think?
Interesting. Hadn't thought of that. Maybe worth a blog post. But I'm with you; they're just not good right now. So much for "knowing" how to win.
thomas boswell floated an interesting trade idea this morning. Detwiler, Espinosa, Moore and ?12 No. 1 pick Lucas Giolito for Price. he went so far as to say the nats would be crazy to offer this much. as a nats fan, I would do this trade in a heartbeat. would this really be enough for price? who would hang up first? why?
No offense to Thomas Boswell, but that's a ridiculous offer. Maybe last year, when Detwiler, Espinosa and Moore actually played well, but not this year.
Verlander won't pitch in the All Star game since he's throwing on Sunday. I think Leyland knew that when picking him for the team knowing he'd get to find a replacement.
Ahh, so we can add another reliever!
In a lot of ways, Puig reminds me of Josh Hamilton. Ability to put the good part of the bat on a multitude of pitches in various locations, but also a little swing-happy. Since his hot streak last season, Hamilton has never really made the proper adjustments to his plate discipline. How well Puig adjusts will go a long way toward determining the type of career he has.
Exactly. And interesting how pitchers adjust to him. He stands so far off the plate that pitchers have been trying to get him outside, but he can drive that ball to the opposite field. I think they're going to start throwing more fastballs in -- he hasn't really pulled many pitches with authority yet.
Sandy Alderson has all but promised a big acquisition for next season. Who will it be? Gotta be an outfielder right?
I would hope so.
yea, I like boswell too, but it did seem crazy. do the nats have any pieces not named harper that could fetch us price? would you make a move for a SP?
Their farm system isn't very highly rated so not sure they could get, say, Matt Garza. And Giolito has pitched so little that he doesn't have a lot of value now anyway. They could use a starter but it's really been the offense that has been the problem, but the lineup is pretty set. I think they live or die with what they have.
I know you were pretty down on the overall talent of the Rockies organization coming into this season. Is it just me or do the Rockies have a nice little core in place for the next few seasons? (assuming we fix 1st base)
I was; thought they'd be the third-worst team in baseball, ahead of only the Astros and Marlins. So they're better than that, I'll admit. Arenado looks like a player, a couple of the pitchers have done well. Obviously, Cuddyer is playing over his head, but Tulo/CarGo/Arenado/Fowler/Rosario is nice group to build around.
That Zach Wheeler-Carlos Beltran trade is looking just SUPER for the Giants right now. Thinking Crick is our top prospect speaks volumes to how depleted the farm is right now. What do thing the biggest "I wish we could have a do-over" trade in the past three years is?
Hmm ... that's the first one that pops into my head, although let's have Wheeler perform before we anoint that a steal. How about Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps? Great deal for the Nats a few years ago.
Do you think the Giants will refrain from being sellers strictly for economic reasons in terms of filling the park? The team is done now matter how much a pollyanna a fan is but I think economic reasons against being sellers will trump sound baseball logic, what say you?
Interesting take, although they've probably sold most of their capacity for the rest of the season anyway. Where it could hurt is NEXT year, but even then ... I doubt it. Giants are so popular right now that it would take 2-3 bad years before the fans start losing significant interest.
Don't think I've seen an answer to this. What's the equivalent A (minor league) of major conference college baseball? My guess would be that it's equivalent to AA.
People like to say it's Double-A, but it's not, not even close. How many players on a good ACC or SEC end up playing in the pros? (I'm not sure, but it's not the entire team.) So maybe Low A at best.
Saw Jonah Keri say this on Twitter, but it is still amazing to me that Randy Johnson is somehow underrated historically. That's all I really wanted to say.
I tend to agree with Jonah. I think there's an argument that he's the greatest pitcher ever. Not saying he is, but you can make the argument without stretching things too much.
Well, the Rangers would probably like to have not sent Chris Davis for Koji Uehara...
Yes, that one.
re: Sam's question, the do-over I want is the Singleton/Santana - Pence trade, particularly in light of Phils' playoff flameout that year.
Who would you rather have to start a franchise with? Harper, Trout, Machado, or Puig?
Trout. Chatters? (Hey, we haven't discussed this in at least three weeks!)
Don't you think it's a little overly simplistic to say the Rangers offense isn't good when they rank in the top half of the league in runs, OBP and slugging? I think missing Kinsler for a month was a lot more serious than a lot of people are willing to realize.
Some of that is ballpark inflation. 4.40 runs per game, below AL average, Playing half your games in the best hitter's park in the league, that's a below-average offense and half a run lower than last year.
Machado but just by an inch
In two years the Ms will regret the Pineda/Montero trade.
Are the Mariners a playoff team with Shin-Shoo Choo, Adam Jones, and Cliff Lee?
You left off Asdrubal Cabrera.
Trout and it's not even a discussion. Probably Machado next due to health concerns around the way Harper plays.
I'd still put Harper second and I say that knowing that Machado has been my favorite player to watch this year. Harper's offensive upside is still unknown.
I dont understand why the Giants are not thinking as sellers? If they were not the defending WS Champs it is an obvious sell situation. They have some pieces that could bring back some decent prospects to help a minor league system that is seriously barren.
Philly's TV contract will be nowhere near the Dodgers, the market is not that big and it's a 3rd/4th tier East "Coast" city.
Philly is a big market. Not L.A., but what, fifth biggest metro area in the country? They won't get Dodgers money but they'll well for themselves.
Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, and Boof Bonser for A-freaking-J Pierzynski.
Re: Andrew, regarding Rangers' offense.The problem is that guys like Andrus, Murphy, and since mid-May, Lance Berkman have all failed to contribute to the level they were expected. Moreland has been streaky as well. 4 guys that were expected to help the offense churn have been virtual non-factors thus far.
Who's contract will look worse when it's over, AROD's or Pujols?
At least the Yankees won a World Series with A-Rod in 2009.
Would 10/140 be a fair price for both Trout and the Angels right now?
It would be fair for the Angels. Well, I mean, Trout could probably live off $140 million, but he'd probably hold out for more.
Machado's offensive upside could be huge as well if/when he bulks up and all the doubles begin turning into HRs. Plus his defensive is off the charts.
Best third baseman I've ever seen. Jim Palmer said the other he makes plays that Brooks Robinson couldn't make.
Howard's contract will end up being worse than either Arods or Pujlos. At least those guys aren't platoon players at the age of 31.
That's what the piece that Dan Szymborski wrote today suggested.
You don't hear historical legacy much for GM's, but if Beane (the A's) were to win a WS, doesn't Beane go down as the best GM of all-time, or at least close to. Along the same lines, who's the best GM of all-time?
Hmm ... good question. In the old, old days, the manager (like John McGraw) also made the personnel decisions. That role started changed in the '30s and '40s. Branch Rickey was basically a GM, so hard to say it's not him. Pat Gillick made the Hall of Fame a couple years ago. I think he's the only modern GM to get elected.
Do you think the Tigers can stand pat in the reliever position with the way Benoit and Smyly been playing?
I think their bullpen is fine. I mean, sure, you could add another guy for depth, but I wouldn't want to pony up for Papelbon and Smyly/Benoit are solid enough.
Does anyone here find the push for Puig in the all star voting by espn disgusting? What happened to unbiased reporting? Imean two days ago on espn in big letters it said vote puig...wth is that ?
I'm not sure what you're referring to or where you saw it, so can't really comment. But I don't think ESPN has an agenda here other than mentioning Puig before the other guys -- which, to me, is fair, considering Puig has been one of the biggest stories of the first half.
Against RHP 2013Longoria .267/.332/.500/.832Kipnis .286/.380/.503/.882
Hi David-It looks like Hicks is starting to come around. Do you think he could end up being above average? If Buxton fulfills his potential and Arcia keeps getting better, Arcia in left, Hicks in right and Buxton in center should be exciting in a couple years, don't you think? Thanks!
Sure, I'm not quite ready to write him off. Everyone still likes his tools and he's always been a guy slow to adapt to a new level. Not sure he'll be above-average, but he should provide decent OBP and solid defense. And ... yes, Twins are going to be very exciting in a few years. Don't forget Miguel Sano.
Trout has 1 more pre-arb year ($1M) and 3 arb years ($39M). So say $40M before FA. The problem with the 10/140 is that you are then saying 6/$100M for years 26-31. If he goes year to year, he might be in line for 10/$300M.
How about the Phillies trading Cliff Lee to the Mariners? Lee, Cy Young Roy Halladay, and Cole Hamels along with a younger, slightly more formidable lineup, would have been World Series favorites by a longshot
That trade didn't make sense at the time. Never understood why the Phillies did that, especially for such a lukewarm (even then) group of prospects.
Kershaw better not have another Met steal a Cy Young that he deserves this year. I'll lose it if it happens again! 1.87 ERA and they still have Harvey (2.35) at the top of their lists! What does Kersh have to do!
I think you're safe. Harvey will probably be shut down before 200 innings. Now, Adam Wainwright on the other hand ...
Imagine how the Pirates would be doing if they had Machado at SS instead of Taillon in AA.
In order, which Mariners OF/DH is most likely to be traded: Morse, Morales, Rauuuuuuuuuul?
Morse, Rauuuuuuuuul, Morales.
When Machado was coming up the Os farm system he was a SS. The longer he plays at 3rd does that all but keep him in the position? Or do the Os eventually try to move him back there whenever Hardy is gone?
Very good question. I don't have a good answer, since I'm sure he'd be very good defensively at SS. I guess it depends on who have coming up through the system. Personally, as hard as shortstops are to find, I'd have a hard time moving him off 3B. That's how good he is there.
Can we all just appreciate the irony of people being mad at Braves' fans for supporting their player in large numbers?
I believe the Braves have the No. 1 team page on our site. They have a LARGE group of fans out there, so not too surprising Freeman is getting support.
What about Evan Gattis compared to Puig or Harper. Gattis in 53 (many of those of the bench, only 183 PA) games 1.8 WAR. Puig 33 games 2.1 WAR (140 PA). Harper 1.7 WAR in 52 games (214 PA)
Amaro said the Cliff Lee deal to Seattle was about money. Then David Montgomery reversed course and raised the payroll to bring him back. Now they're bailing.
The Pirates have to be super aggressive at the deadline, right? I mean there is no way the fan base which has been told we are building for a future, is going to accept anything but going for it this year as now is the future.
They need to do something. I would add a reliever for depth, consider a starting pitcher (you never know) and find a right fielder (Schierholtz?).
Giants will never be sellers. They have so much economic firepower right now. With Lincecum and Zito coming off the books after the season, they'll resign Pence and still have left overs to go after someone. Really quick trade, Bud Norris for Clayton Blackburn and Gary Brown. Norris is young, cheap, and controllabel. Does that get it done??
Maybe. Gary Brown has been pretty bad though, so you're talking Blacburn and a fourth/fifth outfielder for Norris. Not sure I'd do it; depends how much a team likes Blackburn.
Strasburg might get an extension at some point. How aggressive will the Nats be? How aggressive SHOULD the Nats be given his health thus far?
I guess the easy answer here: Scott Boras guys hardly ever sign before free agency anyway. (I would be cautious if I were the Nats. Let's see if he can pitch 200 innings before giving him a Felix/Verlander type deal.)
Cubs will never trade schierholtz within the division
I'll be even mroe mad if it's wainwright. Atleast Harvey can lean on his strikeout dominance. Wainwright is worse than Kershaw in EVERY category. And don't give me k/bb ratio - Hits are worse to give up than walks and he's allowed a lot more of those than kershaw!
But could a 21 year old turn down 140 million dollars? That's the question.
Am I crazy for thinking the Marlins might be decent in 2015? Say they extend Stanton, they have yelich, ozuna, marisnuck, LoMo, plus Jose Fernandez, turner, Eovaldi, and Nicolino plus some new prospects. Obviously some won't work out, but I don't think the fish will suck
I think the Marlins are ahead of the Astros right now in the rebuilding process. Astros don't have anyone close to the value of Stanton and Fernandez.
OK, final thoughts time ... everyone send in your final thought/comment of the day.
I wonder if we changed the way we listed Pitcher's stats if we could change the view. If the first stat listed was always Innings Pitched, maybe we'd see more love for Very Good Starters >>>> Great Relievers.
Agreed. Most, if not all, good/very good starters would be great relievers.
Do you think Cano deserves a 10 year $250 million deal? Will the Yankees give it to him?
No, too old. Maybe.
Kershaw is an interesting comp to Randy Johnson in the sense they are dominate lefties but are under appericated due to being on the west coast.
Is Jose Tabata the answer to the Pirates RF situation?
I think when Jeter, Granderson and A-Rod come back the Yankees are due for a huge run.
The Giants can solve all of the Pirates problems with one massive trade of Pence, Lopez and Lincecum. What would it take to get that done in terms of prospects?
With all the Trout, Harper, Machado and Harvery v. Kershaw comps it just makes me happy knowing the level of young talent baseball has right now.
Short term memories. When he came up, a lot of people were saying Castro's ceiling was a slightly better than Yuniesky Betancourt. Seems about right.
OK, that's it for today. Thanks, everyone! Enjoy your baseball.