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That infield IS awesome, isn't it?!
Nick Franklin is destroying the 2nd baseman record books. On his current pace over a full season he would hit lots of DINGERS!!! In the minors he usually hit well when moving up a level then he would go through a slump and come out of it. We have seen that already in some ways. You think this is who he is maybe without some of the power?
He's been great. Confident hitter, good approach, power better than expected. I think the power may be legit, especially since he'll probably add a few more pounds to his frame. Very good player, will be a championship-caliber second baseman.
Pleas tell me my Bucs make a move for a bat....I actually like the idea of Shierhotz over a guy like Rios (too much ego for this team). What are the chances? Thanks!
I don't think the Pirates take on Rios' salary. But they certainly need a right fielder -- they're last in the majors in OPS from right field. Schierholtz is the guy everyone seems to be steering in their direction.
What kind of prospect list would the Os have to send Chicago to land Peavy assuming the Os take most of the money? Could they keep Gausman and Bundy and pull it off?
They won't give up those two guys. The issue is if a team like the Cardinals gets involved and they're willing to part with somebody like Michael Wacha, a tier below Bundy/Gausman, but better than the second tier of Orioles guys.
Pitching is expensive. Orioles should look to upgrade DH. 14th in the AL OPS. Dhs are hitting .200 with a .259 OBP. How about Mike Morse from the Mariners?
When is ESPN going to hold the telethon to help raise money to get Jerry Meals exiled to the Appalachian League? After all, he was the sole reason the Red Sox lost that game last night and, if nothing else, the Worldwide Leader is in business to make sure the people of the Northeast get the peace of mind they deserve through the success of their team, or the punishment of the people who keep them from said success.
David....has ESPN asked you to participate in the inevitable protest to MLB, demanding that Jerry Meals be demoted to the Gulf Coast League based on him costing the Red Sox a game in the middle of the season?
Do you see Lincecum signing a one year Edwin Jackson style contract? He could restablish some value with a strong season, especially if he pitches well the rest of the season. Lincecum this year 3.69 FIP, 3.25 xFIP.
Makes sense. Maybe he goes to the Mariners? He still owns a home in Seattle.
Are the Yankees going to make any big deals before the deadline?
I don't think so. It's really about getting Jeter going and Granderson back. And, of course ... the guy whose name we won't mention.
Could Carlos Gomez win the MVP despite the Brewers lost season. He has the highest WAR by alot
No. Players on losing teams don't win MVP Awards. Last guy I believe was Ripken in 1991. In fact, if your team doesn't make the playoffs it's hard to win.
Hey David, what happened to the Rangers hitting and can they do something about it?
With Berkman out, I think they'll look to add a bat, especially since they also have to be ready for Nelson Cruz to get suspended. Mike Morse is a guy who could fit -- DH or 1B (Moreland hasn't done much lately). Just don't play him in the outfield.
In the NFL two refs are required to declare a catch on the sidelines, one watches the catch, the other watches the feet. Why can't the MLB find 3rd Base umpires that can move well enough to get a view of plays at the plate from a different angle? I feel like this would potentially eliminate bad calls like last night(where I'm pretty sure Meals just thought Molina successfully blocked the plate) while not slowing down the game with instant replay.
What if the two umps disagree?
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He hasn't received much support from the Baseball Writers, who seems biased against everyone from that era. My guess is McGriff will have a long wait but eventually gets in via the Veterans Committee.
Could Archer go on a Medlin type run from last year?
I don't think he has the command to be as consistent as Medlen was last year, but I love that kid. Great stuff, last start was dominant (granted, against a lineup full of Triple-A Yankees). Rays do it again with a pitching prospect.
A-Rod with the '03 Rangers was the last MVP on a losing team, I think.
Ahh, good call. They were 71-91 that year.
Rumor has it that the Phillies will trade Lee to the Red Sox in a package centered around Xander Bogarts. Do you think the Red Sox are wiling to do that?
I don't think they'll trade Bogaerts. But they have enough depth to land Lee for a package of guys -- Garin Cecchini, Henry Owens, Matt Barnes, etc. Maybe Will Middlebrooks.
Please tell me the Pirates aren't trading Glasnow for Bud Norris.
I'm with you, Norris is not a difference-maker.
Why does everyone consider Jake Peavy such a hot commodity? Yes, he was good last year, but he has been so-so in 2013, is basically made of glass, and owns an 0-2 record with a 12.10 ERA in his only two playoff starts.
I kind of agree with you. He's made just two starts since returning from the DL and gave up three home runs in his last one (although the stuff looked good). True, Chicago is a home run park, but he's allowed 14 home runs in 80 innings this year. He's a hot commodity because he's a big name and a respected veteran, but I think he's more of a 3-4 guy right now.
Why do you think MLB is held to a different standard than the rest of professional sports with regards to PEDs? Is it do the record books and the importances MLB places on stats?
If Beachy continues to struggle, do the Braves need a Peavy/Lee type starter? Minor and Teheran have been solid, but the latter might hit 200 innings this year and Paul Maholm is...Paul Maholm.
Braves in an interesting position ... you can't judge Beachy after one start ... they have a big enough lead that they probably don't need to make a big deal ... but the rotation has some concerns as you mention. I think they're sleeper team to land Peavy. (Lee -- doesn't seem like a Braves kind of deal.)
Will the Indians make a move before tomorrow evening? They could really use a pitching upgrade in either the pen or the rotation.
They'll probably add a bullpen arm or two.
I agree with everything you said about the bad call in the Red Sox / Tampa game. Maybe Nava should have scored the AB before. However, the Ump missed the call because he was in awful position. The bottom line is a mistake like that shouldn't lost ANY team a game.
Let's be clear: It didn't cost the Red Sox the game. Would have been tied, so they still had a 50 percent chance of losing. But isn't that usually the position the ump is in on a call at home plate? I think Meals just missed it more than being out of position.
If you could have either Shierhotlz, Moralas, or Rios, who do you take?
I'd probably go Schierholtz, even though he's a platoon guy. Morales at first and Jones in right field weakens the defense quite a bit.
While few figured Chris Davis would keep up his 1st half pace he's fallen off a cliff since the all-star break. Was his first half a fluke or is this just a prolonged slump he's get out of?
Not a fluke so much as a 35-homer guy just having a great run. His plate discipline has fallen off a bit in the second half, sinking his batting average.
Everyone assumes Pence and Lincecum should be traded, but wouldn't it make better sense for the Giants to make the qualifying offers to Pence and Lincecum instead of trading them for prospect due to the fact that if Pence and Lincecum do leave via FA, they get draft pick compensation most likely between the first and second round, which most times translate to a top prospect. So less the Giants are truly blown away by a teams offer which includes a top prospect, I see no chance the Giants move Pence or Lincecum. Is that the sense you're getting??
I think Pence would deserve a qualifying offer but it's possible Lincecum would accept it, so the Giants would have to weigh that risk.
Instant replay for calls at home plate -- seems like a no brainer
I think it happens this winter. Have to do it.
Andrew - Ask Pirates fans about Jerry Meals and bad calls.
Do you think that umpiring is really a problem? Seems to me they only get noticed when they make a mistake, and then its all over SC, but for the most part I think they do a good job considering everyone hates them and is waiting for them to screw up.
True, I do think they get a bit of an unfair rap. That said, in this day where we can watch every play of every game, bad calls get amplified. It affects the perception of the sport (fair or not) in a negative light and that's why more replay is needed/inevitable.
If the Braves need a Peavy/Lee type, they'd better do it now. They don't have time to see if Beachy continues to struggle.
Could pick up somebody AFTER the trade deadline. Say the Royals fall out of it, maybe you can get an Ervin Santana.
Even before the Hudson's injury, I've been worried about their starting pitching (obviouslly a lot more now). Personally, I think they have a great depth, but they lack a true #1 starter, especially for the playoffs. Do you think they need to make a trade for a guy like Loshe, Peavy, etc.?
Personally, my take is Lee is the only guy worth going after if you're the Braves. They're going to win the division, so you're really talking about upgrading the playoff rotation. Peavy is no guarantee there. But Lee would be obviously be huge. But do the Braves have the top-line prospects to deal? Their system isn't as deep as, say, the Red Sox or Cardinals.
Isn't all this A-Rod "lifetime" ban talk because Yankee fans want him off the books so they can overpay Cano? If they lifetime ban A-rod, they have a long list of names they can add to the precedent they set, right?
A-Rod has never been suspended or punished for drugs. If MLB bans him for conduct detrimental to the game, it establishes a pretty scary precedent. (Of course, A-Rod would file a lawsuit that would probably drag on for years.)
Well again using the NFL, when the refs each see things differently they have a conference and come to an agreement. I imagine, using last night as an example again, that Meals would have differed to the other ump knowing that being behind the catcher couldn't have possibly yielded the best view of what really happened.
Sure, that's possible. Not sure why umps don't confer more often.
Don't jump off the A's bandwagon to the TB bandwagon. I actually would like TB to win it all. Go back to your west coast bias. :)
A's-Rays ALCS! Winners gets the Pirates in the World Series. Small-market baseball rules!
I think the problem with the umpires is as much the ones who have too much of an attitude and go on a power trip after THEY mess something up. I remember Russell Martin getting tossed out of a game in Atlanta for apparently nothing by Dan Iasogna. Then he threw out Hurdle. His strike zone was pitiful the whole game (pitchtrax showed him missing tons of calls) then he goes on a power trip and thrwos everybody out. That's the kind of thing about umpires that bothers me. Or when Bryce Harper got thrown out for looking at the ump the wrong way over a check swing call. I think you should have to do something pretty significant to get thrown out.
Hudson- $9 million, McCann (likely gone to AL)- $12 million, Maholm-6.5 million, all come off the books next year. Braves have rest of core under contract for cheap. Lee is doable if they want him, and the only option that truly improves their October rotation.
Want an out there prediction? The Marlins are going to make the playoffs and possibly win the World Series. That's right, the Marlins. Few people know that they have the best record in the NL East since June started, or that they have the same record in that span as the Pirates. They have a lot of very very talented kids, an Ace-level pitcher, and this kid named Giancarlo. If they put it all together before september, they're the only team I could see going on an 07-Rockies type run.
Wait ... you're talking 2013? You realize they have to win 24 games in a row just to get to .500, right?
I think the biggest area of improvement baseball can/should make to umpiring has nothing to do with their actual calls -- it's their deportment. There are way, way too many umpires itching to throw players out of games. You see it in the way they stare at players who say something to them, eyeball them back to the dugout or even advance in their direction to confront the players. Whatever happened to turning away from the players after they've said their piece and moving on?
to Matt in Boise:I think another reason the outcry in Baseball is so much greater is that we care about the game; it means more to us as a society or culture, despite the protestations of some (I call them misguided) that the game is no longer America's Pastime. It still is, and the louder outcry over Baseball's PED problems (when those same problems are much worse in other sports) is indicative of the fact the it still is our National Pastime. (see Jones, James Earl; speech in Field of Dreams)
I'm under the impression the Giants would be okay with Lincecum accepting a qualifying offer. He's pitched better as of late, and they don't have a replacement lined up in the wings just yet...
Are the Mets still paying me?
Yes ... but it wasn't that dumb of a deal by the Mets. http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-contract-new-york-mets-bobby-bonilla-2013-7
If A-Rod is suspended through the end of 2014, and the Yankees eat the rest of his contract, at that point would anyone sign him?
Very unlikely. Would any team really want the headache?
Is anyone else annoyed about the Red Sox homeplate call uproar? There are 50 important bang-bang plays everyday in MLB that you don't hear about.
What do you think Manny Machado's *true talent* numbers are right now? At his peak?
He's 20. I don't think we know what his true talent is right now -- although he was probably over his head the first two months. Peak? I think he'll be a 45-double, 25-homer guy, with plate discipline determining if he'll be a .315 hitter or something less. Also: Buck, give the kid a day off.
Seems like the Yankees can't give Phil Hughes away. Do you think Hughes could make a successful return to the bullpen adn help the Pirates out?
Most starters would be good relievers.
Even with Jeter and Soriano, shouldn't every team start like 2 lefties against this awful Yankees lineup. I would start a long relief lefty against them. Just hideous.
Sure. If you're the Rays, why not start Alex Torres and give him 3-4 innings?
Pittsburgh Sports Radio reporting Rios and cash for Dickerson and Norris for Glasnow. Not thrilled about Norris, but if Wandy comes back, i guess he's not a bad #5 right? Thoughts on Rios? I'm thinking Russell Martin can keep his ego in check.
Just rumors. Don't see anything else out there.
Manny Machado is 21 now. Not that that's much different than 20...
I guess I didn't get invited to the birthday party.
Do you see any NL team currently out of playoff position (Nationals, DBacks) making a run? It looks like the Dodgers are about to run away with the West.
I'm giving up on the D-backs just yet but I've finally waved the white flag on the Nationals. Not going to happen.
Paul Goldschmidt has cooled off of late. Do you think he'll end up in the top three in the NL MVP voting?
NL MVP race is very wide open right now. Time to start talking Kershaw there though, isn't it?
Speaking of lefties against the Yankees what do you think Kershaw will do against them tomorrow?
If he's ever going to throw a no-hitter ...
I've seen speculation on Howie Kendrick to the Royals. But KC can't supply the Angels high-end pitching they're looking for if they move him. Is this true?
I think Angels are more likely to trade Kendrick and/or Aybar in the offseason, when more teams could be in the talks. Trouble is: Who do they have to replace those guys?
While the Mariners have been playing better lately, it is very unlikely they will actually make the playoffs. And no one is going to the ballpark to see Kendrys Morales play. With that in mind, why WOULDN'T they trade him to a team (like the Rangers, for example)? It's not like they are going to offer the guy a qualifying offer anyways
Well, yes, if they don't plan on extending him a qualifying offer, then you probably should trade. But (A) I think they do give him the offer; and (B) there are benefits to actually winning games the final two months -- building fan interest for next year, which leads to more season-ticket sales and so on.
Every reliever, including Mariano Rivera, is a failed starter. Nobody grows up dreaming of being an 8th inning setup guy.
Do you think the Cardinals will make any deals before the deadline? Any suspicions?
Depends how comfortable they are with Joe Kelly and Jake Westbrook in the rotation. I think they end up sitting tight and keeping the young talent.
Every reliever, Jake in Atlanta?
Chapman was a starter in the minors. Couldn't pitch more than 4-5 innings without losing his stuff.
Would the White Sox consider a Peavy for Mark Trumbo trade? Trumbo might be a good replacement for Konerko
Don't think the Angels do that -- Peavy is a health risk and only signed for another year. Trumbo is cheap and pretty good.
If your name was Ben Cherington, what would you pay for Cliff Lee? And what if the cost was like the Punto trade: take Paps and Howards deals and you can have him?
The Punto trade: Love it. Don't think the Red Sox want anything to do with those two contracts. Plus, I think if the Phillies do trade Lee, they're better off getting the best prospects possible as opposed to trying dump Papelbon/Howard.
If the Yankees are out of it, come the wire trade line, would they consider giving Mariano a chance to win it-all, on another team? Doesn't Mariano deserve it, for all he's done for the Yankees, in his last season, especially with the season he has put together?
Intriguing idea, but can't see the Yankees doing it or Mariano even wanting to do it.
Couldn't the Mets and Angels get together on some trades - Mets have a lot of young pitching and Angels have alot of young hitting?
Angels have two young hitters. Trout and Trumbo. That's not a lot.
Since Machado's 21st B-Day: .207/.226/.369. LAY OFF THE HOOCH, MANNY.
While it's true that very, very few relievers come to professional baseball as relievers, it's a bit of revisionist history about Mariano being a "failed starter." What he was, in fact, was someone recuperating from Tommy John surgery, which seriously impacted his short-lived starting career. He became a reliever as a stopgap in the 1995 playoffs (as David will remember very clearly), and they felt he could contribute more quickly as a set-up guy in 1996 rather than wait to stretch out his arm as a starter and put more strain on his arm.
I've always wondered: What if the Yankees HAD made Rivera a starter, say after that great set-up season in 1996? One of baseball's great what-ifs ...
Is Peavy a less talented pitcher now than he was in San Diego, or is the apparent decline simply a reflection of going from the most pitcher-friendly home park to one of the most homer-friendly? If the latter, couldn't we expect him be dominant once again if he returns to a big park in the National League (Atlanta, St. Louis, L.A.)?
Park effects are certainly part of it, but I don't think he has quite the same explosive stuff he had during his Padres peak.
re: lincecum....to tie into your liriano piece, if liriano can get 2 yrs then someone's gonna give lincecum at least that. as a twins fan i should point out that i highly doubt liriano has figured anything out. every three years he's a world beater. then he reverts to form. drove us nuts.
I have seen rumors saying that Toronto could consider shopping Bautista? Is that just speculation?
Don't know the validity to that. He'd look good in a Pirates uniform though.
Perez, E. Beltre, 2 top 10 minor league prospects and a player to be named(off a list that Marlins can choose from) for Stanton. who says no Rangers or Marlins?
Not even close. You have to start with Profar and then starting adding players to get Stanton.
Hard to imagine that Pujols is likely to be an incredibly worse signing than A-Rod.
After reading that Pujols article it made me wonder. Why don't more teams front load the contracts they give out to free agents? Seems better than paying the highest AAV when the players have their least value?
I think because teams generally operate in a short window of thinking. The future? Ehh, we'll worry about that in the future. Kind of the way our government works the national debt.
isn't the reason why baseball is held to a higher standard is because they weren't testing for so long? NFL was testing before MLB i thought ...
When will everybody realize that the Marlins are not going to trade Stanton?
Bud Norris has been pulled from his start tonite! just sayin'......
Jose Bautista would look good in a Pirates uniform...hey, wait...http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/daily-pitch/2010/09/23/bautista3x-large.jpg
I wouldn't give up a bag of used BP balls for Rios, let along Taillon or Polanco. And if Bud Norris is being looked at, that means Wandy is probably done for the year, right? Yikes.....if that's the case, just stand pat at this point.
Did Mariano have multiple effective pitches back in his starting days?
Good question. I'm pretty sure he didn't learn the cutter until the spring of '97. I believe he was mostly mid/upper-90s fastballs in '95 and '96. Maybe threw a slider? I'll have to dig out my 1995 playoff tapes!
Is Verlander no longer an "ace"? If I was a Tigers fan I begin worrying that all of the innings he's thrown have started to show.
Hasn't struck out more than five batters in his past eight starts.
No one asking "What about our overpriced bust/injury-risk FA/fungible middle RP to the Tigers for Castellanos" yet? This is disappointing, so I'll ask- two teams with key pieces facing possible PED suspensions. Tigers send Nick Castellanos and Avasail Garcia to Texas for Jurickson Profar and a B prospect- who says no?
Interesting ... I'm not sure Castellanos and Garcia are going to big stars (think both are a little overhyped), so I think if the Rangers did trade Profar it would be for more of a sure thing (and immediate help).
what will Jim Leyland do when the playoffs roll around and he's deciding on his game 1 starter? in a 5 game series, that's an especially important decision. does he give JV two starts, or do they go the Scherzer?
Has to be Scherzer right now, no?
If I were Terry Ryan, I'd seriously consider moving Glen Perkins before the deadline. I don't know that his trade value is going to get much higher, and there are a bunch of teams looking for bullpen help. Besides, Ryan has a history of getting some great prospect hauls in trades.
Most closers have short life spans. I'd trade him -- although, to be fair, his value isn't going to change between now and the offseason, so they could always shop him then as well.
Verlander again shows the danger of short term thinking. If the guy is broken down and will never be the same, the Tigers sure paid a lot for him. just think of what bad shape the Giants would be in now if Lincecum hadn't insisted on a short term deal, so that he could keep himself "fresh" and "sharp"
Gut feeling, who gets traded from the Phils?
Michael Young. Lee and Utley stay.
Why dont the Orioles go after Dunn? We need a DH!
Porcello is having a better July than Verlander...what in the world is going on???
With so much information about prospects now readily available to fans, do you think there will be a point where trade deadline moves that clear the deck for prospects actually help to increase fan interest and attendance?
I'm not sure if there's an immediate return on that. Mariners fans may be excited to see Brad Miller and Nick Franklin, but that's because they've been reading about those guys for three years. (And they're playing well.) Acquiring a guy from another team that you know nothing about isn't going to push the needle.
Why do you think Castellanos is overrated? He has hit at every level so far and his bat is better than Profars. The only reason Profar has more value is because he plays SS. I will take the better bat than the glove anyday.
Just my personal take. He has improved his strikeout-walk ratio this year. Not sure he's going to have big power numbers. .443 slugging in Triple-A is OK (he's just 21) but doesn't scream future star to me.
Where does Morneau end up going? Baltimore? Pittsburgh? Some where else? And what do you think the Twins get for him? A couple of 2nd tier prospects?
Any chance the Buccos make a run at Justin Morneau? This could be a major piece to not just making the playoffs but winning it all.
Orioles, Pirates, Rangers all make sense for Morneau, although he's hardly a difference-maker, needs to be platooned, and his hitting .180 in July. In other words, buyer beware.
Could the problem with Verlander be he dated Kate Upton? Mark Sanchez had a terrible season after he dated her.
I thought they were engaged?
Kennedy, Skaggs, Davidson for Cliff Lee + some cash, who says no?
That's in the ballpark. Depends what you think of Davidson ... I'm a little skeptical because of all the K's. Could be a Mark Reynolds-type.
Whats the latest on Brian Wilson?
Rumors are Dodgers, Pirates, Diamondbacks ...
OK, everyone, send in your final thoughts for the day ...
@ Ken in Palo Alto, at least it wasn't a 10 year deal for Verlander, though ...
So with the Orioles being said to not have a lot of young depth and no money, why they rumored to be in on Morneau, Norris, Peavy, Morse, etc.? Did I miss something where is this a most win season? We have players on the young side just about everywhere on the diamond. Why mess up or make the minds of the young guys upset? Our rotation is fine: Tillman (12-2), Miguel G, Feldman, Chen and Hammel (only one really slumping). Our offense is 1st in AL in HRs. Just need to get hot again.
Offense is good, but has glaring holes at DH and 2B, so they could still upgrade there. And Davis and Machado have cooled off, so offense won't score as many runs as it did the first half if the O's just stand pat.
"Just need to get hot again", as an Angels fan, I can say to you it may never happen.
Final thought: GO BUCCOS
Brian Wilson....maybe the Beach Boys
Wilson agreed to a minor league deal with the dodgers Bowden just reported.
Peavy scratch from tonight's start against Tribe. Any predictions on where he is headed.
No predictions! I'll just be wrong. (Cardinals.)
Does the CBA require CLiff Lee trade rumors in July?
Article 6ii, section 2a.
Jackie Bradley Jr. in a Cliff Lee deal, as a Phils/ South Carolina fan, I'd love that!
Final thought: PUIG FEVER
Final Thought - Where is Grady Sizemore?
I wasn't kidding about Dunn, he would be an upgrade over what we have now!
If the Giants do trade Pence.....Pence to the Rangers for Joey Gallo, Martin Perez. Or maybe a straight trade for Jurickson Profar.
Speedy recovery Grilli!
Final thought: Selig needs to spend less time chasing PED demons and more time solving the problems with officiating and replay. Starting in this year's playoffs.
The greatest BJ Upton's contribution to the Braves is NOT comming back. PLEASE BJ STAY IN DL!!!!
Do you think Hal Steinbrenner has pleasant dinner-table conversation with his brother Hank about the latter's decision to extend A-Rod's contract in 2008?
Lovely. Thanks, everyone. We'll be chatting all day tomorrow from 10 to 5 on ESPN.com.