Let's do this! It's the Tuesday Boxing Chat. Plenty to talk about as usual. So let's start throwing punches ...
Got some goood questions for you today Brian!!!!!
Well quit singing it Jules and start bringing it.
Did you see Rios and Pacquiao on 1st take? they just talked about Manny the whole time and I don't think they knew who Rios was.
I have to agree with you there. I felt there was a bit too much Manny/Floyd talk considering Rios was right there and that is the fight coming up. But it was great getting to see both fighters splashed across many different ESPN platforms on Monday as part of their worldwide, seven-city media tour. I was able to get about 10 minutes with each fighter and both had plenty to say.
B-Ciddy, because of his one punch KO power, do you think Curtis Stevens poses the toughest threat to GGG at 160? (not saying he will win)
I think there are other fighters that pose a bigger threat based upon being more well-rounded. But you can't argue with Stevens' power. If he ends up getting the GGG fight it will surely be entertaining for as long as it will last. Curtis' one-punch KO of Saul Roman on Saturday in the first round was about as good as it gets if you are looking for a showcase towards a bigger fight. That guy moves product. Wow.
Soup! How about Curtis Stevens vs Kid Chocolate? Winner gets a shot at Golovkin. Then that winner gets a shot at Maravilla. Your thoughts?
Well, your plan would definitely be foiled based upon the fact that three of those four fighters are tied down to a specific network. But I would love to see Stevens in with either GGG or Quillin in his next fight. Both would be plenty entertaining and intriguing.
Yes GGG has more experience and is the better overall fighter... BUT Stevens has a DEADLY left hook and just throws with bad intentions. Would be interesting
Stevens has scary power and great form with that left hook. There is no question. You can't count him out of any fight. But, what happens when a top-end middleweight can take his best punch and is able to pull him into deep waters late in a fight?
Brian, I was just telling my TV sister Janet Jackson the Tuesday Boxing Chat with Brian Campbell is going to be DY-NO-MITE!
Well played. I like that.
Brian,Is a Golovkin vs Stevens fight imminent now after Stevens' Stellar Knockout?
Like Stevens said after his KO of Roman, it's really up to Golovkin and his people. GGG has the November 2 HBO date locked down at the MSG Theater. Let's see what happens from here.
Brian: I am still picking Danny Garcia to outbox Matthysse and win a lopsided points decision victory popping the Matty bubble of invincibility. Agree?
Disagree, Al. But I respect your opinion and also believe Garcia is a tough enough fighter to make that a compelling fight for a set number of rounds. I just think "The Machine's" power catches up to him later in the fight in a very damaging sort of way.
Exactly. Great analysis.
"Showtime" Stevens vs GGG anyone???
Me. Right here. Yeah, the guy in the David Price t-shirt. I'll take it!
Brian: Do you see a Wilder vs Aerrola fight down the road if Chris beats Mitchell as expected?
I could see that, yes. Not a bad idea.
You see the Mayorga mma fight?
How'd you know I'd be a sucker for that kind of thing? Yeah, I saw it. What can you really say?
Am I the only one not sold on Garcia as a legit champ? His best win was a lucky punch knockout of Khan. Then he fought a series of guys that are well past their prime.
He has more to prove. There is no question. I'm not fully sold, although up to the final five rounds of the Judah fight, he had consistently gone above my expectations for him.
Chewie is the best!
I think a GGG/ Stevens would be fun. stevenson's knockout was brutal, but don't forget, he got outboxed and knocked down by Jessie Brinkley.
There's no question that the Brinkley fight was the low-point in his career. But to argue for Curtis, that fight was in Jan. 2010 and fought at a different weight class. He was out of the ring for over two full years and has come back a bit reborn and focused, albeit against relatively soft competition.
Before the back injury do you believe Pirog was on a higher trajectory than Golovkin?
Negatory, good buddy.
How scary is it to think How Sharp Floyd could be given this being his second fight in 4 months, no layoff no ring rust?
Scary. Look, we can all say what we want about certain things pertaining to Floyd. But we can never touch how prepared he is, how consistent he is and how simply amazing he looked in the Guerrero fight. After a performance like that, how can you predict he is anywhere near the downside to his career?
Hey Brian, in your opinion what is the best action fight in boxing, regardless of boxing politics. For me its Rios - Matthysse. Pure violence.
That's an answer that might be hard to beat right there.
Yes Curtis Stevens has the left hook going for him but if he couldn't land that shot enough times to KO Brinkley he sure won't land it enough times to survive against GGG!!!
That's a strong point. And let's not forget that for all we talk about Stevens' power, Derrick Findley was able to last the full distance against him in April.
Also... not exactly THIS day in history, but close... tomorrow is the anniversary of Chico Corrales vs Popo Freitas. Great fight, especially in retrospect.
Where would we be without our resident #TBC historian, the great KT?
Brian,What is best/deepest division in boxing right now in your opinion?
Besides welterweight, which, as boxing's glamour division in this Armageddon heavyweight era is seemingly always stacked, I really like 126, 140 and 168. And don't forget about this mini-resurgence at 160, as well.
Brian: Do you see Tyson Fury wearing down Haye over 12 rounds with his size and winning on points in a boring British heavyweight scrap?
No. I see him laying on his back at the end of a fun and enjoyable fight.
Garcia with one of those crazy overhand rights he likes to throw, catches up to matty right around the 6th, Garcia late KO
You are entitled to that opinion, of course, Oscar. But this ain't Morales.
More boring fighter to watch? Kermit Cintron or Eddie Chambers?
This guy Al is going to set a new record for most questions answered in one chat. I've got to go with Cintron right now. He's the equivalent of drinking generic super market brand diet and caffeine free soda.
Brother BC, do you think that boxing has been more effectively in curtailing PED use better than baseball?
I think boxing is an absolute mess.
Brian, do you think Bradley will have to press Marquez to win or is that just playing into the great counter punchers game?
As I've said before, I am loving this fight more and more every day as I continue to think about it. I do think Bradley will have to press him to win, but that obviously plays into JMM's strategy as a master counter puncher. I've already switched my opinion a few times as to who I think will win. Last week I was back on Bradley, this week it's Marquez. Can't wait for this one.
Take me down to the paradise cityWhere the grass is green and the girls are prettyTake me home (oh won't you please take me home)Take me down to the paradise cityWhere the grass is green and the girls are prettyTake me home (oh won't you please take me home)
I could really go for some "Rocket Queen" right now, myself. Especially the version off of that double live album.
Senor Brian, given that Rigondeaux is 33 in little more than a month, ideally where do you see him going with his career at this point? Why isn't he getting any fights?
It's hard to argue that any fighter coming off of the biggest victory of their career is in a worse spot than Rigo is right now. Not only is his promoter leery of how to market him, he doesn't currently have the blessing of HBO. I do think that eventually this whole #FreeRigo thing will come to pass and, once again, the Rigolution will be televised. I personally would love to see him build toward a rematch with Donaire and eventually a showdown with Mikey Garcia. How could HBO not want that?
Now to think of it, HBO would enjoy GGG beating up a man who goes by the moniker of 'Showtime'.
Haha. Never thought of it like that. Well done.
If Marquez beats Bradley and Alvarado beats Provodnikov, wouldn't Marquez-Alvarado be a fun (and logical) next fight for both?
No question. That's the remarkable thing about Top Rank's current claim in that 140-147 range. They don't have a lot to work with in terms of numbers, but all of their fighters (Pacquiao, Marquez, Bradley, Rios and Alvarado -- not to mention a good relationship with Provodnikov's promoter) can be mixed and matched multiple times in entertaining and meaningful fights.
I feel bad for fighters who come down in weight. Chambers was pitifully lethargic. This reminds me of Rjjr and Chris Byrd. They just were never the same after the weight cut from Heavyweight. Before that, it was insane to conceive Roy Jones losing a fight.
Going down in weight is incredibly difficult, there is no question. Very few fighters have been able to pull it off to large amounts of success. I can think of guys like Judah and Mosley who moved back down and were able to reclaim titles in recent memory, but it is rare.
What do you make of Gary Russel Jr. turning down a fight Ponce De Leon to fight Juan Ruiz ( a no name with 11 loses, who has lost his last 6)?
No one knows what Gary Russell Jr. is doing anymore.
Brian after hearing marquez repeat and repeat that there will never be a 5th pac vs jmm do you think he dosent want to fight pacman or is that just posturing for negoiations?
I still think it's posturing. He knows that 5th fight with Manny will be there whether he wins or loses so why not take a shot at doing something that means a lot to him, which is win a fifth title in a fifth division, right? I was shocked he chose this road right now, but that 5th fight, barring another Pacquiao KO, will be there.
Great work Brian. Kuddos for always being respecful and open minded in these chats first of all. Secondly, I know the Floyd-Pacquiao fight is dead in the water, but do you find it a little strange and kind of disrespectful how everyone now likes to say that Manny never had a shot based on an all time poor decision in the Bradley fight and a come out of nowhere KO loss to Marquez in a fight he was winning? I mean, he beat ODLH, Hatton, Cotto and Mosley all more decisively than Floyd and now everyone has forgotten so quickly. It's funny how you are only as good as your last moment in the ring in boxing. Pac was invincible 14 months ago.
Great stuff here, Chase. People have been VERY quick to sort of suddenly put down and underrate everything Pacquiao has done in his career thanks to these two defeats. Look, I have always had Mayweather winning in a bout between the two going as far back as people have talked about it. I just always favored his ability to box and figure out his opponent and minimize any damage coming back at him. But it would be ridiculous for anyone to discount the chances of an absolute prime Pacquiao from 2009 after the Cotto fight. That's as 50/50 of a fight as one could ever draw up, thus justifying the ridiculous fanfare that followed the original idea of it.
Are you really wearing a David Price T-Shirt? What a coincidence, I'm wearing a Hindenburg T-Shirt myself!
Hahaha. Same thing, right?
Pac will still go down as the most dangerous fighter of this generation. Careers basically over after fighting him: Oscar, Diaz, Hatton, Margarito, etc.
Not sure we heard from Clottey again, either, although I'm not sure he came out from behind his gloves long enough to do anything more than cash his check.
You going to buy one of my brushes or what?
Kermit Cintron should become a spokeman for Tab diet caffeine free supermarket soda, since his style is Total A** Boring.
We got jokes today in the #TBC. Haha. Not bad.
Whats your personal P4P top 5 rankings? I like your opinion over others.
1. Floyd2. Ward3. Marquez4. Rigondeaux5. Martinez
Does the fact that Gary Russel Jr. eternal rematch with TBA is not on TV signal that waning powers of AL Haymon?
Well, you could equally argue that this TBA guy's relationship with Haymon is paying off because he keeps being linked to fights with Russell.
Stephen (Topeka) - great point. And frankly, you can add Cotto, Morales and argueably Barerra to that list as well.
Pacquiao pretty much ended Morales and Barrera's runs on top as well. The glorious Maidana comeback fight not withstanding.
As much as I agree with Stephen's statement about Pacquiao, one could also argue that his career downslide began with all those body punches from Margarito, esp. the one in the sixth that nearly doubled him over.
When are we going to get another huge heavyweight fight in Las Vegas that actually generates buzz? It's been forever.
Well, considering Wlad is the man at heavyweight and he hasn't fought there since 2004 when he was down on his luck entering the DaVarryl Williamson fight, probably not anytime soon.
So when the lights went out on last weeks FNF, were you thinking that an Ocean's 11 heist was going on?
I had more of a "Snake Eyes" with Nicholas Cage sort of vibe going.
BC, love the chat! any news on the career of future HW champ of the world, "Sugar" Ray Edwards?
Thanks for the shout Ginger. Edwards talked a big game at the beginning of his boxing career but last we checked it's still stuck in neutral.
Brian of these 3 PPVs which was the most lop sised mismatch? Tyson-lewis mayorga de la hoya or gatti mayweather? Thanks
Interesting to see people discuss JMM's options after Bradley. No reason to fight Alvarado - not enough money for a tough fight. Reality check: JMM/Pacquiao five will do massive numbers with both coming off KO wins and JMM isn't gonna pass up $15M in the last fight of his career.
Our resident JMM superfan and all-around knowledgeable fight fan has spoken truth, once again.
Russel needs to stop signing contracts with TBA that have an eternal rematch clause in them.
Hey, I was just asking about Big John Stud!!!
The guy was a legend.
Seriously I got a thousand of these brushes no one wants. Please just buy one.
Where do you rank Marquez/Pacquiao in the series of great fight series? Above Rafael Marquez/Israel Vasquez?
I'm not sure how, at this point, you could rank a modern rivalry above Marquez-Pacquiao.
In recent memory has a promising career been derailed more violently than Gamboa's? He fell off a cliff as fast as Ike Ibeabuchi! (though for far less grim reasons)
Well, he still hasn't lost yet despite how much we have begun rightfully preparing his career obituary. But then again, Paul Spadafora hasn't lost either.
I cant agree with Rigo. He hasnt beat anyone but Donaire. Mares would test his chin at least. If your 122 or below you shouldnt be considered P4P. If that was the case than Roman Martinez is above Rigo
This guy Andrew is bringing the heat.
Charles makes a good point, I could tell those body punches were getting to pac from the upper deck. But, he has never taken body punches well, going back to his first KO losses when he was a flyweight. I still think religion has slowed Pac, Arum needs to get him some women and gambling
Most people don't realize how physically taxing the one-sided victory over Margarito was on Pacquiao. He took more punishment in that fight than almost any other when you add it up. The statistics back it up.
who is this eminem character people say i look like?
Yeah, I don't get that comparison. I've seen it a few times on Twitter, too.
because of the TR-GB cold war does the undefeated fighter mean anything if the are not fighting the best in their division on the best of their promotion?
If you really wanted to, you could argue that nothing has value anymore in today's state of boxing outside of building yourself up to the PPV level and cashing out. The Cold War hasn't helped much of anything besides put the pressure on each other to turn out exciting cards.
But of course I wish we could return to the times where there was one champion per division, titles still mattered and the best always fought the best. I'm a dreamer and an optimist so I hold out hope we one day get back there.
BC, is it just me or does it seem that Al Haymon signing everyone at GB now? I read he might sign Maidana next, he will have everyone on lock down by the time Floyd retires.
As long as he is willing to pair his own fighters against each other, it doesn't matter to me who he represents. But I agree with your point.
If getting KO'd has had any effect on Manny he sure isn't letting it show in the prefight buildup.
He was VERY confident yesterday when I talked to him and asked about the effects of the KO. He kept going back to the "that's boxing. It happens." It doesn't always happen, however, that violently and this close to the twilight of your career. That's why this fight with Rios is so ultra-intriguing. You really can't confidently predict whether Manny walks through Rios or gets caught a second time.
do you think we missed out on one of the best trilogies with Corrales-Castillo because of Castillo who missed weight on the 2nd fight and potential 3rd fight?
Funny you should bring this up. I was just talking about this the other day. I have this huge gut feeling it would have disappointed.
Continuing the discussion of boxing nicknames, how's Keith 'the Thurman-ator' Thurman?
I can live with that. But keep working on it.
To rebuttal Chase, Mayweather beat all of those fighters first, (with the exception of Cotto, also Oscar and Cotto fights were at 154lbs with NO catchweight!) Plus, Floyd cruised threw JMM, without any controversy. So for everybody who said that Floyd "cherry picks" his opponents would have to say the same thing about Pacquiao. It's usually a double standard with both fighters.
Both have enjoyed their stretches of somewhat soft matchmaking, yes.
Imma let you finish but, this year is becoming stacked with FOY and KO of the Y candidates. Lovin' it.
Thanks for letting me finish. And you're right.
do you think Golden Boy will pit Thurman and Soto-Karass? if so Sign me up!
It's definitely an option for them. I'd personally like to see Thurman get a title shot next. I think he's ready and has continued to impress each step up the ladder. I want to see him matched with the best.
For all the Curtis Stevens lovers out there, I got one name for you: Jessie Brinkley.
He's a fun fighter, there is no question. And he clearly looks reborn. But let's also not forget the competition he has faced has been a bit soft since returning. I think he's a decent test for Golovkin considering that right now GGG doesn't have an obvious opponent in front of him.
Do you think Tommy Z or Ray Edwards could take out Seth Mitchell (with his confidence and stock where they are now) if they fought in the next year or 2?
No, from the eye test I can conclude that Mitchell is clearly on a higher level than those two. Plus, Tommy Z is pretty much a cruiserweight.
Long-time reader, first-time chatter! Heavyweight scene is pretty great right now, huh? All the top guys are fighting each other (Wlad-Povetkin, Vitali-Stiverne, Haye-Fury, Thompson-Pulev) - great for the sport!
Thanks for contributing, Rowan. The HW scene is clearly far from great, considering the amount of legit title hopefuls is few and far between. But at the same time, heavyweight boxing is on a rightful upswing due to the fact that there's a pool of evenly matched and exciting names and personalities below the level of the Klitschko brothers. That's a LOT better than things were about five years ago.
Fighters who endure brutal knockouts don't ever seem to get it back. What about Pacquiao? If he doesn't get it back, his career is over.
That's essentially the reason why this Rios fight is so interesting.
Brian, sometimes when we touch, the honesty's too much and I have to close my eyes and hide. I wanna hold you til I die, till we both break down and cry.
That guy is quite the crooner.
Hey Brian, now that David Price has been set back a bit, do you have a new prospect you're getting behind?
That's a great question. How about Luke Campbell? He's got a strong name.
Any reason why BJ Flores was working ringside on NBCN?
Yeah, that's his job.
To build on Joe's point, I know common opponents don't always matter, but Brinkley did beat Stevens, and then Brinkley got CRUSHED by Quillin. Don't know if Curtis needs Chocolate right now.
Yeah, but Carlos Quintana beat Paul Williams and Paul Williams beat Sergio Martinez. And Larry Holmes once beat Butterbean. True story.
In response to Joe(san fran) and also want to gather your thoughts BC, but if GGG wasn't trying to build his brand by fighting so often we wouldn't even be discussing Curtis Stevens, GGG would have fought twice and we would be looking to match him against Sergio, Ward, Chaves Jr or Murray next year?
Right, Stevens would represent a solid stay-busy fight for Golovkin considering there isn't a big name available at the moment. You have to respect Curtis' power and he's also a potentially marketable opponent with the fight slated for NYC and due to Stevens' style.
Stevens did look impressive Saturday but that wasn't middleweight... Let's see how good he does against a guy from his own division before he gets a big shot on HBO. (like they did with Russel Jr.?)
Well, it kind of comes down to this: Who else would you match GGG with? A lot of the names people have talked about are tied up or disinterested for the moment.
How much are you looking forward to the Mitchell-Arreola fight on Sept 6th
On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being Byrd-Williamson and 10 being Gatti-Ward, I would say a solid 6.
For all the Full House lovers out there, I got one name for you: Jesse Katsopolis.
You know I can't resist posting crap like this.
It seems that most fans blame friction between Pac and Mayweather as to why that fight hasn't occured yet, but isn't the biggest issue the fact that Floyd hate Bob Arum and would be loathe to make him anymore money. Until Pac is a free agent I don't think we'll ever see those two fight. Thoughts?
Yeah, that's the issue right there. I always find it funny how people don't realize this fact and still complain about it not happening this year.
Branimal my friend jus bet me $600 that mayweather ko's canelo within 6rds. What u think? Easy $ for me?
No chance that happen within six or possibly at all.
Chuy (Detroit, MI) Mayweather cruised through JMM with no controversy? Really man? Blowing weight by 3lb is no controversy?
Speaking of crooner...how 'bout Khan/Thurman? Oh...you said crooner, not coroner...
I'm from Wales, so I'm biased! BUT! Nathan Cleverly vs Kovalev. Calling it now: Fight of the Year. Clev to spring a surprise a la Froch with Bute, I reckon! Looking forward to the fight?
It will be a fun fight. Kovalev will break him.
This is for you Pacman: "How happy you made me, oh Manny/Well you came and you gave without taking/And I sent you away, oh Manny/And you kissed me and stopped me from shaking/And I need you today, oh Manny"
It just got too weird.
Are you ready for Creed the next Rocky movie?
Yes I am. The last Rocky installment wasn't amazing, but was better than I thought it would be. I am optimistic that this will have some redeeming qualities in the end.
BRIAN WHAT UP!!! I HAVE AN EXCUSE TO YELL, MY MAYWEATHER TICKETS CAME IN YESTERDAY!!!
This guy Gus. Always shouting.
if you were a boxer what would be your walkout song?
"Mean Street" by Van Halen.
Pacquio and Mayweather will fight someday. Alot of money to be made. Sadly for us fight fans it be long after the fight means anything. Like Hopkins vs Jones II
You predicting that Floyd goes for 50-0 against the PacMan or that it happens after they both have a few losses?
Wasn't it Jesse Cochran in some of the early episodes?
First season, yes. I was going to say that early but feared it would out me as the FH nerd I already am deep inside. Thank you for beating me to it.
will we ever see a fighter who has a louder fan base than ricky hatton?
Never. I mean, seriously, there's only one, right?
Favorite ring walk ever?
In terms of a song, you can't argue with Micky Ward and Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again." As far as actual ring walks, I always thought it was pretty cool when Fernando Vargas kicked through that fake brick wall before the Felix Trinidad fight with the fire in the background and those weird Mexican warriors staring him down. Obviously no one can touch Hamed, though. Let's be honest.
Brian, in your opinion, who has faced the tougher competition overall, Pacman or Floyd?
In terms of fighting people closer to their absolute primes, I say Pacquiao.
Favorite ring walk: Tyson v. Spinks
Great point Chris! But despite the weight, he won easily. The difference between the two fighters is that Pac seems to be declining with age and May seems to look sharper with age. #HardWork #Dedication
Any word on when Ortiz is planning to be back in action? What's your opinion of a logical path forward for him, assuming he actually want to be a boxer?
Well, it would depend on whether he really, really wanted to still do this for a living. Obviously he is so unpredictable he could take a loss at any point. If I were matching him, I'd get him into winnable, yet very marketable rematches with Berto and Maidana (or maybe even Lopez if you wanted to do that first.) If he comes out of there unscathed, he could likely get himself right back into the Mayweather sweepstakes.
We need more Rocky spin-offs! I want to know about the Alpaca farm Dragof and his wife retired to.
That would rule if they could devote an entire movie to that plot. Same thing with Clubber Lang's future at a gas station.
Sharif Bogere's lion was pretty badass too.
Worst Ring Walk ever.......My vote is for Wlad Klitschko coming out to Tina Turner's "Simply the Best"
Hahahaha. That was outrageously lame. Totally forgot that ever happened.
Brian no mention of Corona Bottles displaying boxers on the label???
Is this true?
With all the great fights we've seen so far this year, do you believe the best FOTY is yet to come?
I do. And that's RIDICULOUS to try to say after the three or four top contenders we have already had (and all of them could have won any other year.)
Pacquiao coming out to "You're the best" was pretty Epic, pumpin those little fists!
For how awful that Mosley fight was, the whole pomp and circumstance during the buildup and opening was pretty awesome. Same thing in Klitschko-Haye, actually. Ironic, eh? Don't you think?
Does the Bronze Bomber stop Liakovich Friday?
Yes he does. And the hype machine begins.
Mayweather once stated he could have the President walk his belts to the ring, you believe him BC?
The president of the WBC? Yes. No question about it.
Soon after vitali retires, wlad will hold every major belt. Will that be enough for people to start recognizing him as 1 of the best heavyweights ever?
He has the talent and obviously the high volume of title defenses and knockouts where you simply can't say he is not one of the best of all-time. But I do think some people need to slow their roll a bit because the overrating of Wlad is picking up speed quickly. I know it's not his fault, but the guy simply hasn't fought anyone. That makes it hard to spit out all of these stats in his favor. And I'm far from a hater. In fact, before becoming a writer, I've probably cheered as hard for Wlad as I have Leonard or Oscar before him. But people are going overboard a bit.
Hamed's ring walk to Thriller was one of the most pompous (yet greatest) ones i've ever seen.
Everything Hamed touched was gold. Outrageously arrogant and often tacky gold. But gold, nonetheless. I miss those days.
Have I been unknowingly banned? Several legitimate questions/comments without an answer in favor for the same old, played-out Mayweather/Pacquaio song and dance makes me think perhaps.
Sorry, anyone who mentions Full House in their question gets first dibs today.
Tough to be considered one of the best ever when, at no point in your career, did anyone think that you were better than your brother.
Outrageously lame is an understatement. It'd have been more forgivable if he came out sporting Tina Turner's nylons
Now that's funny.
i have a ticket for canelo vs mayweather...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not for long you won't. Get him!!!!
What's up B! Enjoy reading your stuff! Here's my question to you do you think Thurman gets a fight with Alexander assuming the Khan fight falls threw and assuming that Broner elects not to fight him? You said it yourself, Thurman deserves a title shot.
He does deserve a title shot. It's hard to really predict who he gets, however, because Golden Boy is so stocked in and around welterweight right now. They have so many options.
Worst ring walk ever has to be Adrien Broner rapping.... I don't think it is even debatable.
Worst ring walk, Adrien Broner rapping.....
50 Cent wasn't so great in his performance, either.
Chuy (Detroit, MI) it's not just age, it's fights. Floyd just won his 44th fight. After his 44thh fight, Pacquiao beat JMM (twice), Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, ODH, Morales (twice), Mosely and Barerra.
Things are really heating up in this Chris-Chuy side debate.
after the canelo fight who is in the lead in the race for mayweather?
I could see Khan if he beats Alexander.
So Full House gets a nod - what about Zach Morris and the gang from Saved by the Bell? I can tell you are a big Franklin and Bash fan, BC.
No F&B for the BC, but plenty of STB. In fact, we could do a separate chat on that. Daily.
I honestly believe Floyd retired cuz he knew Oscar was the only that can beat him
Stop being honest with yourself.
Sweet Alanis Morissette reference, you're a man with many talents..
Not many of these talents are marketable, however.
Pac's ringwalk to Eye of the Tiger in Dallas was pretty awesome.
Its true about Corona Bottles. Displaying Hopkins, Danny Garcia, Cotto, Morales
That's pretty awesome. I need to get myself some of that.
I rewatched the May/DLH fight the other night, and I will be honest I had Oscar winning a sd at worst a draw. How did you score it? It's a shame we never saw a rematch...
You really can't be serious, right? That's an 8-4 fight for Floyd in terms of rounds. A rematch would have been a blatant and ridiculous money grab and I'm so glad it never happened.
Do you think Khan beats Alexander?
Not sure. That's a pretty interesting fight to me.
I think Lou Savarise came out to "Stayin alive" when he fought Foreman. Cant find a video on Youtube to confirm that though
Haha. That's awesomely lame. I love it.
I'll be disappointed if it's Khan. The guy is offensively gung-ho but, let's face it, there are people more deserving of a shot. Khan has no chance against Floyd. We want to see Floyd tested in his final run of fights, not just a few more easy knockouts to add to the highlight reel.
In terms of realistic opponents (and considering it's mostly likely not going to be Broner as of yet), who would you most want to see Floyd face next?
"Not many of these talents are marketable" So in other words, you have also had more than one ex girlfriend say you are full of useless information?
And a wife. Yes.
Off to start a college fund for my daughter. Peace.
Be sure to come back next week. Same time and place.
The proposed GGG-Stevens fight is kind of like an old school Tyson fight against the likes of Pinklon Thomas or Trevor Berbick; even though Stevens likely gets starched it will fun to watch. And heck, it's not completely out of the questions Stevens pulls off an upset.
I think GGG handles him without too much issue. But I am definitely down for seeing Golovkin in against a guy who can really bang like Stevens can. We know Gennady has never been down in basically 400 combined pro and amateur fights. But he also claims not to ever have been hurt or even buzzed in any fight. That obviously speaks to having a great chin, but one of these days someone, in some fight, is going to catch him perfectly and hurt him. I want to see how he reacts.
This chat is more exciting than the May/DLH sparring session.
Hey, thanks Stephen. That was also my wedding night. So, um, wait a second ... what are you saying?
"And a wife. Yes." Huge LOL that caused several colleagues to look up and wonder what I'm doing.
Well, AC Slater has worked a few boxing shows, so SBTB is somewhat relevant to the chat. Crazy that he (and most of the cast) looks practically the same (minus the mullet) while Lisa Turtle sadly looks like a scary version of Lil Kim.
Yeah, what happened to her? Crazy, right? Even that dirtbag Jeff from USC who stole Kelly from Zack still looks young.
I always liked whenever Vitali Klitschko came out to Hells Bells #BeastMode
Agreed. Wlad's consistent use of "Can't Stop" by RHCP ain't bad, either.
I know this likely never happens, but if GGG goes to 168, and Kovalev could make 168 without killing himself like Dawson did...OMG!!!
Lock your doors!!!!!!
Hey Brian - thanks for making my Tuesday evenings (UK) at work more enjoyable! I think promoters/networks are missing a trick in helping build-up fights. All previous fights from fighters should be up on Youtube in HD, easily accessible to fight fans as well as casuals. You can often find the fights but not always (and certainly not always in high quality). It seems a commercial no-brainer as the fight footage must have been milked dry for all of its cash. Just a thought, anyway!
Well said my man. And thanks for taking part in the chats. I totally agree and believe promoters are doing themselves a GIGANTIC disservice by not allowing older fighters to readily become available like that. It's not like they are withholding them so they can sell them on DVD, either. One part about what has made the UFC so successful is their constant programming on cable of those "UFC Unleashed" shows that basically fill you in on the fights that made each fighter who they are today. It's advertising at its finest. Boxing fans would eat stuff like that up. And if you made DVD collections, I'm sure they'd sell to the right markets, as well.
Hey Brian how are you. People always refer to the whole Gbp/sho and top rank/hbo, but from what I understand, show time only has Floyd and khan under contract, while hbo has guys like manny, sergio, Chavez jr etc. couldn't ggg go fight kid chocolate on show time?
Guys like GGG and Sergio Martinez, who are not with one of the two major promoters, are both under contract with HBO. So you won't be seeing them on Showtime. Bummer.
Top 5 Mexican fighters ever JCC, Sanchez, Marquez, Barrera, Morales. So I don't no why my friend Alduvin keeps saying canelo is
Yeah, this guy Alduvin needs to wake up and smell the coffee, brah.
GGG has never been down. I think that makes him much more dangerous than most people realize. guys like Khan that can punch like hell but lack the beard are different from guys you can't hurt, and punch like hell.
Im going to propose to my gf, like Rocky did in Rocky II @ the zoo, Hey what you doin for the next 40 or 50 years?
Q: Do you think Khan beats Alexander? A: As long as he doesn't get punched.
Hi BC, I disagree that Pac has fought more prime opponents that Floyd. Floyd has Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, JL Castillo, Zab Judah, and Ricky Hatton. Pac has Chatchai Sasakul, Barrera, Marquez, Morales, and maybe Cotto. Both fought Mosley and ODLH past their primes. Cotto was past him prime for Floyd, Hatton was at the end versus Pac. Its a wash in my eyes, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
I'm not saying it's Pac by a landslide, I just favor his overall competition mixed with greater penchant at reaching for the stars and daring to be great.
I'm so excited! I'm so excited! I'm so....scared!!
I basically tweeted the exact same sentiments to Mario Lopez this morning and got nothing back in return. Huge bummer.
Do you think Naz belongs in the Hall of Fame? With Gatti in, it's hard to say Hamed isn't worthy
Yeah, let him in. I love that guy.
I have to say, I usually get a fair number of hilariously inappropriate comments each week but today absolutely takes the cake. Nice work, hahaha.
My wife let me move our wedding date back a week so I could go to a Pacqiuo fight as my bacholer party! #Keeper
How do we actually know GGG has a great chin? Nobody has really connected flush yet... Rosado has been the first guy to actually touch him up a bit.
That's essentially why I kind of like this proposed Stevens fight.
Correction Chris, after 44 fights Manny was 39-3-2, with a loss to Morrales and draw with Marquez.. May had fought better fighters at that point with a perfect record..
You guys should really exchange numbers. I can make this happen.
going back to ringwalks, none of them hold a candle to the all time greatest ringwalker, Jorge "Maromero" Paez. Hamed's ringwalk couldnt hold Maromero's jockstrap! (unless that was part of his entrance)
Haha. That last sentence had me spit out my water on the keyboard. Nice one.
Even though I respect the Klitschkos, I can't wait until they retire just to see the chaos that happens in the HW division, imagine all of the possible fights for the titles we can see
It would be fun, as much as I do enjoy me some Klitschko.
What about Ricky Hatton and his Blue Moon? You are slipping Brian!!!
If Canelo brings the Cinnamon on 9/14, does he walk away with the whole spice rack?
Ouch. You need to regroup after that one. Could be a sign this chat is ready to be Old Yeller'ed.
Uncle Drew: What kind of Cologne do you think Amir Khan uses?
Yup, we are getting closer to that time ...
You ever go undercover on Dan's Chats ?
Not undercover, no. But I'm definitely a regular and avid reader of them. Plenty of great nuggets each week. No one is more connected into the pulse of the sport than DTM.
Branimal what do you think about MLB players constantly using steroids/peds. Baseball is dirtier than nfl & boxing combined. But not as bad as cycling
Um, yeah. Boxing is pretty darn dirty, dude. We got a big problem here.
Hey and Let's not forget Slater beat a Prime Marvin Nedik in the City Championships.
A truly epic victory.
What are the chances Martirosyan v Andrade is a total snoozefest?
I would say very decent.
Don't forget PAC also destroyed Lehlo Ledwaba on two weeks notice when lehlo was considered tops at 122
That did happen, yes.
All I'm saying is Manny faced better opposition and asserting that Floyd "aged" better is foolish because number and quality of fights matters more. If they fought in their prime, I still pick Floyd by narrow decision.
Looks like Chris gets the last word in this one.
Hey BC, I think Floyd has dared to be great, just like Pac - the problem is his style is lacking in the excitement department.
Nah, I'm not sure you can really compare the two in the whole "dare to be great" department. Although many props to Floyd for taking this fight with Canelo. That definitely helps.
I was always afraid that Kimi Gibbler was a bad influence on the Olson's, and now look what happened.
Simply an amazing post out of you.
At first I din't have very high hopes for you but i'm warming up to you Brian.
It's got to be my SBTB game. Nobody touches me there. But thanks for the kind words.
Alright folks, that will do it. Another hugely entertaining chat. Thanks so much for taking part. It's the highlight of my week.
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